Flameboard Topic Creator Locking

And my points are as follows:
1) That is not the reason it was locked.
2) A thread should never be locked because of the contents of posts within. A thread should be locked solely based on the intended contents.

I have no control over what you post in a thread I make. Therefore, there is no valid reason why someone else's posts should be a contributing factor to whether or not my thread gets locked. Ever. The punishment is suitable for them, not the OP (in most cases).

That aside, flameboard posts should not be locked unless resolved or pointlessly necroed. Since again, that was not the case, I disagree entirely with that lock.

that could be why the Mods/admins took away the edit button from the flameboard. That way if someone posts something stupid, it will always be there. I.E. Caturday. LOL.

But that was a nice change, so if someone says something bad. It will always be there to haunt them.

But honestly you cant say you know why BBT "Locked" it other than my post prior to his request to lock it. I wanted it locked because of dumbass racist posts, as i have said 20 times already. As many have seen in previous threads i dont like racism. So you cant say that isn't the reason why i wanted it locked. BBT could have wanted the locking for the same reason, he didnt specify a reason for the locking on his side. Nor will he for another 29 days lol.
 
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that could be why the Mods/admins took away the edit button from the flameboard. That way if someone posts something stupid, it will always be there. I.E. Caturday. LOL.

But that was a nice change, so if someone says something bad. It will always be there to haunt them.
That's exactly the point actually, and that's why the original flameboard didn't have one. It was ALWAYS a nice touch, Reeve just got lazy and didn't re-implement it.
 
From thread: http://www.qcdn.org/ffxi/showthread.php?t=45407&page=8

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I still have no idea how you two can defend this asshole after he pulls shit like this.
 
Deleting this due to lack of reading the thread prior Sorry.
 
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not to sound like a hypocrite, however Rannoch probably deserved it.

No, no one deserves that.

But Kage, i wont stand for racism lol, i dont care what the guy has done. Because it affects a giant portion of population, you know?

If you wont, thats fine. For future reference: report the post, and we'll handle it from there. That thread will remain locked and before anyone questions it, the 30 (now 29) day ban on BBT will remain intact.

I don't know what the issue is anymore, everything was handled already.
 
not to sound like a hypocrite, however Rannoch probably deserved it.

You're joking, right? Please for the love of god tell me you are joking. So your mentality is: "Killing people is totally cool, but racism? That's taking it too far, man."
 
You're joking, right? Please for the love of god tell me you are joking. So your mentality is: "Killing people is totally cool, but racism? That's taking it too far, man."

i did not read the message, i assumed "it was in the UserCP it must be a stupid rate down SS again." Sorry, there wasn't a quote from you Kage other than he can say this but etc etc. Didnt really pay attention to what the User CP said. Anyways, if that address was in fact real, i seriously think BBT deserves the 29 day temp ban. And thanks for taking care of the thread mods, GJ :)
 
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I still have no idea how you two can defend this asshole after he pulls shit like this.

I'm not defending him or his actions past or present. I've said previously that I don't even know BBT, I've only seen posts from/about him on QCDN from time to time. I don't troll threads looking for people nor am I privy to private messages exchanged between people. I'm talking about the fact that he had a point in his post, though terribly expressed, and was met with racist remarks and one-liner pic-posting stupidity. You want to bring up past threads/posts/apparent sock-puppets and feel he should walk around with a scarlet letter on his chest for all eternity for it, that's your business. I don't know his whole sordid history on QCDN and I don't want to know. It's not my place or yours to martyr or villify him for it. I'm talking this issue, this particular locked thread.

And since as Eleibfrid said, the issue was handled, it's all kind of a moot point anyway. I just don't think people should be throwing around that particular thread as a poster child for threads that should not be locked. It's a ridiculous example, and that's the last I'll say on the matter.
 
From thread: http://www.qcdn.org/ffxi/showthread.php?t=45407&page=8

I still have no idea how you two can defend this asshole after he pulls shit like this.

I asked Ele a question about if someone can be banned about this, he said yes. But? Does he? No. I asked Neo,Cmd,Ele. Which all ended up stop replying to the PM's about it. Ele said he would take it up with the mods. But Neo said it never came up. Hm..
 
For those of you used to this kinda crap lemme just sum this post up as:

/wet-blanket on
(expletives)
rawr
stop being a bunch of chodes
/minor something worth pausing for thought about
/wet-blanket off

The end.



Now that that's over;

IMO rules fucked the FB.

I'm all for harkening back to the Cubs days of a gentle janitorial service and the random lock/delete of wholly unacceptable material.

It's the flameboard. Fuck you if you don't like what's posted there, don't read it or respond in kind about how you don't like said post. No one should be bound, in the confines of the flameboard, by someone else's likes or dislikes. If something gives you pause to bitch... then bitch. That's what it's for, damnit.

It's not a place for thin-skinned pansies, if you get offended or your blood pressure goes up over a post on a message board on the internet you belong in this group of people who should know better than to click the goddamn link allowing you in.

It's becoming more and more annoying seeing people scream 'i'm offended' over there. Welcome to the fuckin club, we've got jackets. That's why it's a flameboard. The idea is to be offensive. We tried the approach of civility and conflict resolution, remember? It failed miserably and allowed FB content to spill over to EVERY other section of the boards. You can't very well have the kind of discourse the FB stands for if you've got a bunch of hippies running around screaming 'zomg racism/sexism/etc-ism'. People say crap in the heat of the moment, in years past this is why there was no edit button. It's called accountability. Think before you type or be labeled a moron and work that shit out on your own time.

Also the edit button should go (even though i use it heavily to add here and there to fix stuff) and a request for lock on a thread contained in the FB should not only be denied it should be posted simply to show that the poster didn't have the balls to be there in the first place.

But that's just me..

Also that threatening/harrassment shit via PM and/or rating system needs to be cut the fuck out. Alot of you need to stop taking yourselves and what gets said around here so goddamn seriously.

As far as BBT goes he deserved every bit of the treatment he recieved. Fuck, i tried to be nice to the guy and even toss him a bit of a compliment in the form of credit for actually contributing to the board in other areas... All i got for the effort was nice rate-down and more of his jibbering bullshit because he couldn't handle the negative attention he drew to himself (from other people, as i wasen't included for the most part) for no reason in particular. It's called karma and yes, it's a bitch.

Edit: On the note of the actual rules i like how the console geeks/religious nuts/military/political crowds as well as many others can flame each other rampantly in their own little corners of the board or topics outside the FB without reprisal but the rest of us who wish to opine offensively about RL/generalized BS/or topics in relation to other games QCDN *has* created room for can go sit and spin or face disciplinary action because no arrangements have been made for offensive material that is not XI-related but still manages to proliferate, that's a nice touch.. really. Either it's a place to blow steam about whatever the entirety of the board covers or it's just for crybaby bullshit from XI. Way to water down the bread-winner section. For better or worse it's the most read and generates the most new users to the board, limiting it to 'in game only' stuff has never worked and will never work as it's never been fully enforced and i'm doubtful it ever will be.

Either way QCDN has been expanded past it's XI-ONRY days for quite some time now, get your heads out of the sand and just live with it. Either that or go about making seperate FBs for each section so i don't have to keep reporting the same offenders over and over again. You guys (should) have more important crap to worry about than who's rage-dumping about what on the FB anyway. :P
 
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FB rules 1, 3, and 4 are fine. And rule 2 should be expanded to "In game AND fourm issues."

Also, i'm all for locking when the topic is resolved by the parties involved, although it should just die off on its own anyways. But before you post anything you better be ready to deal with it should it backfire.
 
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I asked Ele a question about if someone can be banned about this, he said yes. But? Does he? No. I asked Neo,Cmd,Ele. Which all ended up stop replying to the PM's about it.
You did what now? My PM's, dating back to (reliably) May 18th, show nothing received from you.

I don't recall receiving such but there's a chance I deleted it during one of my cleanups. I ask you to check your sents and if you did send it to me, send it again please.
 
i see where some of the public is on this issue. Pesmerga rated me down for saying that making fun of death/racism/injury is wrong... Idiots like this make me want to puke.
 
i see where some of the public is on this issue. Pesmerga rated me down for saying that making fun of death/racism/injury is wrong... Idiots like this make me want to puke.

Proof positive a sense of humor is rare/ex.

Camp moar.
 
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