For all the Dark Knights out there...

[alanon]

We hold our own... I just don't think you know enough Dragoons =P

A pimped Drg can usually outdamage a pimped Drk.

 

[Zylia]

Drks and their Guillotine... -_- I don't know how I made it through Onzozo.............

DRK: "Vorp dnt do nuff, I want use Guillotine plz"
Me: I can't skillchain with Guillotine... -_-;
DRK: o well I use Guillotine ne way
BLM: >_<
Party: Just kill it somehow >.<

This happened in more than one party...

<3 that comic

 

[Meximan]

Umm thats why u level up Gsd so when you get to Onzozo u can use SATA+Sickle Moon to make distortion. I was doing 700-1k when I was there at 60-63~

 

[etchdog2000]

Why would any self respecting DRK exp with a THF post 60? I avoided THF in exp like the plague after 60. A DRK would be better off joining another party as well as the THF. GS ws's tend to suck w/o SA. As a DRK 60-65 I would much rather join a different party and /WAR and whip out Guillotines. My 2 favorite SC's through those lvls was Guillotine > Raging Rush or Guillotine >> Sidewinder/Slug Shot.

 

[Meximan]

Why would any self respecting DRK exp with a THF post 60? I avoided THF in exp like the plague after 60. A DRK would be better off joining another party as well as the THF. GS ws's tend to suck w/o SA. As a DRK 60-65 I would much rather join a different party and /WAR and whip out Guillotines. My 2 favorite SC's through those lvls was Guillotine > Raging Rush or Guillotine >> Sidewinder/Slug Shot.

Its because post 60 thf has Assassin and you can sata turn the mob or not the thf can still TA+DE off the tank. and ya I did go /war all the time and out DD'd a rng while I was there <3 Guillotine > Sidewinder SC.

What I am really saying is that drk doesnt have a reason to complain about WS's as long as you have your stuff together you can do good SC's all the time post 60 just gotta be flexible with different weapons. but then again I do agree all Gsd WS's suck untill 200 skill and you get Sickle Moon which is one of the better ones with /thf untill Spinning Slash/Ground Strike.

 

[Pseulen]

Being a SAM should be a pre-req for being a DRK. . . then not being a tard should be a pre-req for being a SAM. Learn your WS & SC's elementals and how they affect mob types and enhance spells in turn affecting mob types. . . shame on so many lazy SAMs.

 

[Lanien]

Penta Thrust and Guillatine don't even compare as far as skillchain usefulness goes.

Penta Thrust can be part of Detonation, Transfixation, Compression, or Gravitation. Those all suck. You can burst wind/light/earth/dark on those. Shitty bursts, not worth doin a SC with anyway.

Guillitine can be a part of Impaction, Compression, Induration and Fragmentation.

Fragmentation is a great Skillchain. Granted, Guillitine can't end it, but Sidewinder/slugshot/raging crash(?)/Tachi: Koki can.

Guillitine > Sidewinder does loads of damage and allows for Thunder MB.

Tachi: Jinpu > Penta Thrust makes for decent damage so does Sidewinder > Penta Thrust, but Bursting Earth/Dark sucks.

I'm glad spells don't have so many damn modifiers.

As near as I can tell, here is the Damage Calculation for Penta Thrust from lvl 40-60:

{(Base Damage of your Weapon)+(your STR-Targets VIT)+[(your STR*0.2)+(your Dex*0.2)]*0.94}

Then you multiply all that by your TP modifier. Your TP mod with Penta Thrust is 100%=0.75 200%=1.00 300%=2.25

therefore, at 300% tp, it would be

{(Base Damage of your Weapon)+(your STR-Targets VIT)+[(your STR*0.2)+(your Dex*0.2)]*0.94} * 2.25= Damage of 1 hit from a penta Thrust. If all 5 thrusts hit.... somethin is hurtin.

Some of those numbers probably cap out, such as (your STR-Targets VIT)

All those numbers make Penta Thrust a Damn good WS, but it still sucks with Skillchains.

Oh, I spent so long trying to get the numbers Right, I forgot where I was going with this, and what my point was. It's a good equation tho, so I'll just post it. If I feel like it, later I'll post the equation for Guillitine. Ya know, seeing as how this is a thread about Drk and all.

I think it is easier to just say Penta Thrust = Solo WS lol It sucks for SC and shouldn't be used. Even after getting Penta Thrust, I still Double thrusted most of the time

 

[Chasym]

Why would any self respecting DRK exp with a THF post 60? I avoided THF in exp like the plague after 60. A DRK would be better off joining another party as well as the THF. GS ws's tend to suck w/o SA. As a DRK 60-65 I would much rather join a different party and /WAR and whip out Guillotines. My 2 favorite SC's through those lvls was Guillotine > Raging Rush or Guillotine >> Sidewinder/Slug Shot.

True. but when your someone who dont know tons of people...as i was. I would seek a party 10+ hours a day nearly. You take what you get. and i never complained if there was a thf. cause i knew my job well enough to pull off equal dmg well enough with either sub.

 

[Messiah]

Hey I am going for dark knight ^_^ I have thf and war leveled (I leveled them before to be ready to start with drg and drk). Can any drks out there give me some tips to play this job? Many things I'll learn while playing the job, but it would be nice to give some starting tips ^^ Thanks in advance.

 

[Bellatrix]

OK some quick advice, make sure you have GS leveled post 55 or so but at the very latest 60. SCing with a thf is great up until 66 when the thf and drk can't do light. Also I would suggest subbing war until you get spinning slash because if you get to use guillotine in a party, a berserked guillotine is better than SATA guillotine, plus you get double attack which is the best trait for a drk . Also once you get post 71 and you can party with a thf that has evisceration, don't be afraid to use cross reaper and be the voker for SATA evisceration. Tes dark kinda sux you can still MB blizzard and exp./hr is always better than blasting off a 1200 spinning slash with no one else there. Sorry it is long, but hope it helps a bit.

Oh yeah forgot about souleater. Many drks vary on this but I find it only useful on a chain 4 or 5 and adding it to guillotine and then getting covered by a pld. Other than that use it sparingly, such as when the mob has less than 50% or if the party is in trouble and you can kill it without dying.

 

[Lanien]

I have a better recommendations for DRK. Go DRG instead

 

[Elemmire]

I have a better recommendations for DRK. Go DRG instead

Lanien ftw

 

[Tyrath]

I have a better recommendations for DRK. Go DRG instead

Note: Going DRG involves becoming a DRK's Light bitch at the higher levels

 

[Elemmire]

Note: Going DRG involves becoming a DRK's Light bitch at the higher levels

note: DRG is everyone's light bitch higher levels

 

[persephone]

LOL yeah...thats true. Well, I guess spamming his WS is much better than doing a SC.

Identity theft!!!

Not only my name but my job as well...

Unoriginal, yes. But at least mine's spelled correctly.

I'm only kidding of course, Pers 4tw!

 

[Meximan]

Alittle more for a tip try to set your timers up with the chain#'s and your good to go I useally use nothing for the first mob its a warm up, chain1 use Last Resort, chain2 Souleater, chain3 nothing, chain4 Last Resort, and end the chain with Souleater I go by that when I am SCing mostly buff then WS.
And Bellatrix is right post 60 Gsd is a must to have capped if you want to make yourself flexable is pts, and never over do it like I do sometimes >.>;;; unless your love haveing lots of fun.

 

[Bajaratt]

Alittle more for a tip try to set your timers up with the chain#'s and your good to go I useally use nothing for the first mob its a warm up, chain1 use Last Resort, chain2 Souleater, chain3 nothing, chain4 Last Resort, and end the chain with Souleater I go by that when I am SCing mostly buff then WS.
And Bellatrix is right post 60 Gsd is a must to have capped if you want to make yourself flexable is pts, and never over do it like I do sometimes >.>;;; unless your love haveing lots of fun.

Or you love killing yourself with one weaponskill.

 

[Meximan]

heh I always go out in a boom but no one ever complains about the dmg.

 

[tonicfly]

Im just starting out with DRK just lvl 25, i make sure to remain flexible. i keep Scythe, Gsword, and Gaxe capped. I also have no problem with using a weeker WS to SC. One thing i haven't experienced yet is the wait that most DRK's face for parties. since lvl 15 as soon as i bring out my DRK within about 20 minutes i have the same people asking if i need a party. Ive also been in parties with other DRK's that will only use Scythe and insist that they finish up a SC with Shadow of Death. these are parties pre 33 mind you. but ive seen DRK joke about how funny it is that the pld keeps dieing but if they die they HP and disband saying WTF im not supposed to die. hell ill voke off the PLD especially with chains because the PLD has a better chance of keeping the party alive long enough to zone. whats the point of 4+ people getting pwn'd when only 1 has to die. well ill end my rant for now. the last i have to say is that i there are good DRK's out there so keep looking youll find us eventually

 

[Priest]

at higher lvl ninja is a good sub to have Drk Rampage pwnz j00! I laugh how ppl play with shitty drk and think most are shitty <.< I was one of the first but one of the last to hit 75 ; ; and Mex its nice to know other drks used SM too I thought it was an awsome ws. My only advice is play smart and do what the party asks even if Vorpal sucks ass! I have to admit tho when I was lvling war i remeber playing with some crappy as drk... dam hate them they make me look bad >.>