Friendly Rant

Thnikkaman

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(Note: Just a friendly rant. If you disagree with what I say, that's your opinion.)
Anyway, onto ranting. First and foremost, I'm sick of seeing how you guys all hate Colbwa. I partied with him, he's a great THF, and he respected me, so please just leave the guy alone.

Another thing, is about how you guys hate RDM melee. Well, I for one, am a Taru White Mage, and I engaged battle up until I hit 51 and got my Light and Dark Staves. And you know what's really awesome? Is every Ninja and Thief I partied with up until then, did way less damage than me.
"Thief uses Sneak Attack."
"Thief uses Viper Bite."
"Spider takes 50 points of damage."
"Thnikkaman uses Seraph Strike."
"Spider takes 75 points of damage."... Most people tell me that those were just really crappy NIN and THFs, though. That's believable, but I rest my case.

Speaking of Ninja, what is with people subbing that all the time? It's a decent subjob, but it shouldn't be a mandatory subjob for every little job, especially later on. Dual Wield doesn't give you double TP, people. Your weapon intervals are highly increased. Even if it's not double interval, if you subbed Warrior, you would have double attack sometimes anyway, so it's better, and a lot cheaper. The only two jobs that I think should sub NIN for is Ranger and BLM. I know you're all thinking "BLM/NIN sucks", but if you think about it, extra INT from Dual Wield, shadows for incase you overnuke, mob debuffs to certain spells. The list goes on.


And the level 60 noobs. You know? When you see a Samurai asking how to make a weapon skill macro at level 60 or higher, that really makes you think. People sell their characters at level 60, because other people did and that pissed them off. And just because you're level 75 in two or three jobs doesn't make you good. Stop thinking you're better. I'm not 75 yet because I spend more than half my time helping others.

The whole "RDM is better than WHM in xp parties" is ridiculous. Red Mages have like no spells beneficial enough to be good. No Curaga, no Protectra, no Shellra, no higher level Raise. I mean, Fast Cast and Refresh rock, no doubt, but it's just not worth it. Or Summoners used as main healers. Let the SMN do their job, don't make them heal just because they have 2x the MP as a normal healer.

Final rant piece... WHM's, stop eating pies and stuff. Stick to cookies for downtime or something. And always remember MND is the most useless attribute in the game, MP is your friend. If ever possible, get an Astral or something of that family.

Anyway, all's fun here. I expect a lot of criticism on this rant, so by all means, hate it. Tell me what you think is wrong. If you agree, great!

~Thnikkaman
 
Raise II and III isn't a necessity to partying. :?

Hell, Raise I isn't either.
 
i'm a 52 nin, lets go parse our damage right now, anyone with a parser up for this?

this guy is dumber than melee rdm's, at least they thier melee attacks suck.
 
I thought I'd get a bit of response from the whole WHM dealing more than THF business. That was a long time ago, though. My Club Skill sucks now, and my weapon was awesome. :(
 
Thnikkaman said:
I thought I'd get a bit of response from the whole WHM dealing more than THF business. That was a long time ago, though. My Club Skill sucks now, and my weapon was awesome. :(

you are full of shit, i'm not even disagreeing with you, im just flat out telling you you are full of shit for thinking your melee damage could beat that of a thf or nin, or any melee class for that matter.

one of my elemental spells wipes out your seraph strike, and each melee attack does around 25. my WS does about 50-200 depending if berserk is up.

there is no way in hell you can tell me you out dd me.

btw, if you have access to 50 cap areas, we can go there and test it.

lets do it, i want to see wonder whm.
 
just had a in game convo with wonder whm

scrub: look buddy, i told you i can't do damage like that anymore.
me: lets go to lvl cap area
scrub: just because i outdamaged a NIN once, doesn't mean you have to all out on it, you know?
me oh, you wrote ever nin and thf you partied until 51 you kicked thier ass in damage
me: maybe you should go edit that lol
scrub Did I? If I did, I lied. What I meant was one or two parties.
Me: i still doubt that, but w/e
scrub: lol, I was using Maul.

let the back peddeling begin
 
meeze said:
just had a in game convo with wonder whm

scrub: look buddy, i told you i can't do damage like that anymore.
me: lets go to lvl cap area
scrub: just because i outdamaged a NIN once, doesn't mean you have to all out on it, you know?
me oh, you wrote ever nin and thf you partied until 51 you kicked thier ass in damage
me: maybe you should go edit that lol
scrub Did I? If I did, I lied. What I meant was one or two parties.
Me: i still doubt that, but w/e
scrub: lol, I was using Maul.

let the back peddeling begin

I could do more damage than you on my BLM .... H2H ... facing the opposite way ... while blinded and paralyzed. :roll:
 
[quote="Thnikkaman]
Final rant piece... WHM's, stop eating pies and stuff. Stick to cookies for downtime or something. And always remember MND is the most useless attribute in the game, MP is your friend. If ever possible, get an Astral or something of that family.[/quote]

Hehe. I am not sure if you're being sarcastic on this thread or or not. Just in case, I will clear something up for you. MND is hardly the most useless attribute in this game. It is more benificial than many give credit to.

Not only does it boost your resistance, it increases your cure. It will effect how long you remain silenced, asleep, etc. Granted, I do use MP gear. And I will even agree with you on cookies, or foods that will help you get more mp return on resting. Having a MP pool of 1000mp will do you absolutely no good if you don't ever have that much mp to use. In sittuations where you don't have the option to rest-- mp items all the way and just gear swap.

As far as mages meleeing: Like above, it's sittuational. I Love to melee. Would I melee in an exp setting (w/the exception of goofing around) NO.

Will I ask a RDM not to melee in an exp party? Yes. There is nothing more counter-productive than building up the mob's tp for the sake of a mage skilling up in an exp party. Then again, there are times I won't care as long as they are doing their other priorities well pending the mob type. I can honestly only think of one person that has fit that description, tho.

Some of what you posted I can agree with-- we have gotten to the point of playing a game of very little in between or variety. Usually, however, that is due to the fact that most cases the dominated choice is better.

...not always, but.. most of the time.
 
I'm not really being sarcastic in that sense. However I do agree that MND is useful. My MND is still my highest increased attribute, but I'd rather have more MP than anything. And I really don't see why people can't melee all the time. I mean, no matter how much damage is done to me, I only get 2 tp every hit. And in the whole case, I miss almost every hit anyway, and when I do, I usually do 0 damage anyway. Or when I used to kick ass with melee, I'd do lots, so it'd be worth it.
 
This guy is a homo anyways,,,he tried to MPK me earlier...watch out for him. He is a real first class fuck clown. anyways, thnx for posting this and making yourself look mor stupid than you already did.... SEE YOU AGAIN
 
:lol: ... then ...

*just shakes her noggin'*

Vang, you can definitely tear this one for us, although Meeze is already doin' a pretty damn good job^^ ...
 
i seriously read this i am like O.O, wtf are you doing melee? im a 57WHM i have never melee'd in xp party EVER, and if you REALLY think you coulda out DD a NIN or THF, Um what steroids and weapon are you using on your char, i would love to be able to out DD THF and NIN... still a WHM melee?
 
Okay, listen, Delite. Don't hate me. You have no right to. I did not MPK your party. I was power leveling it. If you didn't Blacklist me, or atleast listened like a sensible person would, you would know that every time something bad happened, it was actually you who was screwing up your party. For example, when I was gonna cast Flash off that Acrophies, you insisted on casting a spell on it and you claimed it. Or when your WHM/SMN cast banishga, he aggro'd a leech. I claimed that one with melee attack. Then you used an AoE bard song on your party, and it attacked you. Considering you ran and it followed, I obviously didn't try to MPK you by Binding it right beside you. As for this rant. Maybe it does make me look more stupid, but it's only for fun, and to see what others think. Maybe we can talk it over tomorrow. I don't want an enemy in the game. It's just a game.
 
Thats reallllly funny, cause I did SLEEP the Acrophies cause you let it kill the blm...then let it kill me.

Also, You did claim the other Acrophies (seperate occasion) by binding it on top f me... do not fucking lie, cause as soon as I ran away it attacked you girl, so you prcoeeded to attackit and kill it.

I called you out on it, and you called me a noob, asking what my highest lvl job was...and how long I have been playng for. when I fuckin schooled yur ass for the MPK, yu wapred out like a bitch, and started to shout in lower jueno about how I tried tp MPK my PT and you in Qufim.

Then, kept sending me tells...after you amde yourself look stupid, yes again, I can see it is a common occurance for you, by again, calling me a noob and how I "MPKed" my party.

You are by far the dumbest fuck on this server, don't want enemies huh, I will search whore you down and MPK yout ill you are lvl 1 if yu cross my path again.

So get the fuck out, only a game but yet you have a girlfriend in it...wierd, whats the matter, cannot get one in al life, have to revert to E pussy...

Fag
 
Okay, listen, I outdamaged a THF like once, okay? I thought Meeze made that clear that I accidentally had some bad grammar and it made some people confused. Enough about that.
Delite, I mean, I'm trying to be a nice guy about all this. Trying to sort it out, but you won't believe me. I couldn't save your BLM in the party because you claimed the Acrophies and that threw me off, so I couldn't save him. Please just settle down, unblacklist me, and hear me out. I didn't bind an Acrophies on top of you. And how can it be MPK'ing when I Cure 3'd you after everything? The funny part is, everyone seems to believe you, yet you're the one who's so pissed off.
HEAR ME OUT QCDN: I DID NOT MPK ANYONE EVER! So just settle down.
 
<quote>I will search whore you down and MPK yout ill you are lvl 1 if yu cross my path again</quote>

sorry, i just find that comment funny, if it were possible to mpk him that many times and still remember why, it'd be a valiant effort, but good luck getting him below level 4

as for the rant...

i use nin sub job so i can wield weapons with stat boosts instead of the crappy shields available, and have shadows for pulling(thf)
but, it is over used not in amount but in purpose.
Nin was designed as a DD class, with the elemental weakening skills and the shadows to manage hate when it gets on with you nin makes a great DD, it's NOT meant to be a tank, hence why SE made shadows drop hate...

Mages Meleeing - Great idea, as long as the mage can still do his or her job as a mage, it will add more Weapon skills to chain with and although light, more damage to the mob, which can NEVER be a bad thing, the amount of tp a mob gets from being hit is miniscule, it gets its TP from successfully hitting(i do believe shadows give TP as well, not sure)

MND - Every Stat has a reason for every job, in an ideal world, this stat would be the one added to last for mages to make a more well rounded character

Thnikkaman is a good guy, he knows his stuff, i think you've all misinterpreted this post, it's just a post to get people thinking about the other possibilities of the game, it's a versatile world and it's insulting to the creators to have everyone play the same way
 
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