Fuck you SE for nerfing THF further!!!!

Only time a THF pulls hate is if there tank sucks or they miss TA and get the hate then. Really.. IF a THF pulls hate other then a miss TA WS.. the rest of your party DD and tanks sucks major ass. SATA ISNT necessary.... thats why THFs have poor invite ratio, but when we do get a invite, our party expects us to do our job and SATA the main tank so hate is more stabile. I'm with Sneaky though, IF you don't like the TP nerf and want to bitch bout it, become a mage, that way you won't have to worry bout your TP gain. SE doesn't gimp, nerf a job .... a player does.
 
Calv/Godofdeath said:
Only time a THF pulls hate is if there tank sucks or they miss TA and get the hate then. Really.. IF a THF pulls hate other then a miss TA WS.. the rest of your party DD and tanks sucks major ass. SATA ISNT necessary.... thats why THFs have poor invite ratio, but when we do get a invite, our party expects us to do our job and SATA the main tank so hate is more stabile. I'm with Sneaky though, IF you don't like the TP nerf and want to bitch bout it, become a mage, that way you won't have to worry bout your TP gain. SE doesn't gimp, nerf a job .... a player does.

THF's invites suck because honestly, 95% of the THF player base doesn't have the equipment to do decent damage. Those THFs are dead weight at best.

And yeah, SE does gimp/nerf jobs.
 
yall got nuthin to complain about

I spent 8 months leveling the hardest job there is to level (anyone who's leveled it will attest to this, my 75 smn was a joke compared to bst, took a month) and for my trouble i expect a very powerful farming job....

what do i get?

i was 75 for a month when SE came along and fucked with the mobs so they depop. why, because people can't control their greed, cuz people are tired of dying, cuz people cant outsmart gilsellers.... take yur pik

NO other job has taken the beating my bst has in nerfs, the only one to come close is rng. i can definitly agree with you tho that its not right to get nerfed after all the time and work.

i do agree that SE is a serious problem. they force us to agree to their compliance rules, and they are supposed to inform us of any changes.

heres a thought SE, how bout you tell us a year in advance that your going to demolish a job's abilities because you think they are too powerful. NVM im wastin my breath cuz every time theres a nerf i think its done to encourage people to play longer by taking up the "new most powerful job"

so heres a thought SE ive decided to go whm/smn since i think its the only job that you cant possibly nerf.

SE this flame is for you.
 
Gotta agree with Necrosis...last half dozen THFs (all /NIN...) I've partied with couldn't break 500 with an SB. And I KNOW there's THF out there who break 1k all the time, just seem most seem to halfass the job so they can solo at 74 or something.

And really, I mean no offense to alot of people here, but most of the GOOD Thieves I know don't really care about this "nerf". All it's really done is reduce the WSspam of certain jobs (i.e. NIN and THF), so now going and soloing Sozu or something is gonna take a lot longer, as opposed to being able to DE or Jin every 10-15 seconds. Really, just get a good friend and just team up vs that kindof crap, it'll go alot faster and probably be alot funner..
 
It looks bad on paper but in practice the difference isn't that noticable.

Before the update I could almost keep up with a SAM for TP. Now I can't, but I'm not supposed to be able to.

At the end of the day if you've got the right set-up of equipment, it shouldn't matter. Pimp your Acc+ and make every hit count. That's how THF got TP quickly before and it's how it'll work now.

Triple Attack for the win.
 
marxx said:
i do agree that SE is a serious problem. they force us to agree to their compliance rules, and they are supposed to inform us of any changes.

Oh shit, heaven forbid they take control over their game when they see something as a problem... fuck...
 
Just face it. SE doesn't care to fix classic jobs that aren't up to par. Bst, thf, drg in particular...they just don't seem to care. Cor and blu are already A+ jobs from what it sounds. If you play the bottom 3, you're just going to have to accept the fact that they're always going to be down there, and there probably won't be any major changes to thf or drg...ever.
 
a DRG is a way powerfull job sub RDM and you are a great soloer
THF/nin soloing for gill is easy just steal and hide do it to gobs and you get some good steals you can make over 300k a hr.
BST can solo some HNMs so i do not call that nerf.
 
Honestly what the hell is the point of soloing DC-VT's. Seriously. There is none. This is an online game where everything SIGNIFICANT is done WITH OTHERS. Others that don't invite you because you're a drg. Soloing is pointless. It's what you say you're good at when no one will touch you.
 
Soloing is pointless? Thief can make a shitload of money soloing. Actually I think Thief can prolly make more money soloing than any big group can make money. Money Per person drops overall sums and getting a group together takes a while.
Note:This thiery requires a good thief.

What group work nets you large amounts of money? KSNM BCNM? Because I know damn well that Gods, HNMs, and Dynamis are not going to give you that much money.
 
blazn said:
...THF/nin soloing for gill is easy just steal and hide do it to gobs and you get some good steals you can make over 300k a hr...

60min / 5min(stealrecast) = 12
With 100% success, you'd be making around 260k/hr... and of course you won't steal anywhere near 100%.
 
Ugotjacked said:
Soloing is pointless? Thief can make a shitload of money soloing. Actually I think Thief can prolly make more money soloing than any big group can make money. Money Per person drops overall sums and getting a group together takes a while.
Note:This thiery requires a good thief.

What group work nets you large amounts of money? KSNM BCNM? Because I know damn well that Gods, HNMs, and Dynamis are not going to give you that much money.

Anyone can make more soloing than any big group can. We don't call making money alone "soloing." We call it farming. Soloing implies getting xp.

You can do both? You really can't. Awarrior or monk can farm faster than you can "solo" for drops, and they get more invites than you do and potentially see higher xp per hour than you can unless you're disgracing thief in a wsburn party trying to make it as unnoticeable as possible that you're holding everyone back. Anyone can farm, and most can get easier xp. So thief is...what now?

It's a hobby. Calling. Mark of pride. That's if you're playing thief because you like thief. Otherwise, thief is just a tool for NM hunting whores these days. Whatever you want to call it, it drew the short stick and no one really cares enough to change that. Dev team has moved on to pup, cor, and blu tweaking while finishing up the patches of the advanced jobs. Thief is archaic. Now I like thief for what it is, but that's probably just because mine doesn't need more party invites and inclusion into a group to get X done. The thief backbone works in xp parties from 15-60, then unexplainably plummets off the map in terms of usefulness and effectiveness. For as difficult as it is to play with a thief, it stops paying off halfway through the game. And that's pretty darn ironic given the abilities of a thief.
 
THF is weak. When I first started this game I thought it went off of the old FF way of doing things. Like you had to have THF to 30 to unlock NIN, or WAR to 30 to unlock PLD. Then after about 2 days of playing I was set straight on the whole advance jobs thing and just wanted to be a WHM & SAM, the most honorable jobs in the game. Then I realized that People in this game don't know what roleplaying is and it became this great race to 75 to do the fun stuff. While I watched my sister do all of the fun stuff and to me it seems like I took the better route. To be honest though THF is needed to atleast 45 if you want to make any kind of good money in this game. But that is just coming from someone who likes to camp NMs and after going 0/100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 on all NMs camped, well Geyser Lizard drops enough, it finally convinced me to get my THF/WAR to 50. Maybe I'll take it higher depending on if Mee Deggi finally gives up them damn Kote.
 
Shaunessy said:
THF is weak. When I first started this game I thought it went off of the old FF way of doing things. Like you had to have THF to 30 to unlock NIN, or WAR to 30 to unlock PLD. Then after about 2 days of playing I was set straight on the whole advance jobs thing and just wanted to be a WHM & SAM, the most honorable jobs in the game. Then I realized that People in this game don't know what roleplaying is and it became this great race to 75 to do the fun stuff.QUOTE]

That THF->NIN WAR->PLD thing only applied to FF1. Damn, man, welcome to 1986...

And er... great race to 75? Aren't you the one being a dumb shit in the FPS thread about "WINNING = EVERYTHING"? The trip to 75 must be fucking ghey if you never make it there, AMIRITE?
 
Well FFXI isn't really a PvP game so ah you fail at whatever you were triing to accomplish. I play FFIX for totally different reasons than I play an online FPS for. My brother even gives me shit all the time about if I just picked one job and stuck with it, or if I stopped doing all the side quests and camping I did I would have 4 jobs to 75 already. You know what though, that doesn't interest me.
 
Shaunessy said:
Well FFXI isn't really a PvP game so ah you fail at whatever you were triing to accomplish. I play FFIX for totally different reasons than I play an online FPS for. My brother even gives me shit all the time about if I just picked one job and stuck with it, or if I stopped doing all the side quests and camping I did I would have 4 jobs to 75 already. You know what though, that doesn't interest me.

Oh my God, heaven forbid you have fun playing a game and not obsess over winning at all costs!
 
Shaunessy said:
You know what though, that doesn't interest me.
i've found that having a 75 job helps immensely when doing lower level jobs again, simply because you have acces to Gil that lower levels dont have. I know that my BRD and SMN are doing better comming up because i have 75 RNG.
 
Marajade said:
i've found that having a 75 job helps immensely when doing lower level jobs again, simply because you have acces to Gil that lower levels dont have. I know that my BRD and SMN are doing better comming up because i have 75 RNG.

Great for you. I have a 60 WHM that can mine all day and only get agro in Newton. What is your point?
 
Shaunessy said:
Great for you. I have a 60 WHM that can mine all day and only get agro in Newton. What is your point?
Snipers rings *COUGH*
 
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