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Ruffyreborn

Ruffyreborn

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As in gasoline... And I don't mean VERY near.

http://masslogics.com/truckingnews/a-green-muscle-car-110-mpg-mustang-does-0-60-in-3-seconds/

We all know about the more efficient engine designs and fueling methods which were purchased by oil and transportation companies. You know, the ones we only read about and almost never see because they dont produce them? Yeah, those.

Well, this guy might possibly change all that, that is if he keeps his patents and doesn't sell them off for his personal profit... Even though if he kept the patents, he could probably make more than he ever could just by selling them off.

My fingers are crossed. Imagine an engine design such as his used on a bike. If it will currently quadruple the mileage of most gasoline powered vehicles atm, would it at least triple that of a bike? Are we seeing a potential 240+ MPG?
 
What're they gonna do about it?
 
honestly who the fuck cares?

we are getting raped at the pumps and they are raking in millions each fucking week, it would be a god send if they made an engine that could put out that kind of gas mileage
 
Ruffyreborn said:
They could attempt to buy the patents off of the dude. As long as he says no, theres a chance we could see these engines in our vehicles.
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Either that or... the oil companies buy their way into the influence of important politicians.

Oh wait.

/sigh
 
Stop complaining about your gas prices <.< It was a godsend when I drove around in the US. Our gas prices are about 3x as much as yours, and in Ireland they're like 4x as much according to the Irish tourists we met.
 
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Stop complaining about your gas prices <.< It was a godsend when I drove around in the US. Our gas prices are about 3x as much as yours, and in Ireland they're like 4x as much according to the Irish tourists we met.
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dude, lol... You live in Sweden. One USD is worth almosts SIX KRONA(s? idk).

Minimum wage where I live is $5.25/hr, gas per gallon here is $4.10. People all around the world are paying the same price for gas. That is, as long as they pay for their gas in their country. Its an entirely different story when you bring your money over here, convert it and then buy gas. Duh its going to feel cheaper.

I have a friend in england, dropped out of school, has not been to a uni, and she gets £8/hr. A measly low-end job is getting her almost three times the pay a low-end job here would get. iirc she pays about $5.80/gallon. Dont complain about YOUR gas prices, lol. (this is relevant when taking the gas prices/leftover cash into mind) At least all of you living in europe have extra cash to spend, especially taking my gas prices and UK's, and then comparing wages.

You talk like the entire world is using the same currency system.
 
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Yeah, I am really getting tired of Europeans telling us to "stop crying" about it.
 
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Yeah, I am really getting tired of Europeans telling us to "stop crying" about it.
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They really should. For some reason, many europeans seem to think that the entire world uses the same currency scale.

Everyone pays the SAME PRICE for gas according to their own countries prices and hourly wages.
 
Yeah, because we make 3x more in Sweden then you do >.>

I'm well-aware that the entire world don't use the same currency scale. However, it doesn't change the fact that the oil price is still cheaper in the states then it is in a lot of other places, compared to their own currency.

The REASON you think it is so expensive is because you're used to the low prices. Thus, a slight increase is still an increase for you. We get just as upset in Europe over increased oil prices. However, we'd still love to have an oil price as low as yours.

Really, how a lot of people want to drill oil just outside the coast just to lower the oil prices over there makes me upset. It takes millions of years for oil to be created, and who knows what purpose it serves. Either way, like everything else, it could serve an important purpose. To top it all of, you're willing to contribute to global warming even more, as well as depleting the oil resources even faster, JUST to save a few bucks.
 
Uzor said:
Yeah, because we make 3x more in Sweden then you do >.>

I'm well-aware that the entire world don't use the same currency scale. However, it doesn't change the fact that the oil price is still cheaper in the states then it is in a lot of other places, compared to their own currency.

The REASON you think it is so expensive is because you're used to the low prices. Thus, a slight increase is still an increase for you. We get just as upset in Europe over increased oil prices. However, we'd still love to have an oil price as low as yours.

Really, how a lot of people want to drill oil just outside the coast just to lower the oil prices over there makes me upset. It takes millions of years for oil to be created, and who knows what purpose it serves. Either way, like everything else, it could serve an important purpose. To top it all of, you're willing to contribute to global warming even more, as well as depleting the oil resources even faster, JUST to save a few bucks.
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It has nothing to do with how much money you make; it has to do with the relative value of your currency. Just like Ruffy said, everyone around the world pays virtually the same price for gas relative to the value of their currency. When the cost of oil rises, the value of the U.S. Dollar drops which usually lends to an increase in value for other widely used currencies such as the Euro or the Yen. When the cost of oil rises, the cost of goods also rise, which, for most Americans, also means a "cost of living" pay increase. Doesn't matter if we're paying $,99/gallon or $4.00/gallon, we're still paying the same relative price. The problem is that right now the rate of increase for the cost of gas/consumer goods is outpacing the same increase in wages.
 
Uzor said:
Really, how a lot of people want to drill oil just outside the coast just to lower the oil prices over there makes me upset. It takes millions of years for oil to be created, and who knows what purpose it serves. Either way, like everything else, it could serve an important purpose. To top it all of, you're willing to contribute to global warming even more, as well as depleting the oil resources even faster, JUST to save a few bucks.
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Yo, the reason I posted the thread in its entirety was to support the fact that an engine which uses LESS GASOLINE could be coming to us... I dont really understand how this constitutes me "contributing to global warming, depleting oil resources, just to save a few bucks."

Or are you just trying to conform the entire US into a cultural cliche, like a lot of people enjoy doing?
 
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Yo, the reason I posted the thread in its entirety was to support the fact that an engine which uses LESS GASOLINE could be coming to us... I dont really understand how this constitutes me "contributing to global warming, depleting oil resources, just to save a few bucks."

Or are you just trying to conform the entire US into a cultural cliche, like a lot of people enjoy doing?
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I know. And no, the reason I posted that is because when I were in the states, there were debates on the TV and expert panels talking about how much money you could save if you started drilling oil off the coast, etc. There's also a website with name collection about "acting NOW" so that you can save more money.

It has nothing to do with how much money you make; it has to do with the relative value of your currency. Just like Ruffy said, everyone around the world pays virtually the same price for gas relative to the value of their currency. When the cost of oil rises, the value of the U.S. Dollar drops which usually lends to an increase in value for other widely used currencies such as the Euro or the Yen. When the cost of oil rises, the cost of goods also rise, which, for most Americans, also means a "cost of living" pay increase. Doesn't matter if we're paying $,99/gallon or $4.00/gallon, we're still paying the same relative price. The problem is that right now the rate of increase for the cost of gas/consumer goods is outpacing the same increase in wages.
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No, I know. But really, it isn't entirely true. Yes, it is tied to the currency also, but every time the currency rises or drops, the oil price doesn't necessarily follow the curve EXACTLY. Oil isn't gold, even though it is often called "the black gold" or "liquid gold". The oil prices follow common principles as well. The cost at the gas station is dependent on how much it will cost for the gas station to replace the gas. If it will cost them more, they raise the gas price. It isn't dependent on how much it cost them to buy all of their gallons. If there's more oil, the gas price will go down. In April 2000, the gas price was $1,46 per gallon. In the same month, gasoline used to cost $1,79 per liter. That is $6,78 per gallon. In comparison, the EU/dollar ratio were pretty much 1/1.

Yes, I know it is outpacing the same increase in wages. However, we've paid a lot more for gas, even considering our wages, for years. There's a reason a lot of people in Sweden chose to walk, take the bike, or use public transportation instead of taking the car, and it is not ONLY for environmental health. A lot of people chose to take the car only if they really have to, such as when they need to travel a long distance. Reason I chose 200 was that it were before 9/11 and that invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq, where the the dollar started a huge decline. In 2000 they were pretty much 1/1.
 
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Uzor said:
I know. And no, the reason I posted that is because when I were in the states, there were debates on the TV and expert panels talking about how much money you could save if you started drilling oil off the coast, etc. There's also a website with name collection about "acting NOW" so that you can save more money.
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TV in the US is laughable lol :p Especially the news. You should not trust american news.
 
Actually, it has almost nothing to do with how much you make or how much your currency is worth, and almost everything to do with taxes. Most European nations tax the living shit out of gasoline.
 
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Actually, it has almost nothing to do with how much you make or how much your currency is worth, and almost everything to do with taxes. Most European nations tax the living shit out of gasoline.
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And they use it for public transportation purposes. If I'm not mistaken, they have a lot more respect for bicyclists too by making sure there are plenty of sidewalks everywhere. I could only dream of sidewalks being everywhere in any town I live in. =(

However, I don't support taxes at all. Gas taxation in the US is close to a dollar a gallon if it isn't already. But I'm more worried about inflation in general. Groceries are insane. I'm giving $50 where I normally gave $30. I'm barely making above minimum wage and I'm relying on overtime to be able to make it. I've got 17 hours overtime this week. That's not easy to do in an extremely busy and extremely understaffed fast food restaurant. Last night, we had a never ending line and only had two employees.

Wait.. what was the topic about? =P
 
I find it funny how many of these "concept car" threads turn into dust, people forget about them. Every week it seems there's a new wonder car that will save the world from the impending gas crisis. Then those patents get bought out by the oil companies for "further development" which translates to vaulting them and suing the pants off anyone who attempts to release it to the public.

What needs to be done is no more of this bullshit about drilling off shore or in Alaska, but governmental regulation of the industry as a whole. I'd really like to understand the price gouging more in depth. How can they record record profits when our country is falling into the worst recession in decades? I don't mean that their revenue was high, but their costs were high as well, which would justify the increase. Their PROFIT margin on gas has also increased. This is simply not acceptable. If the milk industry did the same thing, you bet your ass the government would have regulated that within a week. Congress really needs to pull their hands out of the oil company's pockets.

I think that part of elections we should all be made fully aware of any assets that the candidates have when it comes to interests in companies. That would at least give us fair warning that we'll vote for the person who will back their company before they'll back the interests of the American people.
 
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