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Meeze never hid the fact that he is an asshole. He knows how to play his jobs and he plays them well. If you don't know how to play yours he will let you know. He is brutally honest and doesn't waste time letting you know that, if you fuck up. He is also very generous and more than willing to help people out for no personal gain of his own. Kinda sucks that he deleted a character, but as far as the strip mining goes....Partygirl deserved it.
 
Right or wrong doesn't matter much - depends on your oppinion on an eye for an eye style justice. Some people will think Meeze was wrong, some people won't. I think one of the people who thinks Meeze was wrong was Meeze, if he jumped servers after doing so. Unless I misread the chronology here, it looks like that was the case. If he thought he was the good guy in this situation, he'd have stayed. I can't imagine why Partygirl would share her account info with the same person whose character she looted in the past. Account sharing under the best of circumstances is risky behavior at best, because friends can come and go, but this is really over the top. I can think of two to three people I wouldn't object to sharing my account info with, but I still won't do so.
 
I went to a Yankee game with Meeze and we saw A-Rod hit #500.

After the game, he took my ticket and deleted it.
 
Meeze never hid the fact that he is an asshole. He knows how to play his jobs and he plays them well. If you don't know how to play yours he will let you know. He is brutally honest and doesn't waste time letting you know that, if you fuck up. He is also very generous and more than willing to help people out for no personal gain of his own. Kinda sucks that he deleted a character, but as far as the strip mining goes....Partygirl deserved it.

QFT - Im reading this thread, and im noticing that every single one of his critics, never have anything of value to say... just fucking trolls who live to argue and can't stand the competition of someone who is better at arguing than them. Seriously, it reminds me of how everyone in the game with Mentor status is always someone I would never ask for game advice. He hurt your pride and attacked your confidence when you never really could justify either, thats why you hate him.

Meeze is an asshole, and extremely vindictive... hes one of those guys that if hes on your team hes awesome, but if hes not, hes your biggest pain in the ass. The only exception to that rule is when your team has bullshit rules or leads, then he'll move to use his points, get what he can for his time, and leave, and this time is no exception.... Meeze wants a hope torque but doesnt have the points, then when he does have the points the item goes to someone with a better job???

Unless someone wants to combat that statement it seems that when it came to Meeze the rules were 1) Points when Meeze doesnt have them, 2) Job priority when he does.

I don't usually post in here, unless its something I can offer an unbiased opinion on, or something that directly effects me, this is a rare exception. In the 2 or so years that i've known meeze, hes been more helpful than almost anyone else I know, whether it be finding me buyers for my gear, or helping me camp sirocco when he needed one also...

My only regret is that I never had the time to repay all the favors he did for me and I guess I never will.
 
QFT - Im reading this thread, and im noticing that every single one of his critics, never have anything of value to say... just fucking trolls who live to argue and can't stand the competition of someone who is better at arguing than them. Seriously, it reminds me of how everyone in the game with Mentor status is always someone I would never ask for game advice. He hurt your pride and attacked your confidence when you never really could justify either, thats why you hate him.

Meeze is an asshole, and extremely vindictive... hes one of those guys that if hes on your team hes awesome, but if hes not, hes your biggest pain in the ass. The only exception to that rule is when your team has bullshit rules or leads, then he'll move to use his points, get what he can for his time, and leave, and this time is no exception.... Meeze wants a hope torque but doesnt have the points, then when he does have the points the item goes to someone with a better job???

Unless someone wants to combat that statement it seems that when it came to Meeze the rules were 1) Points when Meeze doesnt have them, 2) Job priority when he does.

I don't usually post in here, unless its something I can offer an unbiased opinion on, or something that directly effects me, this is a rare exception. In the 2 or so years that i've known meeze, hes been more helpful than almost anyone else I know, whether it be finding me buyers for my gear, or helping me camp sirocco when he needed one also...

My only regret is that I never had the time to repay all the favors he did for me and I guess I never will.

And yet another supporter buries Meeze.
 
Maybe we should move this to good times. He got revenge on the bitch who fucked him over... and he's gone from quetz. His friend will have memories to adorn the thread with, and his enemies can rejoice in the fact he can't be an asshole anymore.
 
And yet another supporter buries Meeze.

wow, you can put stuff in bold and make them look bad when taken out of context!!!

you should go into politics


If you could read between the lines, and im guessing you can, you do seem at the very least mildly intelligent, you would know that I was taking all of the flaws, the bad things that people had to say about meeze, and putting positive spins on it...

Lets take a closer look at what you decided to bold,

"Meeze is an asshole, and extremely vindictive" He is!!! and so are you at this point, the difference is, Meeze is an asshole for telling people how it is, you however, are an asshole for blatantly trying to skew my words..... As for being vindictive, this is not an attractive quality, I consider my self vindictive too, but all it means is don't fuck with me and we won't have problems.

"biggest pain in the ass" In the context of, "if hes not on your team" The point being, he only seems bad to the people competeing against him.

"get what he can" "and leave" This one is just ridiculous, you're really stretching, you should've just quoted them out of context so people couldnt even reread the sentence.... Unless you're trying to say you would stay in a linkshell with poor leadership, broken rules and a broken lotting system. If thats what you're saying then good luck to you, you'll need it. Imagine if terrel owens was on the Jets this year.....

"when he needed one also..." Did I say he lotted against me? did i say he came out to some benefit for himself??? No, he came out and helped me get an item that he could've used also. Didn't even ask if he could lot.

I don't know what you expected, did you expect me to make a carebear post and not address any of his flaws? Would you have been more approving if I came on here and said he was a saint??? Well, he wasn't, but he was my friend. And i'm not about to come on here and try and say that he was perfect to everyone and everything, I believe in responsible posting, and part of that is saying what you think while considering AND addressing the opposite opinion.
 
Maybe we should move this to good times. He got revenge on the bitch who fucked him over... and he's gone from quetz. His friend will have memories to adorn the thread with, and his enemies can rejoice in the fact he can't be an asshole anymore.

that is the most well put, positive, intelligent, mature and sensible thing I've ever seen you say.
 
lol Not quite as epic as I had hoped this would get when I left, but good enough for now.

I am all for the unbanning of Meeze to make this a little more interesting.
 
Maybe go back and unban all the nonbots, and allow flameboard only posting? I mean, it seems like QCDN is trying to go back to its roots. I remember when QCDN banned its first member in ages- Roofie, and that took an act of congress to get done. This place never banned anyone. Flameboard only access would be a good compromise, and could also serve as the final punishment for humans who get banned.
 
Flameboard read-only? xD
 
And yet another idiot using out of context quotes.

"bolded for emphasis" =/= "out of context" there, skippy; the entire quote is there; just the salient parts are outlined for emphasis.

what do they teach kids in school these days :nono:
 
wow, you can put stuff in bold and make them look bad when taken out of context!!!

you should go into politics


If you could read between the lines, and im guessing you can, you do seem at the very least mildly intelligent, you would know that I was taking all of the flaws, the bad things that people had to say about meeze, and putting positive spins on it...

Lets take a closer look at what you decided to bold,

"Meeze is an asshole, and extremely vindictive" He is!!! and so are you at this point, the difference is, Meeze is an asshole for telling people how it is, you however, are an asshole for blatantly trying to skew my words..... As for being vindictive, this is not an attractive quality, I consider my self vindictive too, but all it means is don't fuck with me and we won't have problems.

"biggest pain in the ass" In the context of, "if hes not on your team" The point being, he only seems bad to the people competeing against him.

"get what he can" "and leave" This one is just ridiculous, you're really stretching, you should've just quoted them out of context so people couldnt even reread the sentence.... Unless you're trying to say you would stay in a linkshell with poor leadership, broken rules and a broken lotting system. If thats what you're saying then good luck to you, you'll need it. Imagine if terrel owens was on the Jets this year.....

"when he needed one also..." Did I say he lotted against me? did i say he came out to some benefit for himself??? No, he came out and helped me get an item that he could've used also. Didn't even ask if he could lot.

I don't know what you expected, did you expect me to make a carebear post and not address any of his flaws? Would you have been more approving if I came on here and said he was a saint??? Well, he wasn't, but he was my friend. And i'm not about to come on here and try and say that he was perfect to everyone and everything, I believe in responsible posting, and part of that is saying what you think while considering AND addressing the opposite opinion.

lol (letters)
 
It seems that the general concensus of this thread is 'Wow that was stupid... but they deserved it'. Some of the people that just keep on saying 'Omg Meeze is a dickhead/asshole/<insert explitive here>' I'd like to know if you had your character was stolen and returned to you a year later... and then after some time the person that took your character from you gave you another character. Would you do the same thing? Would you get some type of revenge? Or would you simply just go on without doing a thing? Are you really that righteous? Would fucking them over, just as they had you, never even cross your mind once?

Please answer, I would love to know.
 
Posted about NotMeeze, but relevant here too:

Look, the problem with almost all of the talented asshole friends that you have is eventually they get around to being an asshole to you.

It's fun to cheer on your buddy when he successfully CC's something for you, but when dozens of people tell you he's an asshole, and you defend him with "he's really good at what he does", expect a knife in the back. Soon.
 
It seems that the general concensus of this thread is 'Wow that was stupid... but they deserved it'. Some of the people that just keep on saying 'Omg Meeze is a dickhead/asshole/<insert explitive here>' I'd like to know if you had your character was stolen and returned to you a year later... and then after some time the person that took your character from you gave you another character. Would you do the same thing? Would you get some type of revenge? Or would you simply just go on without doing a thing? Are you really that righteous? Would fucking them over, just as they had you, never even cross your mind once?

Please answer, I would love to know.

If I ever 1. Gave away my account info; 2. Quit; 3. Associated with such an unsavory person as "Partygirl"; and 4. Snatched a high gil item from my LS immediately prior to jumping servers, why, then, I'd be Meeze and do what Meezes do.

Ugh, I need a shower.
 
It seems that the general concensus of this thread is 'Wow that was stupid... but they deserved it'. Some of the people that just keep on saying 'Omg Meeze is a dickhead/asshole/<insert explitive here>' I'd like to know if you had your character was stolen and returned to you a year later... and then after some time the person that took your character from you gave you another character. Would you do the same thing? Would you get some type of revenge? Or would you simply just go on without doing a thing? Are you really that righteous? Would fucking them over, just as they had you, never even cross your mind once?

Please answer, I would love to know.
Yes and no. I would probably taken my stuff back or at least something(s) of equal value to which had been taken from me; however, I would not act like a juvenal delinquent and delete someone else's character. I wouldn't try to steal LS property just so I could resell it. Notice he tried to get a Novio Earring for a character that wasn't his own? I'm sure you can guess what he planned on doing with it and why he wanted it.

Do you personally think he is so innocent? Or even righteous? Obviously Meeze doesn't even think so. I mean what further proof do I need other than look at his own actions. He did it and ran like a bitch with his tail between his legs to another server. That's not the actions of a righteous man, those are the actions of a thieving criminal. Here is a guy who has pissed off so many and garnered so much mistrust, no end game shell would ever accept him on this server. And I am to show him some sympathy or even think he was justified in doing so? How about why it took over a year for him to finally steal her stuff and delete the character?
 
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