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Lavi, want to know who shot down the idea for your juggy? It was me. No way in hell I, or anyone else was going to MAKE people camp that thing for you as a lvl 55-60ish warrior, when u couldnt even use the damn thing. To do so would have been assinine. In fact, I remember telling you that. If you can't use the item, then its not worth the time to get. The fact that you kept pushing it is suspect.

You make it sound like we were camping KA every day. It was a one time deal after maintnance and it basically was whoever wanted to go camp it could go camp it. No one forced anyone to go. In fact, I specifically remember a couple of us camping the paladin trinket from the nm in Altepa after that same maintnance (and no, I did not force anyone to come).

Lavi, if this 'unfairness' or w/e you want to call it keeps occuring to you, maybe its time to step back and examine why that is. Have you EVER been happy in any guild that you have been in? Affinity, Seashell, Encore... these shells are not the root of all evil that you make them out to be.
 
Actually Lavi, Neisan implied that you were being a hypocrite, all I did was chime in with a bit of a humorous PC+1. Admittedly, it was humor at your expense, but such is life. I suppose I should have gone with a "lolJohnnyb" rather than a "lolBriault", but the latter is more specific to you personally, still relevant to the topic at hand in many ways, and ultimately the source of a great deal of humor for a wider audience.

By posting here, attacking Meeze for being, to paraphrase, an untrustworthy thief, you involved yourself in this discussion. The fact is that anyone who condoned Johnnyb's joining of Integral is a giant hypocrite that has no place in this discussion means that I got the singular joy of conducting a wee bit of character assassination upon you.

If only it weren't so incredibly easy.

Still, I did forget your tendency to attack people uninvolved in the discussion. Like how you keep attacking my fiance. She hasn't posted here. She's not involved. You just try to sling dirt in her direction because for some reason you feel she's an easier target than I am, and that by making her look bad you can somehow transfer that to me. Unfortunately for you, the end result looks more desperate than incisive.
 
Raesvelg said:
Actually Lavi, Neisan implied that you were being a hypocrite, all I did was chime in with a bit of a humorous PC+1. Admittedly, it was humor at your expense, but such is life. I suppose I should have gone with a "lolJohnnyb" rather than a "lolBriault", but the latter is more specific to you personally, still relevant to the topic at hand in many ways, and ultimately the source of a great deal of humor for a wider audience.

By posting here, attacking Meeze for being, to paraphrase, an untrustworthy thief, you involved yourself in this discussion. The fact is that anyone who condoned Johnnyb's joining of Integral is a giant hypocrite that has no place in this discussion means that I got the singular joy of conducting a wee bit of character assassination upon you.

If only it weren't so incredibly easy.

Still, I did forget your tendency to attack people uninvolved in the discussion. Like how you keep attacking my fiance. She hasn't posted here. She's not involved. You just try to sling dirt in her direction because for some reason you feel she's an easier target than I am, and that by making her look bad you can somehow transfer that to me. Unfortunately for you, the end result looks more desperate than incisive.
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That was very well written :) Seems without malice as well... factual and to the point.
 
Silenus said:
Go to bed with dogs, wake up with fleas.
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Bestiality ftl :(

Areya said:
they're fucking cowards irl...
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Are you kidding me? Have you seen meeze? Hes a beast, i wouldn't fuck with him in RL...

I butted heads with meeze before but always though he was a good guy, funny as shit sometimes too. I cried a lil inside when he was banned cause that post in the LS Recruiting thread was fucking hilarious.
 
Sirelrohir said:
Lavi, want to know who shot down the idea for your juggy? It was me. No way in hell I, or anyone else was going to MAKE people camp that thing for you as a lvl 55-60ish warrior, when u couldnt even use the damn thing. To do so would have been assinine. In fact, I remember telling you that. If you can't use the item, then its not worth the time to get. The fact that you kept pushing it is suspect.

You make it sound like we were camping KA every day. It was a one time deal after maintnance and it basically was whoever wanted to go camp it could go camp it. No one forced anyone to go. In fact, I specifically remember a couple of us camping the paladin trinket from the nm in Altepa after that same maintnance (and no, I did not force anyone to come).

Lavi, if this 'unfairness' or w/e you want to call it keeps occuring to you, maybe its time to step back and examine why that is. Have you EVER been happy in any guild that you have been in? Affinity, Seashell, Encore... these shells are not the root of all evil that you make them out to be.
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I'm going to go 50 50 on this one. There is nothing wrong with a person wanting a item that drop from a rare nm before they can wear it. People want to be the best, and juggy is the best when it comes to axes, she probably wanted to get a jump start on camping it, knowing it might take awhile to get. However, you are right in the fact, you don't have to camp it. It is a nm not a hnm, so a group of 3-4 people could kill it.
Now ls are not the root of the problem part...
I would agree that they are not. You will rarely see a shell that goes out of there way to screw there members. However things sometimes happen, A lot of times it something leaders of a ls has to do in order to improve. Unfortunately this normally means that there a small few that get hurt by a new policy. (For example group A merges with group B. When the two ls there needs to be a fairness to both parties, but how do you accomplish this? 99% of the time all points will get wiped, leaving people that was on top of the tiers very angry.) For some they feel they was cheated and need voice there option, like lavi. Other feel like the have to get revenge, like meeze.

Where am I going with this you might be asking?

Everyone has there own mind, leads them to thank different things. More so a member of a ls normally don't know all the reasons why the leaders make the decisions that they do. Sometime this causes backlash and rumors to start, which can destroy a shell. It a leader's responsibility to get information to there members about these things to stop rumors before they start. However, it is also a member's responsibility to go to a leader to discuss there problems, so a problem can be adjusted/fixed and or explain why it is, the way it is.

Ive been in both the leader scenario, and the member scenario and i can tell you I've made mistakes in passed with both. I can also tell you though that if everyone did the above that these flame boards would be a much more quiet in regards to linkshell orientated threads.
 
Thought I read this from page 1, but I guess this slipped by me.

Areya said:
Meeze is an asshole simply for the fact that anyone acts tough through the internet...they're fucking cowards irl...
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Ilu Areya, but I know Meeze irl, be very surprising to me if he -IS- a coward.

I guess I almost shared a similar opinion(minus the coward part, I just thought he was an asshole, lol still is but he's also a big teddy! :O ohmahgosh!) in the beginning until I wound up in the same NASocial LS and got to know him in there and IRL some.

As far as good riddance goes, like Mot and many others said, if you were in his circle, great pal to have...

If not, I understand the sentiment.

Ok, so what's this thread about now that I've made it this far in?

Looks not much about the Meezenstein.
 
Sirelrohir said:
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Lavi, if this 'unfairness' or w/e you want to call it keeps occuring to you, maybe its time to step back and examine why that is. Have you EVER been happy in any guild that you have been in? Affinity, Seashell, Encore... these shells are not the root of all evil that you make them out to be.
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Qf mother fucking T.

You have to step back and think about who is really greedy here Lavi. You call Meeze a self centered backstabbing asshole :\ Think about it, even though myself and Audino do not see eye to eye, i know he runs a tight ship in Encore. And alot of my friends are really happy in his shell... Funny thing is, most of them are long term members that didnt really mind about the switch in leadership. It was morons like yourself that bitched and moaned because you thought the world was out to get you again.
 
From Dynamis shells, friends, to sky/hnm shells, hell, even social linkshells have 'screwed' you over. The world is out to get you lavi. Going to be funny to see the Intergal 'screwed me' post.
 
Zethren said:
From Dynamis shells, friends, to sky/hnm shells, hell, even social linkshells have 'screwed' you over. The world is out to get you lavi. Going to be funny to see the Intergal 'screwed me' post.
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I bet that one will be the only one that won't be a dillusion....
 
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