HOLY CRAP (update details)

/nod in agreement with WSM...

/befuddled

Why is that getting easier as of late? :shock: :wink:
 
Only thing that kind of bothers me is the lack of space. I have almost 3 sets of complete AF, ex god drops, an assortment of ex event items, and a plethora of other ex items. Now I have to get an ex emp pin (I just sold mine yesterday, not sure if thats good or bad thing yet) and I can't even mule it. I already lack space and now I have 2+ more I need to store? Kind of sucks although it does give a chance for those who don't want to compete versus 50 other campers who do it for a living. Personally, I wish they made a third category like ex and rare, one that allows items to be traded only among a single account to make storage a lot easier.

I am also curious about the new item for Archer's Ring. No one uses Archer's rings EVER and replacing them with an ex item seems like a bad idea to me unless they too can be crafted. However, if thats true, it means gil sellers will either level leathercrafting or only leather crafters should farm it. That being the case, this fix solves nothing. Gil Sellers will be back there in the matter of weeks or days(once they realize this and level leather) and if a leather crafter is needed it forced more gil into the rich crafters pocket. The point of NM is to get a high valued item(whether it be gil or prestige) you can't get anywhere else, but by making it ex and if it is craftable then the item needs to be farmed by a high level crafter. This only makes a crafter work harder(voiding the entire point of a high level craft) and richer. If the item isn't craftable, then isn't it a worthless drop now? I mean +4 acc isn't worth anything since it doesn't significantly help as much as +10 and no one uses archer's yet everyone expects sniper's.

By the way, this update won't make your PCC worth any less. It'll still be rare as hell and I bet the ex knock-off will be just as rare. The only thing you have to complain about now is your source of income and I am sure since almost all the Argus campers have high level crafts, they can make it another way. Don't argue making it a BC drop devalues it either. Go tell OH their Kriegsbell is worthless because it dropped from a BC. If you think getting 99 KS, killing a King Behemoth clone and then getting lucky with the drop is easy, you are sadly mistaken. It takes a thousand times more luck and skill than getting a PCC ever did.
 
God I hope they Keep Argus' Spawn Time/Cycle the Same. I would go out and get the Rare/Ex Version of the PCC just on Principle. Same Goes For the Leapign Boots and Hairpin. Changes like this Make me happy, it really brings the Credit where it belongs. For instance, people call me rich when I am in fact not all that wealthy; I have good gear because I hunted most of it, and now I can really show off that fact with a Rare/Ex piece of gear. No More "OMG you gt a Peacock Charm?!?!? You must be Rich Gimme teh G1LZ0rZ!!!??!?!?" now I can get my Intended: "Holy shit you got a lot of patience."

Not a Stab at Legalus or anything (Disclaimer needed for following statement) But you pay for the 'Now' Factor on equiptment. If you pay 20,000,000 G to get a Peacock Charm, you are paying for an Item you could have gotten for free to begin with.

I just hope the new Items are not stupid looking pieces of shit. Like a Headband or Pink Go-go Boots. Thogh I would Wear "Argus' Nuts" around my neck. :D

My personal Concerne:
I need to remind you what happened when the Fishing Nerfs and the Rusty Cap Nerfs started... We had a new species of MPK'ing HNM hunting Gil Sellers out there fucking with us. Now what? What will Sonic Team and Nuki be doing?
 
I don't know about Lavi... but in my MH...

I have 80 on Mog... 100 on Storage and 55 on my main..
I kinda don't really have to mule for stuffs. Most of my gears are kept by the gear dude including AFs and the AFs that I can't keep is kept in my storage. ^^v

p/s: They should *really* allow you to access your storage from different countries. >.>
 
wolfskymoon said:
Most ppl who buy PCC,buy it for the looks not for the stats.Pretty stupid in my eyes... and some of those ppl buy gil also.SO enix is trying its own method of killing 2 with one arrow.Decreasing the rate ppl buy gil and screwing gil sellers along.
Who the fuck buys an item that you can't even tell their wearing unless you check them? I'm sorry, but this is just retarded. People buy it for the stats, you don't see most people walking around in shit gear because it looks good. Tthink optical hats, ugly as hell, but damn useful; the same with Errant Houpleande.

I'm for this change, although I think they should have done this in the first place. I understand why people who camp these NM's for gil are upset, but at the same time, it will let other people have a better chance at getting some of these items. I've worked hard for some of my gear; but that doesn't mean I wouldn't like some rare/ex gear to wear to free up slots for other gear.
 
is this spose to be done at 2 or 3 EST? i'm still a lil off with the whole PDT conversion thing.
 
Bajaratt said:
wolfskymoon said:
Most ppl who buy PCC,buy it for the looks not for the stats.Pretty stupid in my eyes... and some of those ppl buy gil also.SO enix is trying its own method of killing 2 with one arrow.Decreasing the rate ppl buy gil and screwing gil sellers along.
Who the fuck buys an item that you can't even tell their wearing unless you check them? I'm sorry, but this is just retarded. People buy it for the stats, you don't see most people walking around in shit gear because it looks good. Tthink optical hats, ugly as hell, but damn useful; the same with Errant Houpleande.

I think what he meant is that people buys it for the fame glory and kickass shit cuz i'm better than you shit. XD
 
Lavi said:
Only thing that kind of bothers me is the lack of space. I have almost 3 sets of complete AF,

Dont want to come off as a dick, but there are npc's that take full sets of AF.

As long as they are complete you have 5 slots of space free.

But yeah, S-E needs to come up with some more MH quests this is getting rediculous(sp).
 
masamura said:
Bajaratt said:
wolfskymoon said:
Most ppl who buy PCC,buy it for the looks not for the stats.Pretty stupid in my eyes... and some of those ppl buy gil also.SO enix is trying its own method of killing 2 with one arrow.Decreasing the rate ppl buy gil and screwing gil sellers along.
Who the fuck buys an item that you can't even tell their wearing unless you check them? I'm sorry, but this is just retarded. People buy it for the stats, you don't see most people walking around in shit gear because it looks good. Tthink optical hats, ugly as hell, but damn useful; the same with Errant Houpleande.

I think what he meant is that people buys it for the fame glory and kickass shit cuz i'm better than you shit. XD

That's the Lovely thing about it. Only a handful of people I know with good gear actually wear it walking around. I Am usually in my Magnifying Spectacles, Republic Aketon, Thief Kote, Assassin's Ring, War Boots/Brais, unleass I am out in the field, or on my way out. I stopped wearign my shit and subsiquently stopped talking about my value after my 120th DRG asking For "teh GiLz0rZ". Just to give you an Idea, If I had actually loaned out all the money that was asked of me, I would be exactly 32,401,320,000 Gil in debt, And that is Discounting Most of the last three months and any obsurd Request for anything above 1M... I keep track of stupid Shit like that because it amuses me.
 
With the new rare/ex items in the place... there will be a lot of hunters in the emp, lizzy, and argus spots. But eventually, I think it will die down, because you 'should not' see the same competition since they key items will be rare/ex. Now I can see a lotta people start going for O. Kotes or Signa or any other good item to inflate its price.

for an early post... 20 million for a peacock charm. Wow.. didn't think someone would pay that much for one. You could get like the 'perfect' armor for the rest of that job you're doing with that kind of money. You could probably take something like goldsmithing to like level 70 with that much money. The only other neck armor/collar that has similar stats is what... one with 5 acc and racc? And how much does that cost? (besides spectacles... ^^) Probably 100k if it isn't rare/ex... so.. you're willing to pay 19.9 million for 5 more acc and racc. Wow... just... wow...

I also hope with these new changes with the NM drops will hopefully lower the prices on pieces of armor that have nice acc or eva or etc to them. Like i saw armor items that give you something like 2 acc for almost 100k. If people can get that new rare/ex armor then those prices should go down. But a bad thing i can see is armor crafting. If everyone can get their rare/ex armor piece... what's the use of putting on armor you crafted on the AH to earn money?

Example:

If all nin's, thf's, rng's, and etc were able to get leaping boots and an emp pin they're not really going to look for a substitute for that armor once they reach the level requirement for it. The only other piece of armor they'd wear in its place would be AF, AF2, or their 'final' armor. But i know all people won't be like this.... I think... ^^;

This won't apply to every single kind of armor for whatever job but.. it is something to think about...
 
masamura said:
Bajaratt said:
wolfskymoon said:
Most ppl who buy PCC,buy it for the looks not for the stats.Pretty stupid in my eyes... and some of those ppl buy gil also.SO enix is trying its own method of killing 2 with one arrow.Decreasing the rate ppl buy gil and screwing gil sellers along.
Who the fuck buys an item that you can't even tell their wearing unless you check them? I'm sorry, but this is just retarded. People buy it for the stats, you don't see most people walking around in shit gear because it looks good. Tthink optical hats, ugly as hell, but damn useful; the same with Errant Houpleande.

I think what he meant is that people buys it for the fame glory and kickass shit cuz i'm better than you shit. XD

Problem is A. gil sellers dont camp argus (as mentioned by vang) or very few and far between times they are there. B. Much of this game is about status for some people, to have the best of the best. Its not to have kickass shit cause im better than you to a point, its people that strive for the very best they can get. Thats awesome people have the patience and drive to achieve that.

It looks stupid to people like wolfskymoon because hes never had that income before, nor have I to be honest but you cant knock people for what they have spent time earning. And if you want to bring up some lame he/she is a gilbuyer crap save it, theres no real way to prove, stop trying to say things theres no real truth to it. Some buy gil, some dont just the way things go and have been going on Quetz for a long time.

Maybe it will prohibit people from buying gil to a point but there are still tons of items out there that people will break into their checkbooks for to get what they want.
 
YES

i finally get a chance at one of those beautiful peacock charms.... my dreams of ffxi are complete.... well i mean... no theyve just begun... must get one now that i have a chance ^^
 
Mokk said:
Let's talk jobs for a minute, just to clarify i am a monk first and foremost, yes. I am also a bst, thf, whm, ... well lets do this the easier way .. i'm also everything else but a nin, rdm, brd, and rng. Now, regardless of my jobs and/or skills with said jobs i find it absolutely amazing that all you could manage to respond with was "well your spelling sucks to, and you're a monk so who gives a shit what you have to say" real mature and intellectual, glad you have something to offer to the conversation aside from being a complete dick, vang.

Your mindset that you know what you're talking about, while you might, is overshadowed by your unwillingness to have a decent conversation about this matter and proves the point that most people who want to bitch about changes in an update really should unplug for a second and consider changing hobbies. Did they make it easy to obtain good items? sure. Are you out anything for it? no. Why all the hostility? Certainly doesn't do much on your end to boast joo pwned der galka monk on de boardz.... does it?

made a valid point, don't agree with it? good deal. Show some fucking respect though, i'dve done the same for you.

You are barely past af for your main job let alone all your secondary jobs you have not even been able to get your AF weapon for and you are telling me you are all those jobs as well lol? Give me a break. Level 35 in a job does not give you the right to consider yourself that as well :roll:

You bash Rangers, so I bashed your job simple as that. Works both ways.

Other than what I have said you're just another MNK with average gear with a few crappy low level jobs who is trying to get in a flame war with me because I have alot of nice stuff. Then again, at least you have a life right?
 
The only people i bashed are the ones who bitch and whine about an update. You really oughta try reading something thoroughly before you get your panties in a twist. Again i implore you, keep it on the flameboard where it belongs, everyone can stand in awe of your huge E-penis there.

Do me a favor and get over yourself, the day i get jealous over some dick-weasel having more/better stuff than me on a game is the day i put the controller down.
 
Phraust said:
God I hope they Keep Argus' Spawn Time/Cycle the Same. I would go out and get the Rare/Ex Version of the PCC just on Principle. Same Goes For the Leapign Boots and Hairpin. Changes like this Make me happy, it really brings the Credit where it belongs. For instance, people call me rich when I am in fact not all that wealthy; I have good gear because I hunted most of it, and now I can really show off that fact with a Rare/Ex piece of gear. No More "OMG you gt a Peacock Charm?!?!? You must be Rich Gimme teh G1LZ0rZ!!!??!?!?" now I can get my Intended: "Holy shit you got a lot of patience."

Not a Stab at Legalus or anything (Disclaimer needed for following statement) But you pay for the 'Now' Factor on equiptment. If you pay 20,000,000 G to get a Peacock Charm, you are paying for an Item you could have gotten for free to begin with.

I just hope the new Items are not stupid looking pieces of shit. Like a Headband or Pink Go-go Boots. Thogh I would Wear "Argus' Nuts" around my neck. :D

My personal Concerne:
I need to remind you what happened when the Fishing Nerfs and the Rusty Cap Nerfs started... We had a new species of MPK'ing HNM hunting Gil Sellers out there fucking with us. Now what? What will Sonic Team and Nuki be doing?

How bout Argus' Pearl Necklace
 
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