Homam or Aurum?

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I'm looking to level DRK next and like to take my jobs seriously. I always do the research ahead of time and I want to see what endgame I should get into to better enhance my DRK once it is up there in levels. I see that Limbus is an obvious choice, along with ZNM's. I figured Sky as well. Havn't looked into much else yet, but I was glancing at these two sets and can't seem to decide which is better.

Homam:

Defense +146
HP +127
MP +127
Accuracy +32
Ranged Accuracy +6
Magic Accuracy +4
Haste +12%
Enmity +3
Enhances "Triple Attack" effect
Enhances "Fast Cast" effect
Wyvern: HP +50


Aurum:

Defense: +159
STR +17
DEX +13
VIT -4
AGI -8
Attack +32
Accuracy +13
Evasion -30
"Store TP" +7
Haste +4%

Homam has nice haste and accuracy while Aurum has all the str, dex, and attack. I figured mix and match, but I'd like to hear from DRK veterens.
 
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Hands: Homam
Legs: Homam
Feet: Debatable
Body: Maybe Aurum, but I'd probably use Hauberk or Askar.
Head: Neither, Ace's > Askar > Turban
 
Tyrath said:
Hands: Homam
Legs: Homam
Feet: Debatable
Body: Maybe Aurum, but I'd probably use Hauberk or Askar.
Head: Neither, Ace's > Askar > Turban
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exactly like this, the feet were debated in one of the other threads, and there's really very little difference between them for exp purposes. I'd say Haub+1 as the best body you can get for drk (or E.body) but I'm sure some people would disagree.
 
Homam is pretty much a TP set only. AF+1 Helmet, Hands and Feet are better then Aurum, which you can obtain while getting Homam. The only real item DRKs obtain from ZNms is the Naegralig (I know I mispelt it) Greatsword and that's only for a few DRKs who actually leveled Great Sword skill.
 
There's was actually a debate on that in bg just yesterday.( or at least the question got brought up)
Supposedly if you can lose a hit towards 100tp from it aurum (BODY)actually is king due to the ws increase.
it's around here somewhere
http://www.bluegartrls.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46517&page=65
IF you're too lazy to read they added sword strap to aurum when the stp was too high to give it 3% faster swing speed which is damned powerful when it doesnt fuck with stp.
 
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Homam.
 
Ugh, not this again... the fact that someone will say that Askar Zucchetto is SUPERIOR to W.Turban and then in the exact same post say that Homam and Aurum feet are interchangable (or that Homam are superior) completely boggles my mind. Let's work this out yet again:

What each piece has that the other doesn't:
Askar Zucchetto: STR+4 (negligble), VIT+4 (lol?), DEX+4 (decent)
Walahra Turban: HP+30, MP+30, Haste+1%

Aurum Sabatons: DEX+3 (decent), attack+5 (more than decent)
Homam Gambieras: HP+31, MP+31, Haste+1%

So basically that's saying that 100% without a doubt DEX+4 and STR+4 is better than HP/MP+30 and 1% haste, but DEX+3 and ATK+5 isn't. Someone please explain this to me cause I'm obviously missing the magical powers surrounding this +1 DEX.

Oh and for the record, I think the combo of w.turban and homam feet is best (assuming of course you don't own Ace's Helm).
 
Rappa said:
Ugh, not this again... the fact that someone will say that Askar Zucchetto is SUPERIOR to W.Turban and then in the exact same post say that Homam and Aurum feet are interchangable (or that Homam are superior) completely boggles my mind. Let's work this out yet again:

What each piece has that the other doesn't:
Askar Zucchetto: STR+4 (negligble), VIT+4 (lol?), DEX+4 (decent)
Walahra Turban: HP+30, MP+30, Haste+1%

Aurum Sabatons: DEX+3 (decent), attack+5 (more than decent)
Homam Gambieras: HP+31, MP+31, Haste+1%

So basically that's saying that 100% without a doubt DEX+4 and STR+4 is better than HP/MP+30 and 1% haste, but DEX+3 and ATK+5 isn't. Someone please explain this to me cause I'm obviously missing the magical powers surrounding this +1 DEX.

Oh and for the record, I think the combo of w.turban and homam feet is best (assuming of course you don't own Ace's Helm).
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Cua said:
I was glancing at these two sets and can't seem to decide which is better.
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If that was directed at me, he said sets, so I told him what set was better. Didn't go into individual pieces, as you can see, my post was one word long.

Edit** And taking a second look, I do realize that turban is slightly superior to askar, if that's what you've been aching to hear.
 
I honestly dont think I would actively go after any of the aurum as DRK. Homam legs,feet,hands.

I do however want aurum feet for my WAR.
 
Well I was just wanting to see what the seasoned Dark Knights thought comparing the two. I'm glad Homam was the pick because I really don't want to get back into ZNM's at all.
 
Rappa said:
Someone please explain this to me cause I'm obviously missing the magical powers surrounding this +1 DEX.
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He probably said that because Askar looks better and is rarer then the turban. I think if i had askar i'd do the same ><.
 
Just me or people forgetting about the accuracy on homam gambieras? Or is Quetz a Sushi server? lol.
Hauby +1 for body definitely.
I'm just a haste freak since Last Resort fully meritted and such :\.
 
Gonna come in with my catchphrase here.

Shit is situational.

If you're getting a good deal of haste, Turban/Homam feet are going to show better results due to haste having increasing returns. If you're not getting large amounts of haste, you're probably better off with the added 4 points of STR and DEX. Half the reason people love Rajas ring over another Sniper's is due to the mix of large STR and DEX which affect your fSTR and crit rate respectively. Askar helm is pretty much another little Rajas, which can outweigh +1% haste situationally. Similar to blitz ring and wyvern targe for DRK zerking- people pickup these pieces because they know they're getting haste in the excess, where it's going to make a larger difference.

To the OP: Neither set should be worn as a complete set. Both sets have good pieces and bad pieces, though I can safely say you'll get a lot more out of Homam in general. The legs, hands and feet in particular are possibly the best to offer to DRK in their respective slots for TPing in.
 
Diabllos said:
Shit is situational.
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Yes. However in my opinion, the str/dex isn't worth lowering your haste for unless you're trying to break a dex dear when you're tping. str is a bit silly to stack when you're tping, and myself and I'd assume most people who tp in a rajas are doing it much more for the Store TP than the str.

But the point I'm really trying to drive at is why people think askar is the superior helm but don't think aurum are the superior boots. I agree all of it's situational and pretty much in both slots you can flip/flop either way and do fine, but flat out saying askar's better and not thinking aurum feet are better just seems like a Phoenix Wright sized contradiction.
 
Rappa said:
Yes. However in my opinion, the str/dex isn't worth lowering your haste for unless you're trying to break a dex dear when you're tping. str is a bit silly to stack when you're tping, and myself and I'd assume most people who tp in a rajas are doing it much more for the Store TP than the str.

But the point I'm really trying to drive at is why people think askar is the superior helm but don't think aurum are the superior boots. I agree all of it's situational and pretty much in both slots you can flip/flop either way and do fine, but flat out saying askar's better and not thinking aurum feet are better just seems like a Phoenix Wright sized contradiction.
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I had this exact conversation in the other thread about drk gear, honestly, it's not going anywhere, personally i'd choose Askar head + Aurum Feet over Turban + Homam, but i seriously doubt any combination of those 4 items is going to even be noticed over another. This is for a cannon merit pt btw, before anyone points out there's no HP on either piece for SE.
 
Not only does askar head look terrible, but there's quite a few situations where its stats are doing very little - nothing at the cost of 1% haste ;x
 
While I realize that the race factor has minimal to do with it at 75, I'd still choose the Homam feet around 80-90% of the time over the Aurum feet (as a Tarutaru).

As for the head, I'd toss-up between Askar and Turban. I can make great use of the haste and the extra dex in differing situations (as has been previously noted, "shit is situational").
 
Also, don't forget that for 2H stats are 3:4, so the 4 STR/DEX on Askar is also 3 attack/accuracy. That being said, I still use turban/homam feet. The MP on them helps a lot, especially since I'm elvaan. Plus, using askar/aurum, you lose 1% haste from each piece, which is 2% lost.
 
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