- Joined
- Jul 8, 2007
- Messages
- 45
- Age
- 38
- Location
- Palmdale
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- Secondary Job

- Third Job

- Server
- Quetzalcoatl
- Linkshell
- Noizy Tribe/Dumbamis
Now, before I start this discussion, let it be known that I'm not an elitist. I take pride in my own gear (which is usually good, if not optimal in most situations for every job I play, no matter if it's a sub or whatever). I don't expect everyone to have the time or patience to farm Valkurm Emperor/Leaping Lizzy/Mee Deggi/Argus (though the first two are real easy), I just expect you to at least be decently equipped and competent.
Now, this was at around 2 am last night, and I shoulda SS'd and took down names, but I'll just relate a common situation.
I'm in Kazham, I don't want to dual-box solo so I figure I'll lfg whilst reading/studying and if I get an invite, great, if not, no loss. So I get kinda excited when I get a tell asking if I want a party. I agree, and as usual, check the list to see what we've got setup. First warning sign: Red Mage with an under-leveled sub job. Now, I think that by the time you hit Kazham, you should take it upon yourself to at least have your subjob to 16, if not 18. The jungles are already pretty painful.
So I think, well, maybe it's not that bad. Then I /check the guy, and it's just abysmal. Not a single piece of +mp, one +1 mnd ring, and random main armor. No back, no belt, no ears, no shield, no nothin'. But invisible is an important enough spell to buy over armor, I'm sure.
We have someone else who is clearly new to the game (that very airship to Kazham was his first airship ride), and was better equipped than this guy. He at least tried. I like new people, and it's always fun to tell em about the cool stuff that isn't just leveling, and give em advice.
So I'm thinkin one horribly gimp person and one newbie can't be that bad. And then I check the thief. Nearly the same story as the Red Mage, lack of gear, and the gear he does have doesn't really benefit him. I held my tongue and just logged.
I really wanted to say something, but I was tired, and didn't want to get into it with one of those "It's my $12.95!" people that try to justify not needing gear or subjobs. This topic isn't really flaming or calling out anyone (if it was I woulda named names and had screenshots at the ready) but if the mods want to move it to the flameboard it works there as well I guess
Just wondering, when do you guys consider someone to be 'gimp', and how do you deal with said people? When is it ok (if ever) to be naive/ignorant about your gear/subjob? I figure by Kazham, you have a notion of how the game works (the new guy in the group was very quiet, but I could tell he at least got what was going on), and should have your sub leveled, and decent gear.
Now, this was at around 2 am last night, and I shoulda SS'd and took down names, but I'll just relate a common situation.
I'm in Kazham, I don't want to dual-box solo so I figure I'll lfg whilst reading/studying and if I get an invite, great, if not, no loss. So I get kinda excited when I get a tell asking if I want a party. I agree, and as usual, check the list to see what we've got setup. First warning sign: Red Mage with an under-leveled sub job. Now, I think that by the time you hit Kazham, you should take it upon yourself to at least have your subjob to 16, if not 18. The jungles are already pretty painful.
So I think, well, maybe it's not that bad. Then I /check the guy, and it's just abysmal. Not a single piece of +mp, one +1 mnd ring, and random main armor. No back, no belt, no ears, no shield, no nothin'. But invisible is an important enough spell to buy over armor, I'm sure.
We have someone else who is clearly new to the game (that very airship to Kazham was his first airship ride), and was better equipped than this guy. He at least tried. I like new people, and it's always fun to tell em about the cool stuff that isn't just leveling, and give em advice.
So I'm thinkin one horribly gimp person and one newbie can't be that bad. And then I check the thief. Nearly the same story as the Red Mage, lack of gear, and the gear he does have doesn't really benefit him. I held my tongue and just logged.
I really wanted to say something, but I was tired, and didn't want to get into it with one of those "It's my $12.95!" people that try to justify not needing gear or subjobs. This topic isn't really flaming or calling out anyone (if it was I woulda named names and had screenshots at the ready) but if the mods want to move it to the flameboard it works there as well I guess
Just wondering, when do you guys consider someone to be 'gimp', and how do you deal with said people? When is it ok (if ever) to be naive/ignorant about your gear/subjob? I figure by Kazham, you have a notion of how the game works (the new guy in the group was very quiet, but I could tell he at least got what was going on), and should have your sub leveled, and decent gear.
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