HundredMillion LS. Hopping servers with aspirations to "Dominate Quetz".

[Amerie]

I'm sorry, been trying to follow "As the Bullshit Turns" this past week and I'm starting to draw blanks on wtf is supposed to be going on here.

1) We know these asshats bot. Implied, straight declaration, hearsay, or whatever, it's common knowledge. I get that.
2) They didn't "dominate Quetz" as was in their mission statement from the outset.

Here's what I'm having difficulty understanding.

Does Amerie identify with these people? Does she expect the (QCDN-representative) server populace to make nice with them? Or is she just acting as a self-appointed "mediator"?

I hate to draw this parallel also, but why is Amerie acting like Vandoura during the height of the "innocent player hacking incidents"?

Please answer fast, because I'm really having trouble trying to follow wtf she's on about.

Signed,

A Concerned QCDNizen

No no, not at all. Don't read too much into what I'm saying.
I was saying, I would have no problem with them if they didn't cheat. I hate that they use third party tools and I hope those who use them, get banned and I will do everything I can to help with that even if I have to report them 1000 times.

It's a touchy subject and I'll probably get flamed for it but I was simply saying, I did notice before all botting and etc, as soon as they simply "appeared" they were already getting flamed and etc. Simply for just coming here with the desire to be in endgame and people were attacking them. I'm not defending them, I was just saying I personally thought some people acted a little too immaturely towards some of them before they even started getting involved with endgame. Which in my eyes, wasn't really a mature thing to do. It probably wasn't a smart thing to add but I thought I would be fair and add that observation.

As for the rest, I don't really see anything wrong with communicating with people intelligently to resolve conflicts. If people could come together more and discuss things, specifically shells like this, who come to Quetz to become active in HNM, maybe they aren't familiar with the "way quetz does things". I myself am not from here and It took em some time to get used to the way and understand the way you guys do things. I never did what they are doing but nonetheless the server is a bit "Different" than most.

Talking to people, communicating with others calmly and respectably, however naive it may be; is a more effective approach to dealing with "new comers" than harassing and becoming part of the problem. Now im not saying most of you are doing that nor do I care. Their cheating and cheaters get what they deserve, however, I think it does nothing but fuel it as well as set a bad example.


They wont be the last server transfer bot LS to come to Quetz. I can tell you that right now. More will come. Quetz endgame is so underpopulated it is so easy to get king gear. Most servers have such overpopulated HNM scene.

QCDN is a very nice social tool and keeps this server "close" together. We all know each other. Reporting cheaters is always the first thing you should do and even reporting several times. Hence in my signature, Im encouraging people to click that link and report members of PP for botting. Anyone who is associated with them and claiming or even not claiming. Anything suspicious. If they aren't doing anything wrong, they don't have anything to worry about and shouldn't take it personally.

This is going to sound very naive and maybe even stupid but another effective approach to dealing with LS' like PP or any LS that comes into Quetz to be apart of endgame, maybe if leaders of shells, particularly the ones active in zilart, toau Kings and what not should make agreements between as HNMLS leaders to ensure endgame stays a more fair, fun and drama free environment. I think something like this, as well as reporting suspicious behavior in game can help filter out the majority of people who believe they deserve to have a better advantage over another player, who is playing fairly and by the terms of service.

 

[Amerie]

I do like your avatar though btw I should pick up that series

Why thank you sir.

Its great. My all time favorite Anime. I love, love Blood+!

The most amazing story. ;D You would love it!

Cheers to you kind sir^0^

 

[Tristam Green]

This is going to sound very naive and maybe even stupid but another effective approach to dealing with LS' like PP or any LS that comes into Quetz to be apart of endgame, maybe if leaders of shells, particularly the ones active in zilart, toau Kings and what not should make agreements between as HNMLS leaders to ensure endgame stays a more fair, fun and drama free environment.

Naive, probably. Stupid, not so much. In a perfect "world", this would have been the case long ago.

However; this is a game where individuals are rarely *really* held accountable for one's actions, where an entire zone is a hotbed of self-perpetuating drama and serious business, and where, in the name of 'competition', leaders and linkshells will dick each other over at the drop of a hat...just for a few bytes of data. It's really sad when one thinks about it, but it's a lot easier for someone outside it to see it that way.

In response to "why doesn't Quetz like server xfers?", considering the earlier precedents on QC with server transfers (i.e. hackers, botters, jumpers wreaking havoc on server economies simply 'because they can' a la Alecto), you can't really blame them for being skeptical, if not unwelcoming, toward server transfers. Sure, innocent folks get caught in the crossfire, but that's just the natural order these days...

I think something like this, as well as reporting suspicious behavior in game can help filter out the majority of people who believe they deserve to have a better advantage over another player, who is playing fairly and by the terms of service.

It exists, it's being used, and to great effect.

 

[Amerie]

Naive, probably. Stupid, not so much. In a perfect "world", this would have been the case long ago.

However; this is a game where individuals are rarely *really* held accountable for one's actions, where an entire zone is a hotbed of self-perpetuating drama and serious business, and where, in the name of 'competition', leaders and linkshells will dick each other over at the drop of a hat...just for a few bytes of data. It's really sad when one thinks about it, but it's a lot easier for someone outside it to see it that way.

In response to "why doesn't Quetz like server xfers?", considering the earlier precedents on QC with server transfers (i.e. hackers, botters, jumpers wreaking havoc on server economies simply 'because they can' a la Alecto), you can't really blame them for being skeptical, if not unwelcoming, toward server transfers. Sure, innocent folks get caught in the crossfire, but that's just the natural order these days...



It exists, it's being used, and to great effect.

They are gathering an alliance at Khimaira (I-8 Caerdirva Mire from the "Nyzul Isle" staging point).

They will bot it most likely. They botted the Cerberus yesterday. I forgot to adjust my filters so I didn't see who was claiming/casting on it but I have them adjusted now and I encourage anyone who wants to bare witness to their exploits to come out and also help send reports.

I'll post the names of their Claimers/Casters when it spawns so whoever cares enough about this serious issue can help send reports to the special task force.

 

[Moink]

They are gathering an alliance at Khimaira (I-8 Caerdirva Mire from the "Nyzul Isle" staging point).

They will bot it most likely. They botted the Cerberus yesterday. I forgot to adjust my filters so I didn't see who was claiming/casting on it but I have them adjusted now and I encourage anyone who wants to bare witness to their exploits to come out and also help send reports.

I'll post the names of their Claimers/Casters when it spawns so whoever cares enough about this serious issue can help send reports to the special task force.

Call a GM and has them observe the camp for 3 hours?

 

[Ata]

Hundi claimed cerb yesterday, i thought hes your friend? idk maybe wrong ;s

 

[Kalas]

if you call everyone casting on a mob a botter, you would be one too i assume? not everyone who gets to start casting on a pop automatically bots, lol

 

[Ata]

No offense to you Amerie, but you need a heavy understanding on how bots work before you start saying these things.

 

[Amerie]

I read your forum and based on what on there, It's safe to say you did bot Cerberus.That wasn't even the first time. I am a flawless claimer. I have personally claimed many HNMs myself. I'm not stupid but based on the many things on your forum. From Botting Adamantoise to Tiamat, a Useleess day 1 HNM and one that has 97 total windows It would be safe to say you pretty much will bot anything.

I don't know how bots work because I've never and never ever will use one. I dont approve of them, I dont like them, I dont use them and people who do get the ban stick.

 

[Spalko]

is it even possible to have drama free in endgame? i am sure people want gears for themselves too.

people cheat all the time to get items or money faster, in game and real life, and they will continue to cheat until they got caught.

like tristam green said, in an "ideal world", LS being respectful to each other, and that only limited to "ideal world" only. sucks FFXI isnt an "ideal world" where everyone look out for other people. best people will do is look out for members of their LS.

drama free in endgame is impossible, all you need is little greed on items. if LSs does come together and work things out, what is the guarantee that the other will honor it? i am sure problem will rise soon when 1 LS getting most of the claims.

 

[Ata]

I dont know why your under the illusion that SE care about anything other than money though, and by now they've figured out that banning botters will lose them more than just letting it go and having one or two people go /emo and quit. Servers are full of botters, this one less than others however were not the only ones that have access on this server and its obvious that others do use them, why have you never started anything on HA or AK? We bot no more than them, for some reason you assume that we all bot, which is far from true, anyways i wont be posting here anymore, in respect to Bavaria.

 

[Tristam Green]

I am a flawless claimer.

Truly a bold claim, Amerie. If you get outclaimed by any non-botting LS, your success rate is less than 100%, and a 100% success rate in anything is the very definition of "flawless".

I'd be a little more selective in terminologies, lest you want some flak being thrown your way from myriad directions.

 

[Myrrh]

Hey Amerie, don't message me asking why I don't like you. I don't like you because I think you have some sort of hidden agenda with this whole campaign of trying to stop those botters retards. You've been trying way too hard for no reason at all.

 

[Tristam Green]

Hey Amerie, don't message me asking why I don't like you. I don't like you because I think you have some sort of hidden agenda with this whole campaign of trying to stop those botters retards. You've been trying way too hard for no reason at all.

That's her modus operandi, and it almost got her GM'd when she did it to me when I was mid-party, nigh on two months ago.

 

[Moink]

I dont know why your under the illusion that SE care about anything other than money though, and by now they've figured out that banning botters will lose them more than just letting it go and having one or two people go /emo and quit. Servers are full of botters, this one less than others however were not the only ones that have access on this server and its obvious that others do use them, why have you never started anything on HA or AK? We bot no more than them, for some reason you assume that we all bot, which is far from true, anyways i wont be posting here anymore, in respect to Bavaria.

If they actually cared about money... they would've left RMT plague the game dumbass. But you're right partially. They do care for the money. Up until they just feel like banning you or said rmt. Get off your damn "high horse"... it's nothing more then a rocking horse...

 

[Myrrh]

That's her modus operandi, and it almost got her GM'd when she did it to me when I was mid-party, nigh on two months ago.

Smartass and your big confusing words. D:

 

[Amerie]

I can confirm they did not bot Khimaira. They had an alliance there and it was unclaimed for 5 seconds before I claimed it with poison. Either Ata or someone is encouraging the botting to stop or the pressure from this thread and QCDN is scaring them into reconsidering using third party tools.


Either way, it wasn't botted so thats a start I guess.

 

[Ata]

Ive told everyone to stop use, took it off app and removing sections from forum, ive done what i can, chose to believe or not i dont care because i know the truth~ peace out.

 

[Amerie]

I don't like you because I think you have some sort of hidden agenda with this whole campaign of trying to stop those botters retards. You've been trying way too hard for no reason at all.

What possible hidden agenda could I have lol? I have no reason to want people to stop botting? Do you even play anymore? I mean I have nothing against you, and I'm not being disrespectful, I'm just wondering if you have actually been online and been around whats going on.

What better reason could any player have for not wanting someone someone to bot against them? How about spending hours camping to lose it Via tools?

 

[Grandphoenix]

RIGHTEOUS FURY!