Hypocracy and deceit had a child. It's name was Jamal.

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Agreed. Since you bring up the Kabrina situation...

Let's dive into it shall we. Jsoft offered to combine our dynamis ls's to better both of our chances at finishing our relics. Since we were running with about 15 people, our ls collectively decided it would be in our best interest to join.

This was my mistake in the situation. Jsoft used this opportunity to begin bribing people away from Element to join integral, including having Johnnyb (the reason Kabrina 'quit' my ls to join integral) give our entire collection of upper tier Sea pop items to Integral to guarantee his spot there. Fygla told me to talk to Jsoft about it, Jsoft told me to talk to Fygla about it. Of course neither of them knew what was going on. This was also 2 weeks after Heidegger's botting of Fafnir where he was THF/WAR and provoked every 30 seconds the entire fight from half-way across the Room in DA...not stopping until he eventually died.

I did get upset at people that left for Integral(is) because of the circumstances they joined under. Frankly, if you did your research, you'd realize it wasn't Jsoft you should have been following (oh wait, Jayc...forgot Jsoft was banned), rather myself. Because you chose to go with him, the leader you got a relic for quit 1 week after obtaining it.

Good choices made by all, cheers.
 
jamal said:
Agreed. Since you bring up the Kabrina situation...

Let's dive into it shall we. Jsoft offered to combine our dynamis ls's to better both of our chances at finishing our relics. Since we were running with about 15 people, our ls collectively decided it would be in our best interest to join.

This was my mistake in the situation. Jsoft used this opportunity to begin bribing people away from Element to join integral, including having Johnnyb (the reason Kabrina 'quit' my ls to join integral) give our entire collection of upper tier Sea pop items to Integral to guarantee his spot there. Fygla told me to talk to Jsoft about it, Jsoft told me to talk to Fygla about it. Of course neither of them knew what was going on. This was also 2 weeks after Heidegger's botting of Fafnir where he was THF/WAR and provoked every 30 seconds the entire fight from half-way across the Room in DA...not stopping until he eventually died.

I did get upset at people that left for Integral(is) because of the circumstances they joined under. Frankly, if you did your research, you'd realize it wasn't Jsoft you should have been following (oh wait, Jayc...forgot Jsoft was banned), rather myself. Because you chose to go with him, the leader you got a relic for quit 1 week after obtaining it.

Good choices made by all, cheers.
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Because Element is where now? And why bring up Heidegger? Oh right, need to add useless information to make your story credible. Since we're on the subject though, lets recall all the names listed on that bot list a year ago and correlate the dates with Element's lifespan. Yah, your members botted, but you obviously don't know anything about that, do you?

And there is a huge difference between quitting the game and quitting an end game activity after obtaining items. Nor do you really have any position to talk on that matter, some of your close friends did the very same or worse. Right, Rappa?

As for the sea items, thanks, I do appreciate them. Whatever they were, I'll take them for payment in wasting my time.
 
Lavi said:
Because Element is where now? And why bring up Heidegger? Oh right, need to add useless information to make your story credible. Since we're on the subject though, lets recall all the names listed on that bot list a year ago and correlate the dates with Element's lifespan. Yah, your members botted, but you obviously don't know anything about that, do you?

And there is a huge difference between quitting the game and quitting an end game activity after obtaining items. Nor do you really have any position to talk on that matter, some of your close friends did the very same or worse. Right, Rappa?

As for the sea items, thanks, I do appreciate them. Whatever they were, I'll take them for payment in wasting my time.
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Giaganta: Quit and joined another ls, downloaded bots after quitting.
Johnnyb: Quit and joined integral(is). Downloaded bots two days after quitting.

Good try though. There's so much fail in these flames it isn't even funny anymore.
 
jamal said:
Giaganta: Quit and joined another ls, downloaded bots after quitting.
Johnnyb: Quit and joined integral(is). Downloaded bots two days after quitting.

Good try though. There's so much fail in these flames it isn't even funny anymore.
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Oh shit, Giaganta's in Integral now isn't he?

Damn doesn't that suck Lavi.
 
Sorry for the third post, just have to say if there's any legitimate flames that actually need to be responded to rather than bullshit like all of these have been, let me know in some other way. I'm not checking these threads anymore.
 
jamal said:
Sorry for the third post, just have to say if there's any legitimate flames that actually need to be responded to rather than bullshit like all of these have been, let me know in some other way. I'm not checking these threads anymore.
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Bullshit how? Cause Jamal says so? hahahaha.. He said She said. ;)
 
Decidence ring a bell? He was one of your LS leaders no less. I recall quite a few more names on that list and even a big douch trying to defend cheating. That was you, wasn't it?

I also recall you making statements that using windower and it's plugins is nothing short of cheating. You use that windower and it's plugins. So basically every time you call someone out on anything, you do it not because it's morally objectionable or wrong, but because it impacts you negatively. If those same players were to be doing those morally objectionable activities while being members of your group; however, you have no problem with it. That make you a giant douche with sand in your vagina.

Make no mistake about it, if any of those people or anyone else for that matter cheated in my presence, I would not hesitate to have them removed, unlike you, who would more than likely reward them or at the very least keep them around long enough to use them for all they're worth. See this is the difference between you and me, I actually live by a moral code while you just dictate like an arrogant ++++ to everyone that moral code, but ignoring it yourself.
 
single issue with an equipment turn into war of history O_o

is it hard to ignore jamal if you dont wanna deal with him? never had any encounter with him before so i dont know
 
Oh and one more thing. Its proven fact that you changed Visitor msg's of people you dislike. So I'm pretty sure that isn't bullshit. Its not very many posts back where I laid it all out for everyone to see... and to think, you actually wanted to be a mod loooool.

At least one of your allies PM'd me during that whole incident(VM changing) to explain it wasn't him when I had narrowed it down to you two. I'm sure you can figure out who it was. We pretty much made peace after that.

You on the other hand were too much of a pussy to come clean.
 
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Oh and one more thing. Its proven fact that you changed Visitor msg's of people you dislike.
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you have tried to bring this issue up every way you could and no one has responded to you once. when are you going to figure out that no one cares about your e-romance?
 
jamal said:
Asking my ls members to refrain from posting in any of these threads anymore. Enough is enough, and the amount of reaching for something to flame is really getting bad.

SnB will no longer respond, including myself. If you have something to say to us, take it up with me ingame
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Just saying
 
Falsey said:
you have tried to bring this issue up every way you could and no one has responded to you once. when are you going to figure out that no one cares about your e-romance?
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Has nothing to do with my "e-romance" as you put it. It has to do with showing everyone how much of a douche bag your little cuddle buddy is. I mean the dude has never said one thing to me ingame. He's a fucking coward if he needs to go around changing peoples VM's.

Just getting that point across that it isn't "all bullshit flames".

Oh and for someone who rips a new asshole into people in other flames for using the "friends defense" you sure do a great job of using that defense yourself. "omg guyz leave my e-buddy alone, gosh"
 
Nycon said:
Has nothing to do with my "e-romance" as you put it. It has to do with showing everyone how much of a douche bag your little cuddle buddy is. I mean the dude has never said one thing to me ingame. He's a fucking coward if he needs to go around changing peoples VM's.

Just getting that point across that it isn't "all bullshit flames".

Oh and for someone who rips a new asshole into people in other flames for using the "friends defense" you sure do a great job of using that defense yourself. "omg guyz leave my e-buddy alone, gosh"
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i never told you to leave him alone. you can say whatever you want to him. when did i use "the friend defense" with jamal? hes a big boy and he can handle it trust me.

im just saying no one gives a crap about your issue thats all
 
Falsey said:
i never told you to leave him alone. you can say whatever you want to him. when did i use "the friend defense" with jamal? hes a big boy and he can handle it trust me.

im just saying no one gives a crap about your issue thats all
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It's not, nor was it about his issue. It shows how Jamal feels he's in control of these forums and the dick he can be.

I like Jamal on FFXI but when it comes to Jamal on QCDN... he's waaaay different and much of a hypocrite when he can be. Hooray for Sanctioned user group!
 
Falsey said:
i never told you to leave him alone. you can say whatever you want to him. when did i use "the friend defense" with jamal? hes a big boy and he can handle it trust me.

im just saying no one gives a crap about your issue thats all
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Yet Jamal is "done responding to bullshit flames" and here you are still posting. :crazy:
 
Falsey said:
you have tried to bring this issue up every way you could and no one has responded to you once. when are you going to figure out that no one cares about your e-romance?
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e-romance got me read only for 5 days. It's apparently serious business. He is completely justified in having a problem with this shit though because the simple fact is it happened here on the message boards. As far as Jamal thinking the multiple people coming from "no where" to flame him as all bullshit... Well, simple fact is that we all know who is and who isn't lying about shit. We know who has been upfront and who hasn't. He posted earlier in this thread (dunno if his post was deleted) for me to post everything and not "bits and pieces." If you don't think I posted everything, I'll give you my fucking account info. He's a lying fuck, simple as that. He can't even defend himself because he has no where to go with it. Even if he did... can we trust him? So he has his friends come defend him. I had a small portion of e-lationship bullshit in my original post, and a name reference. If that's attacking him RL and this whole thread is attacking him RL, read again. Obviously you're lacking comprehensive skills. However, I hope that you continue to aimlessly follow him until you're eventually treated poorly or burned. Maybe you'll be in his good graces for defending him here, maybe not. I don't care.

As for AuronX, Grandpheonix and GunnerX, the butt buddies who take turns deep throating Jamal so they can feed off of the e-peen as long as possible. First off, GunnerX had the audacity to question someone else's integrity. Please view the pic I posted of Zethren's PM to Jamal. Please note two names there, AuronX and GunnerX. Please note what they did, and if you don't remember the BS jamal's posted on these flames then I implore you to re-read them. There's some serious contradictions going on between everyone. As for Grandpheonix, well... If you remember correctly, he was big member of BoL. Do I really need to get into their past or reputation? Either way, so long as papa keeps these three fed they'll be here to defend him. That much is clear as day. Only problem is, the things you say and the things you do are fairly contradicting. I'd feel bad about getting a bit of the spotlight off of Jamal, we all know how much he loves it, but you guys went ahead and jumped right in anyway. Seeing what you've done and what you've said are so different, it does make me realize one thing. You absolutely are meant to be with Jamal. He may be more of an extremist in the sense but you definitely proved to me he's not quite one of a kind. Thanks for shitting on my overall opinion of society.



I'll post a bit later as to concluding my flame on Jamal. I'm just happy to see the incredible amount of support I received for this post, and that other people are very willing to step to the front lines and speak their mind and experiences involving him. If anyone was hurt in the crossfire, I do apologize from the bottom of my heart. I also do apologize to Jamal for crossing the line with the e-lationship section of the original post.
 
Kotsu said:
Grandpheonix, well... If you remember correctly, he was big member of BoL. Do I really need to get into their past or reputation?
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Also, when I was in BoL for the 2 1/2 ish years they did nothing flame worthy so I fail to see the relevance of that. Also I didn't say anything against you or really in defense of Jamal. I defended LS policy and said we wanted our Zahaks mail back. I take that back, I said maybe not in this thread but in one of these recent failures that I wondered why Hollie couldn't speak for himself and you had to play white knight and eventually he finally did, thats only statement directed at you.
 
Grandphoenix said:
Also, when I was in BoL for the 2 1/2 ish years they did nothing flame worthy so I fail to see the relevance of that. Also I didn't say anything against you or really in defense of Jamal. I defended LS policy and said we wanted our Zahaks mail back. I take that back, I said maybe not in this thread but in one of these recent failures that I wondered why Hollie couldn't speak for himself and you had to play white knight and eventually he finally did, thats only statement directed at you.
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True that. Was part of bol in that time and even for more and yet we did nothing flame worthy.
 
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