I am NOT your personal slave.

I don't get help tells anymore because i'm never on my smn anymore,heh. Friends though I have a hard time with.. I mean I used to be very easy to convince to go do something, but now I've been leaning towards noish. Makes me feel bad of course, these are people I know well and some even who have helped me in the past.

But eh as has been said I got things to do, and in this case is speed level rdm to 75. Taking a slight seista.. one more level to go on blm before I go crazy again.. staying up late and getting on extra early, xp xp xp. Lol
 
Uzor is the man, he helped me get AF1 back in the day.

Although I get on average 1 help request a week, I try to do my best to help regardless of who it is. Never had any bad run-ins with nobody, or is it that im extremely intimidating? :twisted:
 
ultraseven said:
i stopped helping a long time ago to ppl i dont even know. i dont even bother responding back anymore 'cause it's annoying.
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I really dont seek help very much from people I do not know with quests I try to do things through freinds and/or LS, and only being lvl 32 I dont need help with alot of things, but it really irks me when people just don't respond at all, if you say you are busy I'll be fine with it, no problem. Obviously some people would get pissed off, and be little bitches, then you can just blist, but its nicve to at least get a response so you know that they are not interested and not afk or something.
 
I respond when I'm at the computer.. but I'm not always at the keyboard XD and upon checking my tells when I get back I get some tasty responses cause I didn't talk to them when they were talking to me.. so.. meh
 
Mattaru said:
ultraseven said:
i stopped helping a long time ago to ppl i dont even know. i dont even bother responding back anymore 'cause it's annoying.
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I really dont seek help very much from people I do not know with quests I try to do things through freinds and/or LS, and only being lvl 32 I dont need help with alot of things, but it really irks me when people just don't respond at all, if you say you are busy I'll be fine with it, no problem. Obviously some people would get pissed off, and be little bitches, then you can just blist, but its nicve to at least get a response so you know that they are not interested and not afk or something.
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obviously, you dont know how it's like... being only a lv.32 and all. not trying to be high and mighty or w/e just 'cause of my level, but.. i'm done with replying... cause i've replied to SO MANY in the past.. i'm just done. even if i'm busy or i'm not... read my sig pls.
 
I agree. Before I ask for help for anythign I do I always make sure I know what needs to be done, and I look for other people who need it done first. I did all my missions up to rank 10 by getting people who needed it also to help, and only a few people who didn't to come a long. When I did my af I did the majority of it by myself or with others that needed it. Genkai 1 and 2, i dragged alliance of equal level people who needed them along. these days people just shout in linkshell or jeuno for a high lvl help to do it for them.

these are my pt peeves from people who ask for help.

1. They come to you first instead of making a pt of other people who need the quest. This is why I dont help with Genkai or Missions.
2. They have no idea what needs to be done. Yeah, I really enjoy playing the game for you....
3. They ask you to help them get a drop and forget to mention that 3-5 other people need the drop too...
4. They say other people are coming to help also when thats not true and you become part of a party who isn't strong enough to complete the task but are urged to do it and die in vain...
5. They dont do the neccesary solo work ahead of time (talk to npcs, open the quest, do the solo travel work)
6. They tell you they're in a xp pt or they're busy doing something else when you're ready to go...
7. they want to just sit at the zone while you do all the work...
8. they only send you a tell or pop into the ls when they need help...
9. they ask you help and then expect you to ask your friends to help them instead of getting other help themselves.
10. they act like idiots (aggro everything in sight, or are unprepared - no invis or sneak items).
11. Dont bother to tell you that the event isn't happening or is already done until you show up after getting ready and traveling for 10-30 minutes.
12. Dont say thank you....

I never charge people I know for help, and have only recently started charging strangers (1 time only, someone shouted for help with a coffer with a reward). The next day i saw a shout for help with a coffer in jeuno from someone i didn't know and i asked for a reward. They responded with "can't you remember a time when someone helped you?" and wanted me to do it for free. I responded with "I helped 10 friends get a coffer key this week alone." Really, if you can't get help for a coffer key that means you haven't helped enough people in the past to earn the help in return. And if i dont know you asking for some gil for my time is my right. You want to get a coffer key without taking the time to arrange a pt to kill for keys for everyone and you want me to get it for you using my time in 10 mins so you can save a few hours of your time? If I dont know you you bet its gonna cost you gil...
 
Ya know U7...I DO know what it's like. Mainly cuz word of me helping travels between people and everyone assumes I'll help anytime. But jeez, ignoring is rude. No matter how annoyed I get, I'll at least respond to the person. This way they don't have to sit there tapping their fingers, wondering what you'll say.

It's like when you make a party and someone ignores you instead of telling you no. Everyone hates that.
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Cythe - Rank 10
Hume Male
73 Paladin
 
ThatGuyYouKnow said:
Ya know U7...I DO know what it's like. Mainly cuz word of me helping travels between people and everyone assumes I'll help anytime.
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This is oh so true, I was skilling my GS up one day and a war comes in and asks for help with his boots af quest, he was well aware and very prepared, which is why I helped out, about 15 minutes later, every freaking war and there grandmother asking me to fight this quest again!
 
You have no idea how many times U7 is asked though... -_- I think he has a right to upright ignore people he doesn't know at this point >> and it's getting to that point with me >< and I have never charged anyone for anything.. the only time I got money for helping was Shadow Lord fight and I didn't ask for money... I love fighting that guy ^^ just wish I could easily remember the route. Anyways... what Ayeka put up on that list is basically what really Urks us the most.. and people do it over and over and over again
 
which is the point of this thread >.> I don't want to make people pay for help. But I might have to if they come unprepared, and don't behave.
 
Elemmire said:
You have no idea how many times U7 is asked though...
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You sure about that? I get asked a real freakin good amount of times a day. Me and Jared were talking about it today. And not all of the requests are like "Please help me with ____." Today I got one with an awesome opener.

"Hello????"

I know what it's like. Mainly because, like Log backed me up on, I help enough people, who tell other people, who tell their LS...Etc. I get over 3 requests an hour, and I'm not exagerrating. Hell, I've been asked for help while on a job that's not even my main. I still take the time to just politely decline(Unless they are an asshole about it).
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Cythe - Rank 10
Hume Male
73 Paladin
 
yes, it IS rude to ignore...

but it's also rude when you kindly help someone for free, to take time from yourself to help someone else... then a few days later, same person keeps asking for assistance... and it just doesn't stop. like they EXPECT help from you just because you helped them that one time.

and it's not hard to just say "i'm sorry, i'm busy right now" WHICH i've done most of the time... but i'm just tired of typing those first few letters, hitting tab to bring the translation, and hit enter. it's lazy, yes i know.

then they have the audacity to read my search comment, which will say "i'm sorry, i'm busy right now" and STILL ask for help.

you can give an example like IRL... a stranger passing by to say "hello" and you smile back and say "hello" also, sure, it's easy. but behind a monitor, doing your own thing... i honestly don't owe a damn thing to anyone that i don't know.

if you disagree w/my Cythe, then that's YOUR decision. just like how it's MY decision to not answer back.

i'm happy for you that you help ppl, that you decline requests.. big UP TO YOU.

i'm done.
 
but it's also rude when you kindly help someone for free, to take time from yourself to help someone else... then a few days later, same person keeps asking for assistance... and it just doesn't stop. like they EXPECT help from you just because you helped them that one time.
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I have to agree with U7 on this point. This do happen, a lot.

I also agree with Cythe on his big opener thing. A siple "hi??" is common
 
hehe.. I've been invited to help.. a blind invite.. it pissed me off.. but let's just cut this short

Higher levels don't mind help just be polite and whatnot to us and we won't bitch about this... ><
 
Now I know I'm not exactly a high level, but that is kinda what the problem is. I hate when I'm running around and someone I know asks me to help them with G1 or something. Now I'm only level 54, so I can't really do anything by myself. If I say no, people usually get made and say that I should help them. It doesn't make any sense. I usually end up helping though just because I feel bad.
 
Uzor said:
I also agree with Cythe on his big opener thing. A simple "hi??" is common
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and that's how they get you, hahaha... thinking maybe they wanna say "hi" just to be friends, then say "want to pt?" or whatever, then... after you say "hi" back, they ask "i need help" lmao... funny.

but that's just a bad way of putting it. oh well.
 
Ok sry i'ma go solo fenrir now ; ;
(Btw this was not pointed to Uzor but my next sentence is.)

Btw I don't know how many times I said it.... well maybe I said it once but I say it again.

Thank you very much Uzor for helping me kill all the avatars!!!! (But for Leviathan and Fenrir) /bow /bow /bow /bow
 
SlizenDize said:
Ok sry i'ma go solo fenrir now ; ;
(Btw this was not pointed to Uzor but my next sentence is.)

Btw I don't know how many times I said it.... well maybe I said it once but I say it again.

Thank you very much Uzor (And Goshi too ofcourse!) for helping me kill all the avatars!!!! (But for Leviathan and Fenrir) /bow /bow /bow /bow
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Damn it I thought I edited but now I realize there is no edit button!!! X(

Anyway I was adding Gosih to the tyvm list.
 
During the times I need help, I simply ask if they're busy, and if they are I'd end it at that....too bad they've always, always, always been busy. Why are the noob-assholes the ones who get help? -_-;
 
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