I quit. (post of the year)

[Eulore]

This thread is made of win.

 

[Uzor]

lol wow many hypocrites {Found it!} Some of them hiding now?

Where is Uzor btw >.>

And umm.. Chasym, I have to admit,.. thanks for the links lol

Just... wow.

And yeah Meeze, mmm didn't think that about Uzor, you know. Now all the truth has been revealed

I've been sleeping And if you check in that forum, yes. I had access to it. You'd also see the only thread I posted in was the "GM's can see if you use Windower?" forum And that was before i tbecame password protected. Before that you needed special access on it. I knew a lot about hacks since Chasym told me what they were working on in their little group. ask Chasym, he can tell you I never signed up on any of the hack download forums

Only time I ever "hacked" was when I wanted to solo Bugboy ENM. I asked Proph to log on me and get me past that damn bridge since I couldn't find 4 people to get me past it =/ Sadly I had forgotten my AF's that time and died due to not having over half of my gear, lol

Edit: on another note, I did ask for the bots they used to know what they are using. But I never used them myself. I also asked Proph to not use speed hack when he's logged in to me because I don't like cheating myself (except the other time when I was desperate and wanted past that god damn bridge -.-).

 

[Uzor]

Actually, come to think of it... I don't think Chasym ever sent me any of the bots. He did always provide me with a working version of Windower though ^^ Always looked up the memloc locations for tparty and distance etc. to work Although I do think Proph sent me a bot once before he got the one he paid 100 bucks for. But I don't think it was a very good one since they never claimed anything anyway, lol. I usually stood up top of the Fafnir room in case of spike flail and I had to raise people down below

In their defence, the people that used to use hacks don't do it anymore. And if they do its subtle enough for me to not notice it. Granted I rarely do events with them anymore due to my rather limited play time, other then the occasionall J'lo and prudence/fortitude. All of the people who used to hack have been suspended once, and they don't feel like getting their characters banned xD And no matter what you say (I've seen it used before), no. you can't flee kite Love in a circle. Why would you anyway? lol

 

[neophytal]

lets see. first off, i speak for ME, and not my linkshell. second, you guys are disgusting. hahaha. read this post for ownage.


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part#1:

first statement in OP:

Did Outerheaven cheat?
YES OF COURSE OUTERHEAVEN USED HACKS.
I was their supplier for gods sake. Every hack they had came from me, except that one proph paid 100 dollars for and it worked like shit. But thats besides the point. im not going to go around and name individual members that hacked, but a majority of that shell hacked after i joined. in the beginning the shell created after OH hacked some too, but eventually all that was halted and a strict rule put on hacking in the shell.
everyone in OH that got banned, was banned for hacking and nothin else. no matter what they say.
your assumptions were true, and to those who didnt know where they standed on the OH matter, theres all you need to know from a high ranked OH member and the supplier of their hacking.
Those who got caught just used them stupidly, and deserved what they got. i voke botted, only when i was with OH.
Did they hack in dynamis, probly. i wasnt there the night in question, but most convos with members after the fact were about how much hacking WAS done that night.
Man pere, you pissed alot of people in OH off with that, i remember lol. fun times.

**later posts in this very thread**

You realize how fucking stupid you sound?

Really is a shame that it turns out we have the master hacker of FF on Quetzelcoatl and we're so far behind other servers still. I'd rather that people were more open about their hacking and a lot of our shells be done with 3 kings than all cloak-and-dagger and stuck in this lameness.

've been sleeping And if you check in that forum, yes. I had access to it. You'd also see the only thread I posted in was the "GM's can see if you use Windower?" forum And that was before i tbecame password protected. Before that you needed special access on it. I knew a lot about hacks since Chasym told me what they were working on in their little group. ask Chasym, he can tell you I never signed up on any of the hack download forums

Only time I ever "hacked" was when I wanted to solo Bugboy ENM. I asked Proph to log on me and get me past that damn bridge since I couldn't find 4 people to get me past it =/ Sadly I had forgotten my AF's that time and died due to not having over half of my gear, lol

Edit: on another note, I did ask for the bots they used to know what they are using. But I never used them myself. I also asked Proph to not use speed hack when he's logged in to me because I don't like cheating myself (except the other time when I was desperate and wanted past that god damn bridge -.-).

**old quotes from previous threads which make the above statements hilarious**

I think that people who get all hot and bothered over people using 3rd party programs in ways that don't effect others negatively need to re-examine their priorities in life. It's almost like criticising me for cheating on Grand Theft Auto cause I love to run around murdering people and don't like collecting guns on my own. Just how I see it.

So.... your friends are still hacking to get you nice gear?

...cool

That's a fairly ignorant assumption considering my situation that you're apparently completely unaware of.

Cheating is cheating, bub. Don't argue semantics, argue that there are different kinds of cheats.

I think people aren't hypocrite(although many are) as much as people are just plain silenced. We all know so many tolerate it yet I'm the only one actually willing to explain why I just plainly don't give a shit.

Oh tell me oh knowledgable one, how I personally benefited from hacking.

So you can believe whatever the hell you want, but I've never benefited from any hacks personally and to be honest they've caused me quite a bit of personal distress.

You'll have do define "widespread" and remember I was in OH since back when we killed out first Fafnir a long time ago. If nothing else it was used towards the end when the LS was in a state of slow death. The fact that people used 3rd parties was because if nothing else we had too few(example: Kirin with 17 people). In my mind OH died 6 months before it really died, when Prophecy disappeared - me and all the older members stuck around cause the newer members were going to get fucked out of gear they had worked hard for. Honestly, if I don't really give a shit about 3rd party on any level except that I won't use them because I don't want the general community to blackball me for it, then to bail out on a LS that's dying and members who just barely have enough people to kill kirin to try and finish off the sky lists unsuccessfully is pretty scummy.

So like I said, if you want to define "wide spread" I'll have to question the greater view in that the time you are trying to focus on contained maybe 5% of our actual events and of that anything illegal was used I'd wager 20-30% of the time.

Should I have refused to continue going and just quit? Some seem to think so. Given the same circumstances, I would not change anything. They were my LS so I stuck to the end, and that's not something I'm ashamed of, that's who I am, period. Maybe one day the chips will be down and you'll be faced with hard decisions yourself, maybe not. It's however important to stay true to yourself not to what others tell you to do.

It wasn't the linkshell using cheats at all events, or even many members like you make it sound, It was a select few, using cheats at a FEW events. Mainly the ones we had too few people to actualli kill. As Firestreak said, Kirin with 17 people. The other gods not involved, as we didn't kite those either way.

But that's just me, someone who prefers inconvieniance to cheating.

actually, Being from OH. ive heard nothing like this in our shell....ever.

Pretty widespread"? Mind quoting exactly who said that? Because its nowhere near widespread.

I've heard from friends within OH that nowadays "they cant kill a mandy without hacking." Obviously thats an exaggeration, but it sounds pretty widespread to me.

Do you honestly think that Kaizen is the only LS who can kite something without cheats? We do it all the time. We don't cheat during everything we do. We might have cheated doing some things when we seriously lack the people to do it, but I didn't keep my eyes open for that since I'm usually too busy doing other things.

quote from Uzor's thread:

"So in the end, it doesn't matter if they cheat or not, they are and will be my friends, and thus I don't really care if they cheat or not, even though I don't agree with it. I won't leave my friends behind because some of them want to depend on "shady tactics". "

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part#2 of post:

i shall say, that grayswander, to accuse my linkshell of wanting to steal your "precious absolute virtue" but previously discuss about training and stealing our omega's... i give you the middle finger salute. you're scum, exposed, lalala etc.

reference:
http://outerheavenls.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=10&sid=80bbd2daf0e11f1283ad9c38daa8437e

-It seems to me then, the next step is to farm an Apollyon Northwest as usual, but have either Cyronae, Chasym, or myself attempt to locate an Omega (If it is up) In Apollyon Central meanwhile, half way through the run. That way we can both research this in private, and also not waste a run waiting to see if we can drag Omega to the camp or not, being obviously, we'd need the entire Limbus time to successfully defeat it. We can declare needing to go AFK or something for the sake of being incognito. If we can get Omega to the camp, great, Next run we can attempt to kill it, if not, we'll still have had a fruitful Apollyon Northwest run.

Chasym said it requires additional and I don't have enough savvy to make POS do everything I want. I would rather see if others tried it rather than having one of us try. Just feels safer that way.

Do you really think a GM would ever monitor a Limbus zone like that? I find it unlikely, but it's your call. If it's out there, I'm sure Chasym and I would find it.

Well...if worse comes to worse; Kaizen will go fight Proto-Omega and we can steal it...LOL.

While were at it, I may as well train Ultima and a bunch of NM baddies onto Kaizen, while our group kills their Omega privately^^ If theyre all dead they won't be able to make a GM call in time! what do you think?

to grayswander* you're a flaming idiot. a joke.
to cyronae* ive really lost all respect for you. how disappointing.


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part#3

when i come back, if i find out it was due to hacks. BESIDES windower, im done hacking guys. Cold turkey.
I got a girl i love and im gettin married to in this game that i cant let down like that.
If it wasnt for her i wouldnt give a shit.
Im done hacking at least until the wedding.

then its gonna rain shit. you hear me SHIT!!!

this is just pure LOL. =x

I know who gave OH the hacks, LOL.

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part#4

to whoever asked if darienn hacked

reference:
http://outerheavenls.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=219&sid=80bbd2daf0e11f1283ad9c38daa8437e

the flee tool fix doesnt seem to work for me is there a new fix out?

 

[delsus]

So many quotes

 

[Blackmagik]

man this is 100% win, and damn, id love to hack and get dalmatica and all that shit ill never get, but, im to damn stupid to and dont wanna lose my char, so legit4tw

 

[Uzor]

Well, Chasym would know best. Personally I only knew of 3-4 people who hacked other then Proph and Chasym. Our linkshell had about... 32 members? So no, based on that, I wouldn't say 5-6 widespread. But Chasym was the ones who provided them with hacks, so he would know best, no?

And like I said when you quoted me, no. I don't actively look for people who hacked in the linkshell. Those that I know was those that openly talked about it. I'm usually busy refreshing and curing etc. And like I also said, we didn't cheat on anything we did. And lately they haven't been using cheats much at all, atleast at the few events I attend.

Chasym knew who cheated in the other linkshells. I know people in other linkshells hack too. I want to know what people use, so I wanted to know what the hacks could do. I also wanted to know how the hack development was going, and Chasym often talked about that. If you bothered reading the forum you'd see the only thread I posted in was about Windower, since that's what I use. And I do believe the majority of the PC players use it.

As for Darienn, I can tell you right now that she don't hack to the extent you make her out to do. She more often then not plays without Windower on. Hell, she even DC's when you send her messages on AIM when she forget to turn that off due to not having Windower active.

man this is 100% win, and damn, id love to hack and get dalmatica and all that shit ill never get, but, im to damn stupid to and dont wanna lose my char, so legit4tw :grin:

Yeah, I don't want to lose my character either xD That's one of the reasons I don't hack myself

I refuse to give up Windower though. So the day Windower goes is maybe the day I quit.

 

[Chasym]

Just spamming the enter key, I cast on Fafnir fairly consistently when he pops in the same area. Casting too early or too late are both common. I don't hack to do it.

Before the update that added the delay in claiming, Kaizen had I think a grand total of 2 claims over several months of trying. If our players were using hacks, they sure weren't working. After the update, and up to know we seem to get about the same percentage of claims as our percentage of the total people there, so I believe the update fixed the advantage of latency/bots.

A really wide range of our players have claimed Fafnir since then. I don't believe that all of these people are using hacks to do so. In two years with Kaizen I've never seen any evidence of hacking or cheating of any kind (apart from basic Windower, if you're going to count that). If it is happening, it isn't general knowledge in the shell, and the leaders of the shell have very strong views against hacking/stealing/cheating of any kind.

Again, if I haven't stated it before, these are my personal views. I don't (and never have) spoken for the shell...

the thing is in ROOM FULL of botters, only one can win. i know, ive used a bot many times and have been out claimed the instant it spawns like mad.

Wow. So not only are you outing people left and right, you are telling us how you actually write these fucking programs and distribute them.

I don't Understand why everyone in this thread is sucking your dick over it though. You are one of the assholes that keeps this game from being fun for those of us that actually play fair. Thanks for helping to fuck up a game that I really enjoy. Too bad your not good enough to actually do anything in end game that you did. Cheater.

All these people saying "at least you admit it", or "thanks for outting a bunch of cheaters"...

Naw. At least you quit. At least I don't ever have to look at your sorry ass in game anymore.

All hail Chasym, the reason SE changed Archer's Rings to BCNM only drop.

no man i coded one program, a long long time ago. Im also NOT the reason SE changed it to BC only, i spent 5 days in ordelles claiming stroper over the RMT, i came back sometimes every few months until an update rendered my program useless and i really didnt care enough to fix it, and never did. Two other programs i helped code, that really dont do anything to harm other people in the game. If anything, on any other program i just gave my input. But there hasnt been a program by me in FFXI for about 3 years.

Wow, this thread is comedy gold! And if Jamal hacks then his hacks totally blow cause he's never claimed anything for us and definitely hasn't speedhacked anything we've kited, rofl. Of course I'm assuming this was all before I knew him but I still have my doubts. The funny thing about this thread now is basically Chasym has became a witch-cryer, and now he could say anyone in the world hacks and you guys would believe him. Oh well, hopefully he'll be honest.

my best friend IRL said that too, which is another reason why just dropping name after name would be kinda pointless.
and my knowledge of jamals hacks were back when i first joined OH some time ago.

I'll believe it fully when I see IP addresses.

thats fine, i dont keep a list of IP adresses layin around for months let alone years, hell why would i even make a list. Once you see it, you remember who it was. there will never be a list of IPs, sorry

100% agree.

No surprises here, except maybe the sheer extent of which he went to hack the game. But hey, if anyone is capable of being this dickless, it's Chasym. Don't forget this is thread of the year. And don't forget his cool website, Chasym.org. lmfao

He's always been a piece of shit.
Take a good look at a piece of shit next time you see one. You won't expect it to change its ways or anything. It's shit! You'll just expect it to be a piece of shit, forever.

What a fucking jackass.

i may be a POS but id bite my tongue sneaky, you werent exactly innocent either. remember most people who would get pissed had their hands in the pot too.

FYI...first kill of a KB for me at all was in Kaizen or after was Last week. I never fought KB while in kaizen...Don't fuckin tell me I cheat. I called you out for cheating, and shit, you finally now admit it. Go sit on your thumb and twist with good ole cyroflee and grayhacker, but gtfo saying I hacked. This is as lame as when firestreak accused me masa and alm of hacking....

yeah accusing me of hacking makes it cool, i could GTFO saying you hacked but i would be lying and this thread is about coming clean.

QFT lol

Actually the funny thing is, I don't think I've seen Chasym at Fafnir or Aspid more then a combined ten times. And I'm there way too damn much.

Maybe lolBehemoth?

with oh i went maybe 25-30 times, a couple with Rise and thats about it

Which Kaizen camped a maximum of 3-4 times my entire stay there...Chasym, you're a shithead, your hax couldn't get you to be the best, and your jealousy still goes on even after you say you quit. Grow the fuck up.

lol what am i jealous of, you?, kaizen? certainly not and as i said before, i didnt use hacks for personal gain, and the method hacks run...as you would know, Wouldnt really be able to make you the best at anything.
If it was OH kiting kirin with flee hacks, or lolbahamut. or it was OH voke botting a land god, it certainly obviously didnt make them the best at anything. Amirite?
When majority of endgame hack, you have hacks against hacks. One will always come out on top even if its the exact same thing.

No he wasn't cool. Read the first post in this thread. The guys an ass, exploiting cheats.

damn whos jealous now?!

Im not a psycologist but Jamal the way your talking is kinda a "tell" on what the truth really is.

but he has a right to defend himself as i did on any occasion i was accused. i would deny it up and down too, i didnt want anyone to know or think of me different,
as this post at NT forums clearly shows how easily you can lie and get anyone who knows you in game to believe you.
http://noizytribe.myfreeforum.org/ftopic1317-0-asc-0.php (dunno if you gotta be a member to read that)
no one who still wants to spend time playing is gonna admit to it. It would create a wall for them, so they will defend as much as they can when accused. Its how it has always been, you see it almost everytime someone gets unfairly "Caught" in a ban (i didnt do it! i was legit!! just windower!!!)
at least thats what its like here. On the hacker forums everyone, under a different alias, just comes out and says they hacked. didnt see one windower excuse there. even i blamed windower, knowing it wasnt the truth.
no one will admit they do if they still play, im surprised i must say to see some admitted they even did once in this thread though.

He's throwing out lies and being treated like a god after admitting to cheating. People need to wake the fuck up and realize just like his 4 years of gameplay, this post is not worth a dime because he's manipulating people's thoughts just like he manipulated the game. Chasym's a douche, plain and simple, and I for one am glad he's gone.

if i wanted to throw out "lies" id have implemented plenty more names eh? the names people keep begging for but as you can see what a result of any name would bring.im not manipulating anything, ive stated all truths so far. i have nothin left to hide to this server anymore. but do you jamal, have something to hide? like i said, its just a game. its not your freakin life. get over it. "chasym was a low life IN THE GAME, he wasnt worth nothing IN THE GAME, he hacked so hes not even worth your breath!!"
while that could be true, It was just a game...and i wasnt worth anything in the game the moment i came in and the moment i left, hacks or not.

#1 Because I called him and fellow LSmembers out in front of all the members of the LS before they entered dynamis-windy...
#2 He knows you will believe without proof.
#3 QCDN knows Drama, he knows I have a short fuse. Calling me out = Drama, which is obviously why he started this thread.

that was the only time i had words with you, was at that dynamis. we talked about your hacking my first week in OH when we tested you out in the dominion with sinhard. thats around the time one of the big OH threads was going on and everyone was all pissy about anyone naming you guys out to hack. this doesnt stem from your accusations to my dynamis shell. but it certainly made it a good reason to implement you again.

I even called out you and your shell (your shell was implemented by cyronae when she sent me a tell saying "Ask him about how his shell gets all their stuff and see what he says") on hacking, and you guys flipped. you know, you were out there accusing us of hacking and all that stuff, so we accuse the hypocrit before us and i got your whole shell and some members who were in our dynamis mad and flippin out on me, till i asked them to think about it and think if they ever saw anything suspicious with you before they flipped on me, tells grinded to a halt after that statement.
I called a GM and went on with my dynamis.

Revenge? Boredom? Why'd he link to the OH hacker forum? I have no idea what his motives are, but now that he's called out a few he pretty much has the ability to do whatever he wants and his word's gospel to most of the people who post here. He wouldn't even need proof anymore now that he's proven the OH hacks (of course, everyone already knew about these people anyway so kinda too little too late). He could just say "Yeah, so and so hacked. Don't have my logs anymore, but you know I'm being serious."

never had logs, not just slinging names out there either tho. if i really just wanted to cause mass chaos before i left, i coulda did what everyone wanted and posted a list of people i didnt like, but i refused to just do that as its no point in making stuff up.

1# It seems a lot of people called him out as a cheater prior to today and not all are guilty of hacking. Chasym didn't claim all those people who called him out as hackers, just you.

nice point in #1, i HATE peregrine, more so when he was accusing OH than anything. I literally wanted (along with prohecy and many other people) wanted to fly out to his house and beat the shit out of him, Yes as stupid as that sounds...it was discussed. But you know what, he didnt play hypocrit. the guy played clean and im not gonna lie and say he hacked.
Same goes with eleibfrid, pissed me off to great extents trying to reveal me in the above thread and other locations of conversation but im not going to say he hacked just cause he pissed me off.
What you did outside of dynamis to piss me off was quite minor compared to those two guys.

Perhaps this is why we are so far behind other servers. Cheating is as detrimental to everyone else as it is beneficial for the one that does it.

its like this on every server, you should see most hacking sites populations. its sick.

And having Cyronea who you defended so earnestly create half the threads in that H4x Forum made mine. =D

ROFL!!!!

Hey she defended me for a reason. Its because i never hacked! Thats right boys and girls; I guarantee you that chasym does not have my IP address. He apparantly has jamal's though. So yes, this made my day. And if it made your day too bigboy, thats cool. Im glad your happy.

your right, i never checked you or had a reason to, never suspected you and cant say you cheated.

I know who gave OH the hacks, LOL.

OMG DUDE!!! i remember when that was posted wanting SOOO badly to ask who?! i just wanted to see if he knew soooo bad lmao!!

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part#3



this is just pure LOL. =x




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part#4

to whoever asked if darienn hacked

reference:
http://outerheavenls.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=219&sid=80bbd2daf0e11f1283ad9c38daa8437e

The reason i said if it was anything but windower i was done, was because at that point in time...i very rarley used anything if at all, because i didnt do anything anyway. I exp'd smn and hung out with some friends, didnt camp anything or do events besides dynamis. and i had someone begging me to stop all hacks so i wouldnt get banned, so i did even tho i didnt wanna. and i swore that the day she quit i would hack like mad again...but when she quit i didnt care about hacks anymore lol.

Well, Chasym would know best. Personally I only knew of 3-4 people who hacked other then Proph and Chasym. Our linkshell had about... 32 members? So no, based on that, I wouldn't say 5-6 widespread. But Chasym was the ones who provided them with hacks, so he would know best, no?

And like I said when you quoted me, no. I don't actively look for people who hacked in the linkshell. Those that I know was those that openly talked about it. I'm usually busy refreshing and curing etc. And like I also said, we didn't cheat on anything we did. And lately they haven't been using cheats much at all, atleast at the few events I attend.

Chasym knew who cheated in the other linkshells. I know people in other linkshells hack too. I want to know what people use, so I wanted to know what the hacks could do. I also wanted to know how the hack development was going, and Chasym often talked about that. If you bothered reading the forum you'd see the only thread I posted in was about Windower, since that's what I use. And I do believe the majority of the PC players use it.

As for Darienn, I can tell you right now that she don't hack to the extent you make her out to do. She more often then not plays without Windower on. Hell, she even DC's when you send her messages on AIM when she forget to turn that off due to not having Windower active.



Yeah, I don't want to lose my character either xD That's one of the reasons I don't hack myself

I refuse to give up Windower though. So the day Windower goes is maybe the day I quit.

if i saw you hack uzor, i admit it was rare. tho you did ask often about hacks, where to get them, what they do and that you would only get them from me because you didnt trust hack sites.
ALOT of people in OH hacked, Proph, Silversurfer, hihoshi, Quitita, Darienn, Cyronae, Algarius(was most obvious hacker i ever seen), Glade, Kireek, Uzor(like i said, limited at best but still did), myself, Deathchild(who was recently going to buy mattaru's character he had listed on ebay long before anyone knew he was going to quit, i dont know what happened with that transaction tho) and really its just a list of almost every member you could think of in OH, not EVERY member did but a big majority.

The most things in common is most of them got banned for it, Kireek, Silver, Alg, glade.
Algarius used to warp to a far of spot of a zone, Claim an NM thats usually in aggro range of alot of mobs or was in a tough position to fight, and warp back to us...waiting in a safe spot and have us fight it there.
When we did swift belts, we fought the NMs in the painting room used for the CoP cutscene, and the mobs would take off running out of nowhere, through the walls and run around the entire zone and come back either through the ceiling, or another wall.
why? because mobs are not meant to be in those rooms by game code and design, the whole time the mob was in the room the game was telling it "your not supposed to be here" and push it out.
it was humorus to see a Taru fomor hot tail it when its getting pwnd lol.
alg did that sort of thing all the time, thats why he got caught so easy.
what i never understood is how SE let proph get away with murder, they would catch him and let him go...ALL THE TIME. he even hacked out of GM jail when he got caught flee tooling in diarama ghelsba or whatever, he kept warping out and passing out all his items to everyone in OH just incase he got banned so he could come back to his items and make a new character.
He ran from jail 3 or 4 times and they still let him go.
thats sad.

 

[Uzor]

In case somepne decides to quote me while I'm writing this, I decided to make a new post when it comes to Darienn and OH. And take my word for this, considering I'm one of the few people who have been with the OH people since the first day it started. I was one of the first people Proph invited. So I've been there through pretty much everything.

For a long time, no one in OH hacked. Back then, we were at our strongest. We were one of the first NA LS's to CC the JP. And please, Kaizen, stop taking the honor for "destroying the JP monopoly". You guys were a bunch of pussies who thought it was better to take the pieces of bones the JP LS's decided to throw to you for not CC'ing them. After some time, Proph took a break from the game. This was almost exactly a year ago I believe.

Proph decided to take a break from the game. During this time we didn't do anything since people only seem to have listened to Proph. We had many cancelled events, and due to this, we lost a lot of members. When Proph came back, he noticed we didn't have the old member base we used to have. Somehow, he found a flee hack. I don't know how, I just know that he started speeding up on Kirin's etc. and gettign to places faster then other people. At first he kept it quiet, and at first I thought it was lag since it was only a bit faster then Crimson Legs. Later on, a few other people started doing it, and they talked about it on Vent.

Anyway, fast forwarding. Eventually Darienn used it too. I was quite sad to see her use this. And I do believe I know the reason for why she did it.

No offense to Darienn, but she's probably one of the nicest people on the server. She have a hard time saying what's on her mind, and have a hard time saying no. I'm sorry to say, but she's rather easy to manipulate. She refuses to use Windower most of the time, but at some points when Grays and Proph wasn't on, someone who will not be named asked her to use flee hack. Having a hard tiem saying no, and trying to always avoid conflicts as good as she can, just don't see a reason to say no. Yes, she did use flee hack at some point, I have no idea how many since I was usually not logged on to vent unless I was specifically asked to logon vent. But I do know she tries to avoid conflict since I've talked to her in tells and on AIM about it.


So before you jump down her throat about it, do realize that she never do most things because she want to. She's just too nice. (no offence Darienn).

 

[Rips]

Theres only like dozen people on there. The only ones from QCDN i recognize are : Reynard, Grayswander, DevilFoxx, Quitita, Mirewen, and someone named "Lego". Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Someones prabably trying to frame him.

 

[Sharpe]

Anyway, fast forwarding. Eventually Darienn used it too. I was quite sad to see her use this. And I do believe I know the reason for why she did it.

No offense to Darienn, but she's probably one of the nicest people on the server. She have a hard time saying what's on her mind, and have a hard time saying no. I'm sorry to say, but she's rather easy to manipulate. She refuses to use Windower most of the time, but at some points when Grays and Proph wasn't on, someone who will not be named asked her to use flee hack. Having a hard tiem saying no, and trying to always avoid conflicts as good as she can, just don't see a reason to say no. Yes, she did use flee hack at some point, I have no idea how many since I was usually not logged on to vent unless I was specifically asked to logon vent. But I do know she tries to avoid conflict since I've talked to her in tells and on AIM about it.


So before you jump down her throat about it, do realize that she never do most things because she want to. She's just too nice. (no offence Darienn).

Knowing Darienn from Vent (albeit not for very long) this really does sound like what would of happened involving her.

 

[Uzor]

if i saw you hack uzor, i admit it was rare. tho you did ask often about hacks, where to get them, what they do and that you would only get them from me because you didnt trust hack sites.
ALOT of people in OH hacked, Proph, Silversurfer, hihoshi, Quitita, Darienn, Cyronae, Algarius(was most obvious hacker i ever seen), Glade, Kireek, Uzor(like i said, limited at best but still did), myself, Deathchild and really its just a list of almost every member you could think of in OH, not EVERY member did but a big majority.

Well, can you mention any time I hacked? Yes, I did often ask about hacks. I was interrested in what hacks was out there and what you were able to do about it. And I didn't trust hack sites because I don't like downloadign third-party software in case it contains keyloggers etc. So I asked you for them sicne you had all the safe ones.

But I do ask you, did you, or anyone else, see me hack, ever? 'cause the only time I personally "hacked" was when I asked Proph to warp me bast the bridge to get to the bugboy ENM. If I ever flee hacked past that point, it was Proph playing me for events (even though I specifically asked him not to use any hacks while palying me, but what can you do?)

The most things in common is most of them got banned for it, Kireek, Silver, Alg, glade.
Algarius used to warp to a far of spot of a zone, Claim an NM thats usually in aggro range of alot of mobs or was in a tough position to fight, and warp back to us...waiting in a safe spot and have us fight it there.
When we did swift belts, we fought the NMs in the painting room used for the CoP cutscene, and the mobs would take off running out of nowhere, through the walls and run around the entire zone and come back either through the ceiling, or another wall.
why? because mobs are not meant to be in those rooms by game code and design, the whole time the mob was in the room the game was telling it "your not supposed to be here" and push it out.
it was humorus to see a Taru fomor hot tail it when its getting pwnd lol.
alg did that sort of thing all the time, thats why he got caught so easy.
what i never understood is how SE let proph get away with murder, they would catch him and let him go...ALL THE TIME. he even hacked out of GM jail when he got caught flee tooling in diarama ghelsba or whatever, he kept warping out and passing out all his items to everyone in OH just incase he got banned so he could come back to his items and make a new character.
He ran from jail 3 or 4 times and they still let him go.
thats sad. __________________

and LOL, yeah... I was quite surprised to see Proph constantly warp out of jail etc. and never even get so much as a suspension, lol.

 

[Chasym]

Theres only like half a dozen people on there. The only ones from QCDN i recognize are : Reynard, Grayswander, DevilFoxx, Quitita, and Mirewen

well reynard wasnt in OH, he was in NT. and devi and mirewen i think didnt come in till antares, maybe devi was in OH for awhile before that, left and came back, i cant remember much if he was.

but a hack went out to any member OH deemed trustworthy,and usually they were happy to recieve and said nothing. I never saw a "OH GAVE ME A HACK" thread.

 

[Chasym]

Well, can you mention any time I hacked? Yes, I did often ask about hacks. I was interrested in what hacks was out there and what you were able to do about it. And I didn't trust hack sites because I don't like downloadign third-party software in case it contains keyloggers etc. So I asked you for them sicne you had all the safe ones.

But I do ask you, did you, or anyone else, see me hack, ever? 'cause the only time I personally "hacked" was when I asked Proph to warp me bast the bridge to get to the bugboy ENM. If I ever flee hacked past that point, it was Proph playing me for events (even though I specifically asked him not to use any hacks while palying me, but what can you do?)


and LOL, yeah... I was quite surprised to see Proph constantly warp out of jail etc. and never even get so much as a suspension, lol.

seen ya couple times in sky, pos into kirin, flee past me a couple times. but i never knew proph played you either, like i didnt know a few people playing now are old members once banned on other accounts.

 

[Rips]

Well that's good, but does that mean they were all hackers? Including that "Lego" guy?

 

[Uzor]

seen ya couple times in sky, pos into kirin, flee past me a couple times. but i never knew proph played you either, like i didnt know a few people playing now are old members once banned on other accounts.

That was probably Proph playing me then ; ; bastard >.< I asked him not to flee hack when he was on me ; ;

And yeah. I gave Proph and Kireek access to my account os they could dual-box me at events since I had school and you did things when I was asleep. So I gave them access to my account so I could be usefull while not there. Tec had access too for a while. Dunno about Grays, but maybe xD Although I don't think so.

 

[Rips]

I remember Kireek. I became friends with him the first week i joined.

 

[Chasym]

Well that's good, but does that mean they were all hackers? Including that "Lego" guy?

already said not every single member was a hacker, just a majority.
Nah lego was cool, legit but i cant say he didnt suspect or know at some point what was going on in his shell, we didnt exactly keep it too secret some times >.>
people like those listed in previous post, rikumaru, raduhadu. dont even know if they play anymore, Firestreak (till he left the shell anyway near the time of the issue that destroyed finalheavenx and created aequitas.)
even grayswander as we know.

one person i would like to point out that wouldnt hack no matter how much pressure was put on him was aldiel. You couldnt get that guy to hack for anything, he creeped me out with his talks of jesus sometimes, but hes probly the only hardcore solid non hacker i knew, never even would try it once.
tho it doesnt excuse second hand hacking with other people using them,
I will say he was probly the most honest guy i knew and i say that cause he shouldnt be included in the list of OH hackers.
and TEC, omg tec was like a 10 year old when he got hacks, its like he couldnt control himself with them and just keept clicking buttons...that dude hacked like mad and yeah of course got caught, 2nd most obvious hacker i knew.
it was so bad prophecy begged me to never give him another hack or update his when it stopped workin.

 

[Uzor]

Well, Glade did it stupidly. He accidentall hacked his way in to a BCNM area and couldn't find the coordinates to get out of it. So he called a GM on himself xD

 

[Chasym]

Well, Glade did it stupidly. He accidentall hacked his way in to a BCNM area and couldn't find the coordinates to get out of it. So he called a GM on himself xD

yeah i remember asking why he did that...when he had a warp cudgel on him AND a warp scroll...he really screwed himself over there lol.
ive gotten stuck before too, i got stuck in one of them see through lookin fuzzy wall things in sea, and i couldnt get out no matter what i did.
I remember begging cyro to come warp me cause i was wide out in the open.
then i remembered...i had a cudgel lol