if you were a designer for SE....

[Bajaratt]

or if not give rdm vorpal blade fix savage blade ws.

Or, they could just ignore the one person who wants to give RDM a boost without a single good reason. Yeah, let's just go with that.

 

[Calais]

when did I ever say rdm should sub war. If sword was highest skill weapon then yes, but it not staff and dagger is.

Actually, red mages don't have any staff skill.

we do gear swap still does not mean we get the best mage gear like kire said. If he means we get best mage melee gear then maybe, but we are the only mage that even has melee potential.

Uh, what about blue mage and whm/nin? The only mage that can't melee worth a crap are black mages (and rightfully so).

rdm handle both side (not as good) After all rdm is jack of all trades master at none.

Red mage is the enfeebling master.

Blm are not made for enfeb yet blm has much more enf option, then rdm has elemental gear. Also I disagree with that statement anyway. Rdm was meant to be the in-between mage job that can fill many different roles in a party it the stigma and stereo type of the player that made them so limited in potential.

All the elemental magic gear in the world will not make you into a black mage. You'll still have less MAB gear and only tier 3 spells. I have two enfeeb merits, macro in HQ staff, igqira pants, igqira tiara, AF body, spider torque, and master caster's bracelets for my black mages enfeebling gear. Even then I can't sleep, silence, gravity, whatever some stuff nearly as well as a red mage could.

Savage blade isn't exactly an awesome WS, but it looks badass and you can do light SC's with it. I know red mage isn't the bestest job ever, but seriously, we have it pretty damned good.

 

[hellstorm]

Actually, red mages don't have any staff skill.

reread I was talking about brd.

Uh, what about blue mage and whm/nin? The only mage that can't melee worth a crap are black mages (and rightfully so).

that why said maybe. Rdm get alot sutible mid to light gear, also access to good daggers and good swords.

Red mage is the enfeebling master.

well yes and no. Ninja enfeb in alot of ocasion are better then are (pre merit)

All the elemental magic gear in the world will not make you into a black mage. You'll still have less MAB gear and only tier 3 spells. I have two enfeeb merits, macro in HQ staff, igqira pants, igqira tiara, AF body, spider torque, and master caster's bracelets for my black mages enfeebling gear. Even then I can't sleep, silence, gravity, whatever some stuff nearly as well as a red mage could.

Savage blade isn't exactly an awesome WS, but it looks badass and you can do light SC's with it. I know red mage isn't the bestest job ever, but seriously, we have it pretty damned good.

who said anything about wanting be good as blm? I be happy to get 900 or even to hit 7-800 constantly istead of getting resisted as much.

Or, they could just ignore the one person who wants to give RDM a boost without a single good reason. Yeah, let's just go with that.

that funny because I said same thing about monk JSE

 

[Vandoura]

GM lv.1 AF as a WAR AF2? lol

 

[Celvantes]

GM lv.1 AF as a WAR AF2? lol

It would look cool, to say the least.

 

[Marajade]

that funny because I said same thing about monk JSE

Thinking isn't your strong suit i take it.

 

[Bajaratt]

that funny because I said same thing about monk JSE

First, I'm not the only one interested in monk JSE(just about every monk is); you're the only one in this thread who's tried to make a case to give rdm's more meleeing power.

Second, I don't want to become even more broken than I already am; I just want some unique armor that no other job can wear, good stats(defensive preferably) would be nice, but honestly I don't care what's on the gear.

 

[Courtney]

well dalmatica is overrated. the 40 hp mp and 10 int mnd is much better then 50hp>mp refresh +1. Now if only crimson didn't intimidate you around demons and dragoons. Blm are not made for enfeb yet blm has much more enf option, then rdm has elemental gear. Also I disagree with that statement anyway. Rdm was meant to be the in-between mage job that can fill many different roles in a party it the stigma and stereo type of the player that made them so limited in potential.
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You really have no idea what you're talking about, do you...

 

[Courtney]

RDM do not need a big MP pool, they can get it up quick. WHM only cures? You most of been in a party with some shit WHMs, and some shit BLMs.

Whats the point of a big MP pool if you are on /heal most the time? Resson a BRD does not go into full MP gear till got all the possable refresh stuff, there is no need for a MP of 1000 etc. Just have a higher auto refresh and you can do more in the time then justbe on /heal also you forget RDM gets convert to much MP = a bad convert to little is wasted HP

...and like wow... do you play RDM at all either?

 

[K. Ishitar]

Hmm how about some fresh meat to tinker with


Puppetmaster a job that pulls the strings of their pets the puppet but what about the mob?

ja's

15 "Insert name"- Allows to the puppetmaster to inflict/damage the target with the effect of gravity (a type of "bash" basically with same timers)

25 "Insert name"- Allows the puppetmaster to slow down the tp gain rate of the mob with a technique recast 1:30mins(or 1min?) duration varies

more later cant remember the rest(as usual...)

 

[hellstorm]

You really have no idea what you're talking about, do you...

which part? if about crimson and dalmica, While the damatica whould be better in party where rdm is main healer, the crimson body be better where rdm is the enfeb. also with someone like me where my mp and hp are so close together I can use more +hp gear then mp gear. I would like to have both but if I had to pick one I'd chpose crimson tabard.

If about secound part Id do belive they where meant for more then what rdm can do now. Giving rdm ws would not overpower them it will just give them a better chance at building good ws melee gear. Savage Blade 1.00 1.75 3.50 2x STR_30% MND_50%
Vorpal Blade 1.00 4 STR_30% Crit Rate

All they have to do is add crit hit to savage blade and it be a half way decent ws.

Mnk has jse it your belts no other job has belts that good.

 

[Skaw]

2nd one you listed overwhelms the monk merit trait Penance. =/

Personally, I think all pets(except charmed ones) should have a reduction in the TP they give mobs.

 

[Skaw]

Mnk has jse it your belts no other job has belts that good.

http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/1885

compared to

http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/1868



http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/4275

compared to

http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/7070

Granted, they aren't as good and are more difficult to obtain, but they're pretty damn close. The reason why I compared Ninurtas to Black Belt instead of Brown, is because I would definitely wear Ninurtas over Brown Belt. -2% Haste, but the Subtle Blow more than makes up for it.

 

[delsus]

2nd one you listed overwhelms the monk merit trait Penance. =/

Personally, I think all pets(except charmed ones) should have a reduction in the TP they give mobs.

But don't pets not check a mobs def?

 

[Skaw]

But don't pets not check a mobs def?

Yes, pets check a mobs def. Otherwise Carrie would be bitchslappning IT's for over 200 damage like she does too weaks.

 

[delsus]

Yes, pets check a mobs def. Otherwise Carrie would be bitchslappning IT's for over 200 damage like she does too weaks.

Heard some were they dd good on hnms etc guess was wrong

 

[Calais]

reread I was talking about brd.

Ya, that one was my mistake.

that why said maybe. Rdm get alot sutible mid to light gear, also access to good daggers and good swords.

You said maybe, then you still said that rdms are the only ones that can melee decently.

yes we do gear swap still does not mean we get the best mage gear like kire said. If he means we get best mage melee gear then maybe, but we are the only mage that even has melee potential.

So why are all these blu's meleeing in exp parties? And how did I watch my whm/nin friend solo a VT mob on more than one occasion? Sure, rdms can solo some tough stuff, but its almost never by meleeing. (And no, giving us vorpal blade would not change that.)

well yes and no. Ninja enfeb in alot of ocasion are better then are (pre merit)

You have got to be freaking kidding me. Ninjas don't get sleep, gravity, bind, or silence. Red mage gets all of those and an A+ in enfeebling magic. Saying any other job can do better or even as good as that is bullshit.

 

[Skaw]

Heard some were they dd good on hnms etc guess was wrong

Erm. Pets were never good DD on HNMs, because you can't boost their stats, like with food for example. Avatars are good, but only because of their abilities, not their melee damage.

 

[delsus]

You have got to be freaking kidding me. Ninjas don't get sleep, gravity, bind, or silence. Red mage gets all of those and an A+ in enfeebling magic. Saying any other job can do better or even as good as that is bullshit.

And they get tier 2 versions what will over ride a ninja's debuffs, showing rdm is better.

 

[Courtney]

which part? if about crimson and dalmica, While the damatica whould be better in party where rdm is main healer, the crimson body be better where rdm is the enfeb. also with someone like me where my mp and hp are so close together I can use more +hp gear then mp gear. I would like to have both but if I had to pick one I'd chpose crimson tabard.

If about secound part Id do belive they where meant for more then what rdm can do now. Giving rdm ws would not overpower them it will just give them a better chance at building good ws melee gear. Savage Blade 1.00 1.75 3.50 2x STR_30% MND_50%
Vorpal Blade 1.00 4 STR_30% Crit Rate

All they have to do is add crit hit to savage blade and it be a half way decent ws.

Mnk has jse it your belts no other job has belts that good.

There is almost no situation where Crimson is the best choice for anything. Most times you are using the INT or MND you are casting on a mob, and at those times the additional -enm of the far cheaper Errant makes it superior (and it's at least equal for other INT/MND uses)

As for MP, Dalmatica provides 200MP/10min while the Crimson provides 40MP/10min.

And RDMs are limited in potential? I don't think there is a job that has the potential of RDM is virtually every area of the game except for damage dealing...

A whm only heals a blm only nukes. A rdm does all the above and more with a 3rd of the mana. Dalmatica is overrated give me a crimsion tabard. blm get hella lot of enf grear, yet rdm bits tooth and nail to get elemental magic gear.

A third of the mana? I have and use more MP than a WHM can regenerate and a BLM can use without dying. Close to double a typical WHM in a HNM type situation. Elemental gear? I think RDM caps out at about +60, although I can't think of many situations where I'd use it (trioing Nidhogg maybe ). Likewise, a BLM can put on Enfeebling gear, but that doesn't help them to compete with a RDM...