Ignorance and Arrogance

Skaw said:
Well, no. That would the same as saying running AIM is in violation of the TOS. Fraps doesn't do anything you can't do in regular FFXI
You mean other than taking screenshots without the copyright notice on them. While I am no lawyer, I am fairly certain that would indeed be against the TOS (as read).
 
Shaidalyn said:
Rofl.
I don't like asshole bst's who take exp mobs.
He charmed the berries, and fought Beetles. Please find out the facts before you assume you ignorant people.
OK seriously ppl get off fucking bst back about this shit you say they take exp mobs,,,, DUH!!! they are getting exp. that party could of moved to high crawlers alot easier then the best could have. but instead you wanted to prove once again that you are an asshole grow the fuck up wind GTFO
 
Astyanax said:
You can believe me or not, but most people here are all bandwagon jumpers and make things seem 100x more than they appear to be.
your calling people bandwagon jumpers but only reason you are here is because you have nothing better to do then follow wind around and give her stuff all day long. truelly the only bandwagon jumper is you and your on her bandwagon
 
Astyanax said:
You can believe me or not, but most people here are all bandwagon jumpers and make things seem 100x more than they appear to be.

Such a pathetic excuse for an argument. I guess everyone who though the halocaust was horrible were all bandwagon jumpers too? I mean, shit, just because everyone agrees that someone is a shithead doesn't mean they are all jumping on the bandwagon. If they would have had no opinion on the situation without reading everyone elses replies, then sure, they just hopped on board. But most people who reploied to this thread came to the conclusion on their own that it was a bad thing to act with malicious intent towards another person.
 
Shaidalyn said:
YES a PT > BST
why? A BST is more versatile.. a pt is not. a BST can go just about anywhere.. a PT is rather limited.. and harder to move.
if

This just shows how ignorant you are, you know nothing, and should stop communicating on this topic. and please, when you exp your RDM next let me know where it will be as I think I might CC your ass to put this into persepctive. I, as a level 72 BST can kill anything I want to, just like you can.

This thread makes things apparent.... you know nothing about BST's at all, you know nothing about mobs in this game at all, and you know nothing of dignity or respect at all
 
Mosts bsts would rather cut their own arm off than share xp space with a party, but since the great mpk nerf, a lot of times they don't have any choice. Many great bst xp camps were ruined by the despawning of pets, leaving bsts no choice but to seek out sites populated by exp parties. I promise that 99% of bsts, had they a choice, would choose to level as far away from traditional exp parties as possible.

It warms my heart to see so many people defend the beastmaster's right to xp in peace.
 
i have to say my favorite people are the really vocal and really stupid ones. they continue to talk, justify, atempt to flame, etc and are only pouring the gasoline all over themselves and handing out matches

whats even better is that these same clowns can't and wont learn from their mistakes, they try to justify their behavior and become even more reknown for thier ignorance all the while entertaining all of qcdn

i think its too bad that qcdn doesn't have everything single person from quetz coming and visiting though because word really needs to get out about these people so they can be shunned, then maybe they might learn that thier anti-social, immature, and ignorant behavior don't mesh well in an MMO
 
Sculli said:
You mean other than taking screenshots without the copyright notice on them. While I am no lawyer, I am fairly certain that would indeed be against the TOS (as read).

Actually, if you hide your chat windows, and bind fraps to the same key as normal screenshot, they'd still have copyright information displayed.
 
I dont understand this bandwagon jumping thing. If you are being and asshole, and admitting to it, why do you think that people that are flaming you are jumping on a bandwagon. I dont know anything about you, but after reading your reply to the OP, i can see for myself that you are not someone I would like to play with in game. Has nothing to do w/ a bandwagon effect, and everything to do w/ how you present yourself.
 
Sirelrohir said:
I dont understand this bandwagon jumping thing. If you are being and asshole, and admitting to it, why do you think that people that are flaming you are jumping on a bandwagon. I dont know anything about you, but after reading your reply to the OP, i can see for myself that you are not someone I would like to play with in game. Has nothing to do w/ a bandwagon effect, and everything to do w/ how you present yourself.

QFT.

Astynax: Whether or not the OP is a complete jerk or not fails to apply. In fact Shaid has in no way stated she had any prior experience with the OP to even so much as justify her actions. The "Bandwagon" reaction is based completely by what she, herself, as typed in "defense". Her actions taken upon him might be poetic justice to you due to what he may have done to you-- but her only reason was that he was a beastmaster. Nothing more. Nothing less.

The only thing that could be considered a bandwagon is the sudden open defense of a BST's rights to exp. Why do most BSTs generally prefer to exp as far away from exp parties? Not because they "have to" or "should"-- but because of mentalities like Shaid's. Even those coming to tell the rest of the "story" express that the BST was not a problem "until" the second party arrived at the camp. In translation: The bst was "not" the problem....

The SECOND EXP party was. If you are at a camp "FIRST", regardless if you are EXPing, Skilling up, leveling an NPC, farming, etc-- you should have priority over those entering the camp. That's just respect. Not everyone has "respect"-- and Shaid openly displays that. Generally though, the second party will arrive (and I've been in parties like these).. and someone will say "O'well, another party is here. Let's try it out. We can most likely out-pull them." Or something to that effect. The end results usually means that either one parties EXP becomes gimped, or both parties EXP becomes gimped. Don't get me wrong, some camps can hold more than one party. Those are not the ones that I am refering to. "That guy's leveling their NPC..." IF that person is there first, he is just as deservant of the area as the incoming exp party. He cannot zone to a new area or he's going to lose his NPC.

Where "courteousness" comes into effect is when the guy leveling his npc or farming willing to say... "Oh, you guys want to exp here? I'll move over there." Or "Hey, we'd really like to exp here and all of the other good exp camps our level are taken, do you mind if we exp here?"

Now the other guy maybe breaking TOS. The only difference is: He's not harming anyone by doing so. Harm none, do what ye will is something that I believe very strongly in. And yes, there is another flame for that, too. As silly as it seems, I saw that script and thought.. wow.. I wouldn't mind having one've those to clock my exp. I guess there is two sides of every coin. Everything that he has showing there I could do on pen and paper, so I wouldn't state that he has an unfair advantage. I might have room to believe that since he does use that program that he might be apt to use others.

And Astynax, as far as sittuation like not being able to get exp because you're a member of BoL... it's a lot like I said with a RDM who melee's. I read some stuff on the boards and then I have a bad experience with a member of that LS-- chances are the next person in that LS is going to be a bad experience, too. Now, of course we know that's not always the case. You're obviously been found to be a very good player. A lot've people are found guilty by association and are simply caught in the cross-fire. I might know a "Good Player" from that "LS" and I might know a "Good Melee-RDM", but when you know so many that are not good at it-- the odds are....

...you get the idea.
 
The Druw said:
Has meeze happened to pass buy yet? I think he needs to add this thread to his "Shaidalyn getting Pwned" Scrap book he's been keeping.

Lol i dont think there is a post where he/she does'nt get pwned. Meeze's scrapbook must be at least 50 pages. Does anyone else notice that when the flames get too hot Shaid/Wind runs away with her tail between her legs?
 
Rhyan said:
Lol i dont think there is a post where he/she does'nt get pwned. Meeze's scrapbook must be at least 50 pages. Does anyone else notice that when the flames get too hot Shaid/Wind runs away with her tail between her legs?
Yes, happens everytime:\ But it can't really be helped, she'll just go to a new one, get pwnt there and leave and then head to a new one, starting the cycle over again. It's what I like to call the Shaidalyn/Windaria migration effect. "Oh, shit, it's getting too hot in here, gotta move to a new flame!"
 
I'd like to see a level 62 RDM train everything in Crawlers' Nest when there are things there that freakin' aggro level 75s.

You may have been helping one friend, but now a lot of people who don't even know you have judged you.
 
Or.. you're all hopelessly pointed in one direction so no matter what I say the point would not get across.
It's called, logic.
Very foreign to this board.. most the people here are so absolutely bent on flaming they can't even read.
Since you all have such a lack in grasp of reality, this will be a long post.
I see multiple posts of giving R2.. Since when did RdM have R2? God you people are blind. I don't talk about myself in third person. Someone ELSE gave him the R2 (fucking DUH) and they still got jailed. when all they did was help.
The Bst was a moron, and the pt did not like him being there. The whm bitched and the pld didn’t want him around either.
The bard is an overzealous bandwagoner, get lost kiddo this isn't a forum for politics. You wont make any friends just by agreeing with everyone.
This entire forum, is a joke to me. I come here because I feel like it and there’s nothing better to do at the time, or I want to check up on some random things.
I come here, because I can, and will. If I want to troll the flameboard a bit once and a while, I will. You can keep your HORRIBLE attempts at flames
"no one likes you"
"you’re stupid"
"you fail, quit"
"you'll get no where"
yeah, noting my flist has all I need/want.. I'm set
I'm stupid? look around, half the people here cant read/spell/think worth a damn, at least I can do all of the above and still remain collected.
fail? never, omg I got 50 people bandwagoning me on a forum my life’s OVER ... not? you people have no impact on me in any way, life or game, and you never will.
no where huh? that’s why I'm set for my game life? I have friends who will help when I ask, and who I'll help when they ask. I got a shell I am proud to be a member of and will have sky within a week.
Expect to see Duelists in the future too. Yeah, no future huh? I have everything I truly need already. I find this forum entertainment. Nothing more.
your flames of "you’re stupid gtfo" are absolutely pitiful. You just show the lack of intelligence you possess when you attempt to flame people the way I've seen here.
Should I have been more courteous? Perhaps. Do I have to be? No. In fact I don't have to even post any of this but, I feel I should.
Actual story 100%:
I went to CN to see a good friend of mine and watch over their PT (CN links aren’t always fun, plus free haste for the tank and skill ups for me). I see a bst charming berries and they are fighting each other, which is cool. Then I see him pull a beetle, and the pt is just standing there for like 10min, waiting on repops.
Your whole "bst nerf" excuse is nothing, did I play Bst? no. Will I? Prolly not. So I do not dare to assume I know the whole problem.. fact is the job was not meant to solo (according to SE <.<.. whatever) so why should I care about a bst killing a pt's exp mobs when he could be lfp? I'd invite a bst... they are really valuable I am told. Plus, I'm not much for cookie-cutter PT's.
I see as follows... bst in a VERY common PT area, 2 and 2 PT's.
I see my friends exp going down. So I decide to poke at pets, maybe give the guy a subtle hint to leave.
His only thing he said was "Cure please" in auto-trans, which I ignored. Not my job to cure random people, plus again, subtle hint.
fact he used AT I didn’t assume he spoke English, so I didn't try to talk to him.
Yes, I know there are 8947357 things I could have done.. guess what, I didn’t.
So the stupid berry keeps sleeping him and the pt.. so I wake everyone up and back off to a corner... linking 2 more.
These things hit like.. nothing. So I am fine with 3, kill one, then the second uses the spin attack, and drops the bst. My fault? no. You all say I shouldn't have been there? Nor should he. Fact is he ended up with an R2 when he didn't even deserve anything. it's no way a responsibility for a whm to raise random people, especially ones bitching at other people in close ties to them.
Then you have the SS's above. Running an illegal program, tsk tsk... and its basically him whining to me about things I don't care about, and lying. The pld told me straight up he was a nuisance and that the whm complained about him before. The GM, gave me a warning and let me out, all of 60 seconds or so in Jail.. oh noes. Told me that I was in there for MPK... lol (I didn't MPK. he was in the way of the mobs move, not my problem.. I wasn't giving it tp on purpose, I was killing it) then told me that anyone has a right to any mob at any time. On which I asked him how that excludes just me from that.. he responded "It does not, however this situation is not your complaint" lol!
funny stuff.. all in all I'm no worse for wear, and this thread has done literally nothing to effect me.. just thought I'd give you all a bit on reality.
And yes, I apologized to the bst.. for the mpk, and how I acted. I am sure I could have been nicer.. but I really don't care.
~
And Stirce, only to you will I say, shut the fuck up you arrogant prick. Asty comes to shed a little light so of COURSE the bandwagoner's gotta get on him too.. funny how you were a "friend" till I bitched at Excim based on info YOU and other LSmates gave me. Some friend? Go to hell. You're the worst kind of person I've ever met. You want to talk about me? Go for it.. look at how you've been. You want to bitch to me? lol... look in the mirror buddy, you’re the absolute lowest of low. Good job with your "morning" way back, and unlike you I won't pop that to public but I wonder if your lady would approve of that? You bring enough personal shit to boards, and I still stay tactful. Baby I could bury you so deep you'd not be able to dig out with a full crew working. You WERE a good friend, and you changed into an egotistical sack of pus. I have so much I could say right now.. but know what? As much as you allllll whine and bitch about me, you know nothing about me, let alone my ability to hold private shit private. And I will, no matter how bad I could twist a few people, I won't. Why? cause you were once a decent person. Thanks for proving all previous theories though. I thought, when we did ZM's, that maybe you'd changed.. actually realized this board is nothing but a joke to me and that you know how I truly was.. I guess not. Keep picking on the ghost though, cause I sure as hell don't mind.
Everyone needs a patsy.. I'll take that gladly. The people who know me in game, know how I am. The people who assume here, never will. And no, it may not be any loss.. but it sure isn't a gain.
So, no, I won't leave QCDN, I see no point, and unlike 99% of you I don't break 80% of the rules every day, so I will stay. Quit? Unlikely ever. Leave Quetz? No. The friends I have here outweigh the whole of QCDN's negativity. I hold no hatred to anyone. Look at Passions, he sat here and flamed away and still came on my Promy run.
This forum? Means nothing.. I say what I feel at the exact moment. I don't think through first (nor does anyone here obviously) so I don’t have time to formulate a diplomatic response.
Do I hate bst? no
Will I ever leave a dead bst in the mud? No.. I'd raise them, cure them, AND ask if they needed a guide back.
have I ever let a bst die from mischarm/links that I was near? No.. in fact at level 54 I died cause I cast Diaga on a level 60ish bst's links.. bst ran, came back and R3'd me and thanked me.
I have no issues on bst.. unless they come to a pt area and snag mobs. Now if there was ONE pt and all went smooth cool... but this is like a pt who camps RIGHT on top of you.. its rude, not many people care if they get MPK'd.

So one thing I will say.. and mean.
I apologize, to the Bsts who assumed this was anti-bst.. I respect the fact you can solo from 1-75, that you dealt with a nerf beating to the face.
However, I do NOT pity you. You earn what you earn, and you guys have been kicked around the whole game.. even by SE with the update.. and you stuck it out.
There are more places to go, he shouldn’t have camped on top of a PT. That's all. I still go out of my way to help most Bsts.. him however? .... yeah, I'd STILL raise him. Common courtesy I guess.
So go on.. find a way to continue this joke of a flame. I've said all I needed to.. and a lot more.
if its garbled or nonsensical I'm sorry, but I'm telling it as I think about it.
 
Bluefrost said:
I'd like to see a level 62 RDM train everything in Crawlers' Nest when there are things there that freakin' aggro level 75s.

You may have been helping one friend, but now a lot of people who don't even know you have judged you.

I corrected this multiple times. Area is not being referred to as a Zone. Please re-read things if you don't think it sounds right.
 
Shai, just tell me one thing:

Did you ask him to move?

If the answer is no, you are a jerk. Really. Theres no excuse for bypassing the verbal step to solving a problem. Why take action to get him killed, (and dont tell me you weren't trying. Killing a BST pets is intentionally putting the BST in danger of dying. You aren't that stupid to not know this.) before even asking him to move?

Remember my post on common courtesy a couple weeks ago? THIS type of situation is exactly what I was flaming.
 
I'll respond cause youre not totally mindless Mistaya.
No, I didn't ask.. but no.. stop. I did NOT kill his pets WHILE he was fighting other things.. he was standing around doing nothhing when I attacked a berry. The fact it AoE'd was out of my control. I didn't want him dead.. but I also didnt think he spoke english.
I've tried "please leave" (in AT) with JP and they just /huh me. So obviously it means something else.
As I said, 2 exp pt + bst..
 
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