Illegal Immigrants, support or against?

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What is your opinion about the the law that toughten the illegal immigrants in the US.


In my opinion is that illegal immigrants that is already here for 10+ years, should work and earn toward citizenship or at least obtain greencard to able to live and work freely in America

you have to say, most illegal immigrants work on stuff that us american will not do for, like car washing, and make very little money a days, farming, house constructioin, roofing, etc

if all illegal immigrants are removed from USA, who gonna left to do the dirty work? no one will willing to do car washing or do some labor that illegal immigrants do without a good amount of in your pay check, car washing will cost more, fixing your house will cost more, and a lot of stuff will cost more, there won't be no mexican resturant, chinese resturant, etc :P

People who came in illegally to do drugs dealing, they can just leave
People who came in illegally to make USA work, make USA a better place to live, taking care of their family in other country can work tempertary, and try to earn a way to greencard or citizenship.
 
I got nothing against immigrants in general but if you dont respect the laws in the first place to come to the country the right way then you dont deserve to be here.

Send em back to mexico but possibly ease the regualtions on letting them come back legally.
 
they came illegally.. they should gtfo!
 
You're a dumbass, this isnt just about the Mexicans.
What about the people that come from Europe on Visas? What if they stay longer than their Visa allows and now they are illegal?

They came here legally, but there is no way to get legalized without breaking the law.

(Yes you Ellemire, dumbass)
 
not just european, chinese, cubians, candaian (Highly doubt it lol), japense, middle east, almost everyone
 
if all illegal immigrants are removed from USA, who gonna left to do the dirty work?
Economy will fix that naturally as it always does. When a job is under paid, labor goes elsewhere until the wage increases to make the job deseriable again. This is basic economics and not justification for illegeals.

Come here legally, or not at all. Leave when your visa is done.
 
you know most of people even tho they came here legally via Visa, when it expire, they not gonna go away lol
 
Rones said:
Economy will fix that naturally as it always does. When a job is under paid, labor goes elsewhere until the wage increases to make the job deseriable again. This is basic economics and not justification for illegeals.

Come here legally, or not at all. Leave when your visa is done.
I hate ignorant Americans, saddens me to be a citizen sometimes.
Do you have any idea how hard it is to get a Visa from countries outside of England and France? Just shut the fuck up, they come here to give their kids a better life, to give them the opportunity to have what they didn't have growing up.
 
Vandoura said:
you know most of people even tho they came here legally via Visa, when it expire, they not gonna go away lol
Good job saying exactly what I said and trying to look smart in front of your QDCN buttbuddies.
 
and don't forget, we once was illegal immigrants too, we took the land from Native American, remember Native was here first :P
 
And ignore the name calling, im just mad and bored.
But seriously, unless you know both sides of the arguement (Citizen v.s Immigrant) then even though you have freedom of speech, your opinion doesn't hold any value. GG.
 
Omniscientx said:
your opinion doesn't hold any value. GG.

You know what the wonderful thing about an opinion is... It doesnt matter if you like it or not it holds value to the person saying it. For example there was a huge march today in Phoenix for this issue. There was some like 60 yr old woman holding up a sign saying "This is America not Amexico, Go home". The organizers of the march sat next to her the whole day making sure that no marchers said or did a thing to her. While i guarentee that they did not agree with her opinion free speech and the fact that it holds value to her made it so that she was not to be made a martyr.

IMO illegal immigrants are crimanals and they should be charged with a felony i think that this should be done with a program that give them a time period and chance with easier regulations to get a legal visa.

Border jumping should be a felony cause quite honestly its unsafe for us that live close to the borders. But this needs to be done over time and there needs to be incentives for people to come forward and get legal.
 
Vandoura said:
and don't forget, we once was illegal immigrants too, we took the land from Native American, remember Native was here first :P

SOrry have to respond to this... I was born in PHX arizona, that makes me a Native American. I hate that term Native Americans when refering to the tribal peoples I'm sorry, I just do.


Anyhow, moving on, I understand people wanting to give there children better lives and better lives for themselves. I understand persuing the American dream I do I do. However, the law is the law. People who are here illegally should not be here, pure and simple. Stronger measures should be put in place to keep people from coming in ILLEGALLY. I'm sorry if this is harsh, but the law is the law.

I also dont want a change in the law to allow amnisty to those that have come in illegally. If people want in, then do it the legal way. How is changing the law far to all those people that did do it right. Here is Joey Joe who spent several years going through the process, but now Bobby Bee gets in cause he crossed the border and got lucky. No I'm happy with the imigration laws, and am all for tighter borders.
 
Toughten the boarder is Np, but what about those people who lived in America for over 10-20 years, this is what they are fighting about people who is living in USA for 5++ years, why not let them earn their way to citizenship?

lol i can imgaine a country without Mexican, Chinese food resturant lol

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Pelori said:
SOrry have to respond to this... I was born in PHX arizona, that makes me a Native American. I hate that term Native Americans when refering to the tribal peoples I'm sorry, I just do.

In my history teacher (in high school) though "Native Americans" are the more less offendive/more polite word then "Indians" >.> just trying to say in a repectful way :P sorry if i offend you using "Native Americans"
 
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Vandoura said:
Toughten the boarder is Np, but what about those people who lived in America for over 10-20 years, this is what they are fighting about people who is living in USA for 5++ years, why not let them earn their way to citizenship?

lol i can imgaine a country without Mexican, Chinese food resturant lol
I agree about a new way to get citizenship, or a authorization to work.

But the people watching CNN and Fox, you're picking up the retard-ness (yes), just stay away. Those guys have no idea what they are talking about.
 
Border hopping has to be stopped, right now.

Legal immigration however must continue for America's economy to stay decent, the people that stay here past their Visa go through a lot of shit that you ignorant fucks couldn't even have nightmares about. Have some sympathy, they are helping America, not hurting it.
 
I wanna see 11-13mil illegal immgrants are kick out of the US lol

*wonder US have any money or power to do it* :P
 
jeeze you are ignorant, Omniscientx.. YOU ENTER ANOTHER COUNTRY YOU ARE TO ABIDE BY THEIR LAWS!!! You enter against the laws of that country and you are illegally IN the country. You are breaking a law you should be punished. They are lucky all they do is get deported back to their country. The law's punishments could be a lot harsher. They come for a better chance for themselves and kids and all? that's nice.. but they still should abide by the fucking laws. You sound like you're saying "oh it's ok they are breaking laws of the federal government! They are just trying to have a better life for themselves and kids" Hey! while we're at it! since it's your view, how about we let them steal from now on from other peoples since they would be stealing to make their lives better! All right!! seriously.. where do you live? I live down in Cali where illegal immigration is a huge problem. They should really gtfo and if they wanna come they should come LEGALLY! They don't have the money? Too bad.
 
Vandoura said:
What is your opinion about the the law that toughten the illegal immigrants in the US.


In my opinion is that illegal immigrants that is already here for 10+ years, should work and earn toward citizenship or at least obtain greencard to able to live and work freely in America

you have to say, most illegal immigrants work on stuff that us american will not do for, like car washing, and make very little money a days, farming, house constructioin, roofing, etc

if all illegal immigrants are removed from USA, who gonna left to do the dirty work? no one will willing to do car washing or do some labor that illegal immigrants do without a good amount of in your pay check, car washing will cost more, fixing your house will cost more, and a lot of stuff will cost more, there won't be no mexican resturant, chinese resturant, etc :P

People who came in illegally to do drugs dealing, they can just leave
People who came in illegally to make USA work, make USA a better place to live, taking care of their family in other country can work tempertary, and try to earn a way to greencard or citizenship.

Have same problem here with lativans
 
I got a fun idea why doesnt the US close its borders and convince coyotes to take illegal immigrants to Japan. Im sure you could convince the illegals that they would earn more money over there. Can you imagine Mexicans moving to Japan...
 
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