Insurrection | Dynamis Xarcabard 12/20

[Xalioniaf]

Admit it jyak, you've done the same thing before >:
Only you at least didn't cloud your intentions <3

 

[diamond]

How does what Achates posted have no relevance to what was said? .... Myrrh said it best.


I know exactly what happened actually, and I found it comical when Achates laughed at it... Mostly at your expense.

You just couldnt drop it could you? I didnt want to drag this out here. I'm sure he was really laughing. It wasnt me that she made look like a fool but of course a lot of people laugh things like that off to make themselves feel better.

 

[Achates]

You just couldnt drop it could you? I didnt want to drag this out here. I'm sure he was really laughing. It wasnt me that she made look like a fool but of course a lot of people laugh things like that off to make themselves feel better.

Actually I wasn't laughing. I found everything about your tryantical outburst that day completely sad. But neither of you have any place saying how I acted in person when neither of you were here. Stick to the OP and take the shit from years ago elsewhere.

 

[Keryan]

what part did he need to finish the relic? The Necrosphere or the weapon NM?
This really would say if they had to go over time or not. If it was the 1st. a straight run to the wall of eyes and killing it would get you to the drakes with lots of time to get it. If it was the Weapon NM, all 12 NM have to go~ those take atleast an hour. Still whats done is done~ Anyway grats on your relic, sorry the othershell had to waste time waiting.

 

[Rappa]

Todays Xarc was our last run together to obtain a long time member and friend's fragment to complete his relic.

A heads-up would've been nice, seeing as that attending this made you unable to run tonight with your actual current dynamis ls.

 

[Freysi]

what part did he need to finish the relic? The Necrosphere or the weapon NM?
This really would say if they had to go over time or not. If it was the 1st. a straight run to the wall of eyes and killing it would get you to the drakes with lots of time to get it. If it was the Weapon NM, all 12 NM have to go~ those take atleast an hour. Still whats done is done~ Anyway grats on your relic, sorry the othershell had to waste time waiting.

He needed the fragment.

 

[Hexx]

They were prolly waiting to see if Insurrection was going to offer an apology (which I believe really wasn't necessary since it wasnt their fault they got held up). As bad as I feel for Fleist's group, yall shoulda been prepared with a contingency plan just in case something like this were to happen (which it did). Ive never heard bad stuff about Insurrection so taking this to the FB prolly WAS a bad idea =/ A simple /tell between LS leaders and a discussion kept in private might have been better IMO.

 

[Starfyre]

They were prolly waiting to see if Insurrection was going to offer an apology (which I believe really wasn't necessary since it wasnt their fault they got held up). As bad as I feel for Fleist's group, yall shoulda been prepared with a contingency plan just in case something like this were to happen (which it did). Ive never heard bad stuff about Insurrection so taking this to the FB prolly WAS a bad idea =/

This isn't the first time that Dreams was pushed out of a Xarc run due to a JP shell entering on someone else's time. The same thing happened just a month or two ago with Perseverance. In that case, we had talked to them about it, and did switch zones after much confusion. This case was different, in which they knew that they would be conflicting with us even before the date, and had written that they would be leaving early so as to not cause the conflict.
When it became evident that there was JP shell in there on their time, that's when they decided that their needs were greater than ours and waited to use the zone, fully knowing that we were after them. No attempt was made to contact any of the leaders to let them know. When it came time for Dreams to enter, they were still in there.

A simple /tell between LS leaders and a discussion kept in private might have been better IMO.

A simple /tell between leaders was met with silence. When Fleist attempted to contact a leader, no replies were given to him. A simple explaination would have been courteous, but none was given. So as you can see, that they obviously had no respect for us and the fact that we were waiting. When a reply finally did come, it was after they had gotten yet another time extension, and that they would be exiting at 6pm...an hour after Dreams was supposed to start.

IMO, Fleist was well supported in putting his frustrations out on the flameboard. Promises were made by Insurrection, and then broken. Weapons NM or not, it was wrong of them to infringe on Dreams' time when they said that they would not.

 

[Javir]

I completely understand why the folks under the OP felt the need to express themselves and they are 100% right that they deserved better communication. I have the impression that there would have been 0 drama had it been explained to them. If they did cause this sort of drama after knowing it, then that would have been wrong.

I don't think that Insurrection should have left the zone despite their "promise", but plain and simple, the leaders and officers of Insurrection made a mistake. This alone doesn't make them or their shell bad people. But its something they should keep in mind if they lead any shell or group in the future. It doesn't kill you to communicate.

Coulda saved some people from needlessly making asses of themselves on this thread, such as Genkaku.

 

[Aced]

Insurrection have never been ones to be disrespectful, to anyone. Sure a /tell would have been nice of them to give, but still, it was their last run as a linkshell. Cut them some slack, they were trying to get Foog his long-awaited overdue Apocalypse fragment. Congrats btw Foog. Isurrection is good people, and still will be even after the break / reform.

 

[Hexx]

This isn't the first time that Dreams was pushed out of a Xarc run due to a JP shell entering on someone else's time. The same thing happened just a month or two ago with Perseverance. In that case, we had talked to them about it, and did switch zones after much confusion. This case was different, in which they knew that they would be conflicting with us even before the date, and had written that they would be leaving early so as to not cause the conflict.
When it became evident that there was JP shell in there on their time, that's when they decided that their needs were greater than ours and waited to use the zone, fully knowing that we were after them. No attempt was made to contact any of the leaders to let them know. When it came time for Dreams to enter, they were still in there.


A simple /tell between leaders was met with silence. When Fleist attempted to contact a leader, no replies were given to him. A simple explaination would have been courteous, but none was given. So as you can see, that they obviously had no respect for us and the fact that we were waiting. When a reply finally did come, it was after they had gotten yet another time extension, and that they would be exiting at 6pm...an hour after Dreams was supposed to start.

IMO, Fleist was well supported in putting his frustrations out on the flameboard. Promises were made by Insurrection, and then broken. Weapons NM or not, it was wrong of them to infringe on Dreams' time when they said that they would not.

What yall seem to be forgetting though is the fact that Insurrection ALSO had their time infringed upon. See, if their time hadn't gotten messed with by a JP group, this whole mess of a situation wouldn't have happened. So there was miscommunication, fine, I'll give you guys that, but then again, its sometimes a little difficult to answer tells while dealing with mobs in dynamis......and thats just from personal experience.

Of course Fleist was well supported, at least by his own people, in putting this on the FB, but fact is, this isn't really FB material.........say for instance Insurrection's leadership had turned around and cursed you folks out or somethin, then ok yeah that would be reason enough to incur a thread on the FB.

I stand by what I said as far as having a contingency plan setup just in case this kind of bullshit happens. Take the shell I'm in SanctusVires, we had an issue come up with one of our runs and had to switch zones. Tristam and the rest of the leadership did a quick check of the Dynamis threads and found another zone to do which in turn quickly fixed our problem.

What I have yet to see in any of you folks' responses is some recognition of the fact that yall are adopting a bit of a "holier-than-thou" attitude........not to be rude but you seem to forget that yall werent the only ones that were forced to wait. Nicholette already apologized on behalf of Insurrection, what more do yall want? Seriously?

 

[Shirai]

Some people just want to see the world burn.

 

[Brydan]

Some people just want to see the world burn.

Amazing.

 

[Starfyre]

What yall seem to be forgetting though is the fact that Insurrection ALSO had their time infringed upon. See, if their time hadn't gotten messed with by a JP group, this whole mess of a situation wouldn't have happened. So there was miscommunication, fine, I'll give you guys that, but then again, its sometimes a little difficult to answer tells while dealing with mobs in dynamis......and thats just from personal experience.

Hmmm I never forgot that they also had their time infringed on. When we first made contact with them, they had 11 minutes left on their glass. They knew we were outside waiting, yet felt compelled to get yet another time extension. You must of missed reading that. The total amount of time that they would have gone over into our run would of only been like 20 min. had they decided not to get that last extension.

What I have yet to see in any of you folks' responses is some recognition of the fact that yall are adopting a bit of a "holier-than-thou" attitude........not to be rude but you seem to forget that yall werent the only ones that were forced to wait. Nicholette already apologized on behalf of Insurrection, what more do yall want? Seriously?

I never said I was holier-than-thou. I know I'm not perfect. While having a back-up plan is great and all, those before us should of had one as well. Saying that our group should of just changed zones, is like saying that our group isn't important enough and theirs was just because he was getting a shard for an upgrade. I know that a lot of time and money went into getting him that and was already put off before, but that doesn't mean that everyone on the server should stop what they are doing and give them right-of-way to infringe on other people's time. If that gives me a holier-than-thou attitude, I guess that's your way of seeing it. I never said they were bad people, just people who made a bad decision.

 

[Bladewind]

Some people just want to see the world burn.

What he said:

lol post of the thread

 

[jyakotsu]

but that doesn't mean that everyone on the server should stop what they are doing and give them right-of-way to infringe on other people's time. If that gives me a holier-than-thou attitude, I guess that's your way of seeing it. I never said they were bad people, just people who made a bad decision.

Star I know you are good people. But honestly, if Fleist didn't care that he infringed on other people's times in dynamis, but rather passed the buck... Why should other shells care about him? He showed in the past flame in which he didn't feel like he was in the wrong, that he didn't really care :\. Why make this any different?

 

[candybars]

Q_Q my dynamis

 

[Bavaria]

Q_Q my dynamis

I know right?
I'm offline for a couple of days and find this makes six pages. Seriously folks, find better drama.

Hell, I'll give it a go. Candybars is mine and Bladewinds bastard love child. Galka lovin makes Tarutarus. Who'd a thunk!?

 

[Bladewind]

Hell, I'll give it a go. Candybars is mine and Bladewinds bastard love child. Galka lovin makes Tarutarus. Who'd a thunk!?

You promised you'd never tell anyone about that night! ;;

 

[Bavaria]

You promised you'd never tell anyone about that night! ;;

Maybe if you took me out more often, I wouldn't have to bring this to the flameboard!

Think of Candybars... ffs, consider the Tarutaru!