Insurrection | Dynamis Xarcabard 12/20

[FleistLoC]

All:

Please note the schedule per the QCDN Dynamis thread:


12/20
Perseverance 2:00pm EST - Windurst
Insurrection 2:00pm EST - Xarcabard **Leaving early to avoid Conflict w/ Dreams**
Dreams 5:00pm EST - Xarcabard
KumoriYochi 6:45pm EST - Bastok
PerfectAtaraxia 7:30pm EST - Beaucedine
Invictus 8:30pm EST - Tavnazia
Vilkacis 9:00pm EST - San d'Oria


The shell I lead is Dreams. During the December scheduling process, Insurrection resolved conflicts with other shells, and in the process scheduled a Dynamis run for 12/20, 3 hours before our run, knowing that it could perhaps conflict with our scheduled time.

As such, the above was noted from their leader that they would leave early to avoid conflict with our shell, publicly for all to see.

Apparently, another shell entered before their run and prevented them from entering at their desired time, which obviously forced Insurrection to continue their run during our scheduled time. Without communication to me or the leadership of Dreams, they continued their run disregarding any form of courtesy.

I communicated these issues 15 minutes after our scheduled time, noting that their glass had another 15 minutes left. They continued to obtain extentions and basically disregarded my comments (which did not include any profanity or disrespect).

Mistakes do happen. I'm well aware of this. However, to publicly state that they were well aware of the potential conflict during scheduling process, and intentionally not making good on their promise, I feel, is disrespectful to me and the members of my shell who are now waiting 1 hour longer becacuse of a circumstance that could have been possibly avoided.

If someone stole my zone, as a Leader, I feel it's a courtesy to ensure that no other shells feel the cascading impacts of the domino effect. I wish that others would extend similar courtesy to the 20 of my members as I have done to theirs.

The leader I was trying to resolve issues with was Hrud.

 

[Davion]

Its reasons like this why I wish Dynamis didn't just have one instance of itself on the server. Should be more like Nyzul and such.

 

[Keryan]

I feel for you and your LS. We had zones taken that we had listed prior. To avoid a cascade effect we changed zones. There are enough zones open most times that this does not make another LS enter late. I would also point out not all Dynamis shells use QCDN to post. There have been cases of JP shells taking a zone that had been "reserved" through QCDN. Sorry this group was as disrespectful as they were to you, but many players are of the "mine first" concept. They want for them before anyone else.

 

[Darby]

It's not even a LS anymore.


Problem Solved

 

[shizbgby]

The same thing happened to my shell recently, and we had to scramble and find a zone that was not going to conflict with others. It was not mass confusion but it was annoying because those who were standing by had to meet the rest at the other point, changing of jobs for that zone, and course of action in a small window of time.

Thanks for the heads-up and sorry for your troubles.

 

[Bavaria]

It's not even a LS anymore.


Problem Solved

Indeed.

The shell breaks as of tonight, and is going to be reformed as more of a small man event shell. Todays Xarc was our last run together to obtain a long time member and friend's fragment to complete his relic.

Which we did. It was now or never, and the other shell pushed us back. And since this is the first time Insurrection has ever done that, Q_Q more and piss off. I mean seriously, posting a one-off on the flameboard actually accomplish anything?

Quetz be warned, Insurrection made a shell enter a dyna zone late, once, ever. They're bad peepz!

 

[Amerie]

Get over it.

Lame flame and I don't even use the FB anymore.

This was their last event and they had to enter because they were reforming the next day. As a respectable shell with a good reputation you sure accomplished so much making a FB thread about it.

And Darby.............


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[Urat]

Its reasons like this why I wish Dynamis didn't just have one instance of itself on the server. Should be more like Nyzul and such.

Are you kidding me? SE's servers couldn't handle Moblin Maze Mongers for 2 hours, could you imagine entire Dynamis's? XP

Do you want SE HQ to burn down? D:

 

[JP]

Considering SE took down MMM because of a glitch (at least that's what I heard), I think they could pull something like that off. Or at least allow 2 shells in at once but no more than 2.

Truthfully, I can understand why they still went in, since it was for someone's relic piece.

 

[bigbroon]

From what you said, they made the effort in scheduling their run 3 hours before you run to AVOID conflicts with your shell. Another shell entered before them, forcing them to be late. That, in my opinion, absolves them of any blame for you having to wait. The fact it was their last run as an entire Linkshell before a split should dull any spit you may hold for the fact that they held your schedule up also. If you look at it with an open mind, you will see that not only was it not their fault, but that they were also quite entitled to do what they did.

 

[bigbroon]

spite* dull any spit? wtf D:

 

[xRiokox]

Was this really necessary...?

>_> I've always noticed Insurrection tries to avoid any kind of conflicts with other linkshells, it has always seem a respectful linkshell for me since they came to Quetzy.

It wasn't their fault since another linkshell entered first. Things like this could be avoided though, if people talked about it. I'm sure the OP would have understood and this flame wouldn't even exist. x_x Oh well...

 

[Valcristiel]

Apparently, another shell entered before their run and prevented them from entering at their desired time, which obviously forced Insurrection to continue their run during our scheduled time.

So uh, who were they?

 

[Gunnerx]

Insurrection run was obviously far more important, just sad i couldn't be there today, CONGRATZ FOOG ON APOC :spiteful: Well deserved man.

 

[Shirai]

Congratulations Foog!

Now either lock this fail of a flame or move it to good times.
Please.

 

[Genkaku]

The shell I lead is Dreams. During the December scheduling process, Insurrection resolved conflicts with other shells, and in the process scheduled a Dynamis run for 12/20, 3 hours before our run, knowing that it could perhaps conflict with our scheduled time.

As such, the above was noted from their leader that they would leave early to avoid conflict with our shell, publicly for all to see.

Apparently, another shell entered before their run and prevented them from entering at their desired time, which obviously forced Insurrection to continue their run during our scheduled time. Without communication to me or the leadership of Dreams, they continued their run disregarding any form of courtesy.

I communicated these issues 15 minutes after our scheduled time, noting that their glass had another 15 minutes left. They continued to obtain extentions and basically disregarded my comments (which did not include any profanity or disrespect).

Mistakes do happen. I'm well aware of this. However, to publicly state that they were well aware of the potential conflict during scheduling process, and intentionally not making good on their promise, I feel, is disrespectful to me and the members of my shell who are now waiting 1 hour longer becacuse of a circumstance that could have been possibly avoided.

If someone stole my zone, as a Leader, I feel it's a courtesy to ensure that no other shells feel the cascading impacts of the domino effect. I wish that others would extend similar courtesy to the 20 of my members as I have done to theirs.

The leader I was trying to resolve issues with was Hrud.

I like to play a game sometimes. Its called "What I Do/Dont know" wanna play?

Things I dont know:
Insurrection - I know not of them, seems like good people.
The shell who stole - I know not of them, no name lulz.
Puppies - Why do they smell crotch? Who wants to smell a mans junk?
Quantum Displacement - lolwat?

Things I do know:
You - Need to shut the fuck up
You - Need to quit this BAW MY RUN TIMES shit
You - Need to see that someone stole their zone and ask "Why should they cancel a whole run for us?"
and finally
You - Need to take this weak ass flame shit off the FB you cancerous maggot.

Stay blessed.

- Genk

 

[Bumblebetuna]

I like to play a game sometimes. Its called "What I Do/Dont know" wanna play?

Things I dont know:
Insurrection - I know not of them, seems like good people.
The shell who stole - I know not of them, no name lulz.
Puppies - Why do they smell crotch? Who wants to smell a mans junk?
Quantum Displacement - lolwat?

Things I do know:
You - Need to shut the fuck up
You - Need to quit this BAW MY RUN TIMES shit
You - Need to see that someone stole their zone and ask "Why should they cancel a whole run for us?"
and finally
You - Need to take this weak ass flame shit off the FB you cancerous maggot.

Stay blessed.

- Genk

Can you say "way out of content"

on Topic Sorry this happen, like most ppl done stated stuff like this happens. all you can do is keep ur head up and move on, look at it as a bump in the road.

 

[FleistLoC]

I like to play a game sometimes. Its called "What I Do/Dont know" wanna play?

Things I dont know:
Insurrection - I know not of them, seems like good people.
The shell who stole - I know not of them, no name lulz.
Puppies - Why do they smell crotch? Who wants to smell a mans junk?
Quantum Displacement - lolwat?

Things I do know:
You - Need to shut the fuck up
You - Need to quit this BAW MY RUN TIMES shit
You - Need to see that someone stole their zone and ask "Why should they cancel a whole run for us?"
and finally
You - Need to take this weak ass flame shit off the FB you cancerous maggot.

Stay blessed.

- Genk

Things you need to know:
1. If they had communicated with us ahead of time, I would have told my members that they could have either:
a. had 1 hour extra to do other things rather than to wait at Xarcabard for something as stupid as this
b. discussed with my leaders if they would rather just go to another available zone

2. Had another shell scheduled a Xarcabard run directly after Dreams, this conflict would have pushed them back as well, and I don't think anyone would like to "deal with it". What I was posting about is the domino effect of either miscommunicating or not communicating.

3. I had no idea it was their last run as a shell. I was not aware of it. However, it makes no difference as to whether or not they broke their shell and it was their last run. The key here is courtesy. So because the shell is breaking you can have a poor attitude and not make good on your word. Ohh I forgot, this is Quetz.


Had you been in my shoes or a member of my shell waiting during the time period, I think you would see this differently, but obviously your opinion is biased.

 

[Crumpet]

Insurrection has been screwed many times over xarc. So foog has had to wait longer then needed for his apoc. seeing as this was the last run I guess they decided to fuck it and benefit ourselves for a change.

Grats foog. Sorry I wasn't there ;-;

 

[Tomasello]

What kind of response is, "Tough shit, our run is more important than yours!"

What kind of defense is, "There have never done this before and it was their last run..."

All you people saying this are assholes... Seriously. Who are you to say someone else's run is more or less important then his?

RESCHEDULE IT OK. It's not their fucking problem Insurrection decided it was their last run. Don't dick over another group of people cause for your own perceived self importance....

The best part is they SPECIFICALLY posted they were not going to intrude on Fleist's run then they do it anyway and are even too chicken shit to respond to his /tells about it when he was simply trying to find out what was going on.

This is douchebaggery at it's finest. Period.

I'm glad the guy got the relic piece he was after but him and the linkshell leader(s) at the very least owe Fleist a sincere apology and I hope they man up and send it.