Is he right?! [Most likely will turn into an M]

Gods and King HNM's are too very different things....

also the thing Jsoft said about us MPKing them back was unprovoked....what the fuck else do you want?! Maybe it's just me but i think being MPKed when you got the claim 100% legit is a pretty big provocation for retaliation....
 
Not really, they aren't that different, it's just a question of where LS want to focus their efforts. On the first NA claim of King Behemoth we had several JP members who hunted with us in Sky usually. The only difference is the method of getting them, the prizes and fights are very similar. People are just people. If they are Japanese or NA and they MPK you, kick the shit out of them. There's no reason to take affiliation into the mix because the lines blur sometimes.
 
Ithenas said:
Gods and King HNM's are too very different things....

also the thing Jsoft said about us MPKing them back was unprovoked....what the fuck else do you want?! Maybe it's just me but i think being MPKed when you got the claim 100% legit is a pretty big provocation for retaliation....
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this is what people disagree about alot..either fight fire with fire or do u stoop to their lvl. hmm. im torn between the two
 
Firestreak said:
If they are Japanese or NA and they MPK you, kick the shit out of them. There's no reason to take affiliation into the mix because the lines blur sometimes.
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I think what Fire said here is key. Are we mad at Jsoft because he hunts with a mainly JP linkshell, or are we mad because that he hunts with a linkshell that did a dirty rotten thing and MPKd us?

I said it in the OH forums and Ill say it here: I dont think Jsoft stopped anything. What stopped another MPK was the OH members not in the alliance as well as other people teaming up to kill every single spider as soon as it popped. They still tried to force a spike flail.
 
lucifar was trying to force a spike flail, he was standing behind kirin curing me and proph as much as possible
 
Jsoft did nothing wrong, hes been cool with me and others.

Its just when i see him hunting with the same JP that call NAs shit, and MPK OH.

I get a knot in my stomach. Its sad to see NAs ass kiss JP for items.
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You say you hate this one particular JP Lucifar, but you continue to hunt and kill with him. Its the basis of the principal that you are hunting with the wrong ppl. and they dont give 2 shit about you.

Those guys in Dragons Aery are all yes im calling them ALL out.

True racist cocks. I dont care if i tocuhed on many LSs. But when you wear a pearl you represent the whole team. and ive seen Serise LS there with Lucifar and Efrost.

To me... Serise is just as bad as Lucifar, for pardoning with that cock.
 
There is a very big problem with NA hunting with JP, especially the ones that want items (like Bajaratt said)

That is the main problem, people just want their shit. They don't realize they are helping the JP dominate NA more and more , and then turn around and say "NA are too weak" No shit we are, cuz you are fucking hunting with the JP.

If yall remember Happosai, I have a story about him

He was with serise camping behemoth, they were the only ones there, they got claim, stalled it for a couple hours, then they escaped and just let it stay unclaimed, and it finally depopped after 8 opr so hours.

I was talking to Happosai in the middle of all of this
Me: "Why are you camping with the JP?"
him: "NA LS too weak"

This is fucking retarded.
Of course we are fucking too wear when are fellow NA are camping with the JP and helping the JP push the spawn time into THEIR PRIME TIME, which helps them DOMINATE us even more.

Jsoft is a LS mate of mine, and I think he is a cool guy, but he needs to get his priorities straightened.

I know Jsoft didnt MPK anyone, but he was there with the "alliance" (the3-4 JP LS alliance that controls all 3 kings, and they all are allowed to camp together.. its a first come first serve to be in the killing party, which means members from serise, lucifar, ailia, efrost LS can all camp together)
He is basically guilty by association. The reason I am mad is because he did not leave his LS once he saw them MPK his fellow NA players, many of whom are in his normal LS(NafireBlade)

I heard he was trying to say stuff like
"WEll you guys Mpked, making you just as bad"

Well, I am very happy we retaliated.. We get our 3rd claim in a row(fafnir- nidhogg- and fafnir again) and the JP realize we are gonn win at about 10%. So they basically anal rape us.. Efrost trained about 7 spiders onto the main alliance.. at the EXACT same time, members from jeannedearc(serise LS) Cure IV and invicible, casuing a spike flail that wiped the rest of the fighting alliance out. WE called for help before, so the Jp had to escape and they come back and start to fight.. ye thats real class...

They get it to 80% before Jonas goes in and gives them some of their own medicine.. and im proud of him.

People don't realize JP know NA on this server and some other servers wont do shit. Hell, Efrost was prolly thinking "They will call a JP Loving GM that will do nothing, so we will get away scotch free again" Well not this time.. we retaliated back, showing them that we will not take anymore shit... we then get claim and kill it... maybe they will learn to not mess with OH again, because if they do, they will get the same shit they did to us

Back to topic, if teppo really did this, it is BS. Even if he thought the sword was him, why the fuck would he quartermaster it? He should of let it go into treasure and then he lot... ive lost all respect for him if he did this
 
ALright Here is what really happen, now You guys get to see what ran in my mind.
I camped Joyeuse for over two weeks, sadly to say offendly /sea alling. Watching it get killed several times. Everytime the window is open i occtionally ask all my friends if they would come and help me get the sword, they always agree and in return i would get their sword as well. After I come back from my little trip I camp it again, lucky for me the window is open. I occtionally ask many of my friends if they can help me, most agree, others are busy. Yet only one comes to my aid.

Foxglove helps me kill pops for the next hour and suddenly the NM spawns. two hours of hard work and camping it's finally there, un claimed. I take two hours just trying to gather a Ninja and a Bard and a white mage to help me. I finally get Miisha, Shapatho and ishalea to come to help me. I need to go get my sister from school so i give my friend Foxglove leader and I go for 15 mins. When I come back I see Antura in the Pt.

I have two thoughts that Run in my mind, 1 Wow, i didnt know Foxgloves knew Antura, because Fox was also frantically looking for help and secondly, a while back when i asked many friends to help me on other camp runs Antura and I had an agreement she would love to help me and after I get mine we would do her's as well. Soon the Brd, the Nin and the Whm arrives and we get started. We easily take the thing down in bout 10 mins. Everyone congratulates me and I watch everyone pass but Antura. I take a moment and think if she was afk so i send her a /t to pass, she tells me no. Wondering if she's kidding i ask again, she wants to lot as well. Now it bugs me that if she wanted the sword too, why didnt she simply say something in the very begining, why did she even take the invite.
She has only Been in SSG for only 10 mins and she wants something i worked so hard for. I killed the Pop's we gathered the ppl, all she did was take a mistaken invite and had me down for a broken promise. If that was the case that everyone who needed it gets to lot the Bard wouldve loted too, but everyone knew what i had worked for. Some people say That Antura was camping it, well i have news for you I have been there for 2 weeks and I have never seen her down there, I had many ppl come and help me camp and not once has she came.
She only made a promise that she would come and assist me to kill it for the sword i camped, got ToD for. Antura turned into an ungrateful brat, never wants to work for anything. I was /t that i may consider to Quatermaster it because if she even let on the fact she wanted to Lot for it too, we would had never invited her to the ppl. I know it wasnt right for what i did, but I would not allow someone to have a chance to grab something when they only spent a max of 15 mins in SSG as I stayed for 4 hours. You guys may hate me, and I wouldnt blame you guys if you did, but that is how it happened, any other words is a lie, if u dont believe that I cant help that. Say what you want, think of me as u will, but Let you guys know this.
Antura came into party as a mistake by having flag up, and only stayed for promising me she would help me first.
 
to the heart of your post, yeah, the guys a fookin loser. they both kill it they take lot chance, nothing more fair than that. but he screwd her over plain and simple.


as for your off topic bit, more specifically adding jsoft in there, you really ought to know what the fuck your talking about before you toss out names. just because a na is in a jp ls doesnt make them a sell out.
take Fireblade for example, where NAFB gets its roots from. that ls is Full of jp, and they invited some na into their shell with them. does that make all the origional nafb members sellouts?
just another sorry example of people labling an entire group of people because of the sorry and inexcusible actions of a few of its members.
but i digress....

~Syn
 
From the OP, it was clear to some people knew that Antura wanted the Joyeuse.

Teppo's two weeks in SSG before that day has no bearing on why he should get the sword first.

Both Antura and Teppo were both down in SSG, both fought Charbdis, both help defeat it, both should have a chance to lot.

Teppo setting quartermaster to get the Joyeyse was a selfish and dispicable act.
 
And you wonder why so many people hate you Teppo.

[Pebble][Do you need it?]
 
I still don't understand this whole NA vs JP bullshit, can someone explain it to me?

It's not nationality thats making the endgame shitty, its just shitty players in general. If Lucifar and everyone else JP quit the game, Quez will not turn into some magically happy server where everyone gets along for endgame related BS. It will just be like some of those shitty NA dominated servers like Ragnarok or Midgard where each of those HNMLS flame each other on Live Journal or some shit...

There weren't any JP when I was playing WoW, and theres tons of drama over the HNMs(Azurogos, Lord Kazzak) in that game.

I'm not sure I understand the attack on NA players who happen to play with JP shells, I know Faluzure caught some shit, but he was a really nice guy in facilitating any drama that did pop up :)
 
*yawns, I wondered back then but I stoped that time ago. No one ever liked me now, and I wasnt bout to submit to someone that doesnt even work for what they what.

Vil said Antura worked just as hard as I did, i very much disagree. When i first mentioned the sword to Antura, she never said anything bout "trying" to get it before, she simply stated she wanted it too. That is when we made the agreement she would help me first and I would again help her. If i knew she would fight me for the sword I would have never wanted her help. I /sea all SSG many times Ive never seen Antura in there, I camped the window and killed pops, not once has she came in. I offened looked to seek her help, when the time neared, she was never online. I cant imagen how she worked just as hard as i did when she simply walked in as the ones I DID invite to help me were coming.

I even offered to camp the sword again, just for her. I am simply too evil to be trusted, it's not like anyone ever helped me before, just my friends and those I worked very hard for.

People already hated me for various reason, nothing has changed honestly. Oh well, I will still do my best for those who have faith for me and i bid those who lost or never did, a oh well~
i wish most well~
 
i'm not gonna speak on the subject of teppo since i think he's a worthless piece of trash that nobody likes yet they keep giving him opportunities to screw them over

on the subject on jsoft, he's a good friend of mine, he wasn't involved in the MPK attempt (other than being in the same LS as the ones who did it), btw he also helped kill spiders while OH was fighting fafnir yet i see no mention of it here, how peculiar

so ithenas dont be so hasty with your words and finger pointing

it may not be to your approval that he's a member of a LS that is well-known to use every method necessary (even if it's against the TOS) to claim an HNM, but it doesn't mean he takes part in these acts of indiscretion
 
Reality said:
i'm not gonna speak on the subject of teppo since i think he's a worthless piece of trash that nobody likes yet they keep giving him opportunities to screw them over
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Now Reality, I would love to know how many people i have screwed over. You make it seem I hurt you in some shape or manner, I cant possibly know what I have done to possibly upset you of many ppl. But please, share the many things I have done to be this evil person, In a sense how am i so useless?
Everyone I work with says i'm a soild player, yet you dont like me, only because I went against someone that not only lied to me in that event, used me and screwed me over time and time again. Yet no one dares think what ever happens to me is ever wrong, it's simply just, that get my "just deserts" I would LOVE to hear ALL of the Evil things I done, Beside the Coffer and Dyn-windy.
If you cannot come uo with anymore then those two i am deeply sorry your still hung on old news. I am sorry for this event as well, but I wont forfeit to someone that changed how things were gonna go after a agreement.
 
well if you want a specific example, the time where you went out of your way to steal a coffer away from Uzor & his friends because you just had to have your AF first (even though it was agreed prior that you weren't first)
 
also people tend to save their 3-page flames for people who are well deserving of it, and i've heard of others that don't care for you either

Edit: my previous post mentions the coffer story which you said "besides" to, my bad, though the situation still occured

and anyway this thing with charybdis you pulled, man.. you're a fucking clown, dont ask for my help on anything ever. not like you need to, people still seem to keep inviting you to their groups giving you the greatest opportunity to screw them over

when will you idiots ever learn
 
I another will not waste time flaming another moron.
Husband like wife. Both of them can die in Hell.

I seriously think you guys need to stop the bullshit regarding about NA VS JP.
So joining a JP HNM LS = balls sucking? Well, ithenas where is the logic there? Yes, I know there are ppl that do this sort of crap to obtain something. However, pointing out ppl who are in JP HNM LS thinking that they do suck balls... I think that is wrong.

I am in the same ls with Jsoft. There is no ball-sucking events in there. I can ensure you all. And if you guys say i suck balls JPS balls because i am in a JP ls, well then I wouldn't want to waste time on such narrow minded assholes.
 
The point is Teppo made it clear that the sword was for HIM ONLY.

I think Foxgloves has some part in this as she invited a random person, when she knew the sword was only for Teppo.

Teppo cleared the spawns got ToD, and now has a rival lotting on a sword a PLD at that, who cant tank Charybdis for shit 15mins? 15mins here and you want this shit. I dunno sounds a little selfish to me.

What Teppo did imo was right, hell i would of done the same exact thing.

When i camped this sword with my fellow NAF members the same siht happened to me, a rdm Jaqq wanted to Lott the sword even though he KNEW, beforehand i even told him and /l chat that the sword was for me.
Adding this he agreed, but when the sword droped he all the sudden wanted it...
Sounds a lil BS to me.
 
this is off topic so stick with me.

liefe did specificly said in the LS that both him and Jsoft meditated from lucifar's mpk. later that day, i did recieve /tell from Jsoft personally telling me that him and liefe stopped lucifar from mpking us. (which i did thank him for)

When only 1 person claiming sumthing, it might be a lie but 2 ppl,
i will doubt it. Especially its sumthing from a LS member and a personal friend.

i personally dont have anything against NA in JP LS, its their decision which LS they are in and let them be. its not like the JP purposely get a NA to MPK other NA or anything. Ones personality worth more than which LS Ones belong to (at least that how i see things )

maybe there are a few individual NAs that ith was tryin to point to (dont wanna mention names) but bashing all of them just isnt right
 
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