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Hahahahahahahahaha....

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA........

Maybe if it was a Divisor Ring I'd have let it slip, but I couldn't believe it was about Curate's Hat.

Protip: Use Walalala Turban, dat.swap!

Oh, and for the record, the store owner, like the seller in game, doesn't care. Money in, is all that matters.

Plus, you've got an Ebisu Rod, you're technically rich, you shouldn't complain.
 
Should prolly read whole thread before posting something like that. Specifically the post 14~16 area.

But I'll be nice and repeat myself, Curate's hat was just an example.

And dat swapping doesn't count when your getting an item for aesthetics purpose cause no one else can see it.

Now before you lol at Urat flaming about an item he wants to look cool, make sure you read posts 14~16
 
I did read them, and I ignored them. Even they tell you to NOT go do it.

And you said yourself, you want to do Nyzul.

So you have to compromise. Can't have it all. One at a time. Not all at once, or you end up being the average frustrated joe we see now.
 
Urat said:
All just to ensure I'm getting the right item, something I shouldn't have to be doing in the first place, which is why I'm venting here, see I made it bold this time so people can understand.
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You're right, you shouldn't have to be doing in the first place. Oh wait... You don't have to do that in the first place. You don't have to buy the ??? items at all...

Someone mentioned earlier about lotto tickets, and that's right. What you're doing every time you buy a ??? item is gambling. You're paying someone for a chance at an item. You are not paying that person for the actual item; that person has no idea what he or she is selling you. Stop complaining that you keep buying losing tickets.

I really don't understand why you continue to make flames. Every flame you make backfires on you.
 
The ONLY reason they can't make the dat on the ??? be the item it CAN be is...... BECAUSE it can be a VARIETY of different head gear. It CAN be the 'BEST' it can (some type of mask for say) but it as well can be some cap of some sorts. So no... it doesn't have 1 specfic type of hat it is, so therefore it is a 'randomizied' variety of hats it can possibly be.
 
Lol, when you get that high i'll do Blitzkrieg with you. It was the only assault I did for months. It wasn't a static though, I just shouted whenever I had some tags and go. It easily done with 3 but having more then 3 can increase assault point if you do the bonus of killing 100 extra monsters and 2 NMs.
 
Urat said:
See I'm one of those people that don't have the schedule availble to static blitzkreig.

All I really have for option is buy the hat, or solo gold head with 2 mules every couple days til I hit SM, then do a blitz pick up run every now and then and ask politely for the ??? headpiece and hope the pick ups comply.

Unless blitz is soloable by a 75 dancer and 2 mules, anyone know?
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Your conscious that's probably one of the easiest assault out there and that it takes roughly 15mins to do right? (if you're not going for full points~). I did it with all sort of combination of people, with and w/out my static (the people of my static can comply to that), ranging from 3 to 6 ppl and I don't recall seeing once a single time warning whatsoever. Hell I'm not even sure it took more than 15 mins at all.

When it comes to pickup, well, usually you always get a couple of tells after the first couple of shouts because it's one of the most enjoyable assault you can do out there, plus, it's easy as shit.

So yeah, if you're too lazy to invest a couple of mins every now and then, continue to buy your items and don't make stupid flame about it.
 
Urat said:
Just getting really ticked off at these things and need to vent a bit.

SE, what were you thinking? the whole concept of getting a possibly rare item, then trading it in for identification and a chance at a rare treasure is an awesome idea.

I love that kind of thing, collecting the items, hunting them down, etc, Kudos!

And then you go and mess it up. Example, ??? headpiece. Good chance at a R/E hat I want, awesome.

Wait hold on, there's another ??? headpiece that gives me chance at another hat, and another, wow there's three of these? I don't even want the other two... How do I avoid these ones?

What? They have identical icons and descriptions? What? How the...?

Ok SE seriously wtf, you are beyond stupid. How am I supposed to tell if this complete stranger is selling me a junk item for a high price?

This ??? dagger is going to give me a matron's knife or pahluwahn katars?!

If this ??? neck is gonna be a necklace, or PCC? Dammit SE any stranger can put an ??? item, regardless of real worth, up for the price of the best one and people will then assume it is the said awesome item, trade it in, and get ripped off...

Honestly how long would've it taken you to go through and use a turban icon for storm turban headpiece, mask for storm zucheto, and cap for the curates hat?

Instead you have completely ruined such an awesome idea. I am very very very angry with you SE!

/Rant off
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and there goes another 2 mins of my life im never gettign back.. when will i learn :nopity:
 
Is this almost considered a self flame? If not, this is honestly a very stupid flame. Ive never really jumped on you before, but dude your complaining about something you KNOWINGLY caused.

Someone mentioned the lotto

Its like bitching and crying for spending several years spending money on losing tickets. Who's fault is that? Stop buying them and just do the work to get them yourself, or keep buying them but dont bitch
 
I honestly don't see how its such a hard concept to grasp.

I'm not whining about the fact that when i trade in a set ??? item and its not 100% drop on the nice piece, that's totally legit, I do Zaldon, I know all about that stuff.

But when there are 5 items that have same icon, whats to stop someone from selling you the ??? ring for, say, malgust ring, and telling you "naw man this is divisor ring dude! Seriously you can trust me"

They get a ring worth 5K or so and can sell it to you for 70-80K, I believe thats how much divisor ??? ring goes for, and get away with it.

That's what I'm pissed about. If I know for fact the ??? item is the right one, then yeah I'm fine with that, but I'm mad about the fact that I have no way to tell.

If SE had spent the little extra effort individualizing them there wouldn't be this problem and getting potentially ripped off wouldn't be possible.

Maybe I'm just horrible at explaining my ideas.
 
Urat said:
That's what I'm pissed about. If I know for fact the ??? item is the right one, then yeah I'm fine with that, but I'm mad about the fact that I have no way to tell.
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Gee. Then don't buy it.
 
Gunnerx said:
Gee. Then don't buy it.
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Which is exactly what the flame is about >_>

I'm flaming SE for messing up what could've been a potentially much more awesome system, but because of their skipping corners no one will actually buy these items due to the unpredictability.

See?
 
Urat said:
Which is exactly what the flame is about >_>

I'm flaming SE for messing up what could've been a potentially much more awesome system, but because of their skipping corners no one will actually buy these items due to the unpredictability.

See?
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except that people *will* buy it - you've proven that the system works.
 
Urat said:
I honestly don't see how its such a hard concept to grasp.

I'm not whining about the fact that when i trade in a set ??? item and its not 100% drop on the nice piece, that's totally legit, I do Zaldon, I know all about that stuff.

But when there are 5 items that have same icon, whats to stop someone from selling you the ??? ring for, say, malgust ring, and telling you "naw man this is divisor ring dude! Seriously you can trust me"

They get a ring worth 5K or so and can sell it to you for 70-80K, I believe thats how much divisor ??? ring goes for, and get away with it.

That's what I'm pissed about. If I know for fact the ??? item is the right one, then yeah I'm fine with that, but I'm mad about the fact that I have no way to tell.
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Lifes like that ya know, if we knew what winning lottery ticket was amongst the bunch on the shop counter in front of us we'd all be rich!

That ??? ring could be a sniper ring also in which case they are ripping themselfs off if they dont charge full price, but then they dont really know what they have till its appraised either do they? ^^
 
The ??? items are basicly a big game of chance, you just have to hope that luck is with you when you get the item appraised. If you decide to spend gil on a item then you are willing to try your luck for a really decent item. And if its not the item you want then just sell it.
 
Lyea said:
The ??? items are basicly a big game of chance, you just have to hope that luck is with you when you get the item appraised. If you decide to spend gil on a item then you are willing to try your luck for a really decent item. And if its not the item you want then just sell it.
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We get what you're saying, basically you want to know if you're buying the ??? that even has the potential to become what you want. Fact of the matter is, it's still a lame flame.
 
some things never change lol, I saw the ??? Items on the fb and laughed at a ridiculous topic then take a look inside and see the same old stuff by the same person

still good laughs though!
 
Scratch here:

Spoiler:
Sorry you didn't win! Better luck next time!
 
I'mma flat out and say it. I think Urat is nothing more then a very stupid gil Buyer. Ya, I said it.
 
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