Ithenas, the Thief of Today

Hii everyone. I maight not be very popular here and you might not care what I have to say but I for one grew up with Ithenas in my younger years. Occasionally I see her around and wave but thats what we have grown in to these days - distant friends. Not that I have anything bad to say against her or anything. As far as my memory serves, she was a great player and was fun company.

This, however, is shocking. I am a bit drunk as I just got in from a night out and maintenance is on the blow. This isn't the Ithenas I remember, from the sounds of it she has has bad stuff happen to her in the past just like everyone has had over time. I personally think from an "out of box" perspective, the how thing is wrong Ithenas so please forgive me. You're a good person, please don't ruin my memory of you. You might not care, but there are those that do care. After all, it is a game, not life. Its not REALLY going to affect you as a person if you give the thing up just to let it lay and the rewards, as far as I am concerned, being the respect of other players is far better than a virtual item.

I understand if you have bad things happen to you in the past, but don't take the "bad guy" position just because it happened to you. It reminds me of the bullied victim at primary school turning into a murderous killer in later years. You're a good player, you're better than this. Even if I might not know you as much these days, I would not like to see you and think badly of you when I do.

I write this post because I myself have "lent" out my E-bow and am now frightened beyond anything about losing it. I did think I would be leaving because I didn't have much time to play because of my new born baby, but now I am back (part-time) and have stopped playing Ranger so I don't have any need for the bow, I would have sold it. But someone was in need of it and I don't mind lending it out in good faith.

Correct me if I am wrong because, I am a bit drunk ^^ but... If the bow was lent or given to you or whatever word you wish to use in good faith, from another person it was lent to, I think the original owner still has priority if he/she so wishes it back, regardless of your situation (which could be negotiated maybe).

I think that it doesn't help that people "flame" and bitch about it. It doesn't resolve anything. I've never liked this forum.

In Ithenas's defence, from what I have read, the guy left right? In some peoples' eyes - tough shit! But, the fact does remain, that he is back, and is asking for his item back - it is bad I know but, it is only a game.

I say this because, I left (for a short while) and kind of left my things for a special person to distribute or do with as she wished. Now I am back, and may not need the item, I WILL want it back eventually. Now, I am worried that the person, "won't give a shit", after I spent five months saving up for that bow, it would really break my heart. Okay, its just a game, but I did earn it buy spending the time to earn it and thats what counts to me.

The owner said he could get anotherone easily anyway and thats cool if he can do so but from a morality point of view, I hate to see this ruin the respect and trust for Ithenas just because everyone threw flames at her. I think both parties are right, but at the same time, they are both wrong. Fighting on a forum won't do anything but aid to ruin peoples reputation and fuel more anger toward everyone (even new people you will meet), which is why I quit posting here in the first place.

I think it would be mighty good if Ithenas darling, just gave up the item and left it be ^^ And everone else, including Ithenas stopped being aggressive - its a game.

"Make love, not war!"

Sorry for my long type, I am sleepy, drunk (well sober-ish now after typing this lot) and worried about my bow ; ;
 
Your right, how stupid of me to try and stop people i respect from flaming other people i respect before either of them know all of the facts...

I think I'm done here, this board is the scum of end game and its the reason why drama is so perpetuated on our server. People can get flamed in other ways, posting on a board so that random people who have no idea what their talking about can chime in does nothing to help either side.

Atf, quit being a coward and post what you did. Stop letting others take all the heat for your mistake.
 
Hmmm, quote from sparky, Jonas- fellow beard, kind of an ass, but soft on the inside.
Yes, he can be an ass some time, but i dont think he ever did anything to screw you over ithena. Just give the dumb bow back to him :/
Jonas does have auro's account, but i never seen him use her clothcraft to make money, he's just not into crafting. Usually it's just me and some other frinds ask him to use auro craft some stuff for us.

Zoolander said:
Atf, quit being a coward and post what you did. Stop letting others take all the heat for your mistake..

Atf dont own you any explanation, quit calling names u piece shit.

I miss the good old days when everyone at least can be civil to each other, /sigh
 
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What the hell do you meen he doesnt owe an explanation? He gave somone a 10 million gil item and doesnt explain himself, instead sending weak PMs to ith and telling him not to post it or talk about it. He should man up and at least say his side.

And you say you miss the days when people could be civil, you just called me a piece of shit...for telling somone to man up to somthing they started.
 
is this still going? as a neutral on this topic, maybe even biased towards ith because he's in a good IRL friend's ls and always seemed like a nice guy, with the facts laid out as they are, the bow belongs to Jonas. with statements from ithenas weighed in against opposed arguments ithenas has no case for argument.


Fully aware that anything i say here won't make you change your minds one way or another i think i'll go back to looking up "learn to type" website links for reddogneo.
 
I just like to post this entire thread makes me smile ^-^*
 
Did he give the 10 mil item to you? no.

Do u want to blame this thing on atf and show everyone ith did nothing wrong?

I dont see what's wrong with him resolve this thing between ith and jonas privately.

And it's cause you called one of my friend coward when you dont even know him well. if you not being civil, why do i have to be
 
bjbreeze1 said:
Did he give the 10 mil item to you? no.

Do u want to blame this thing on atf and show everyone ith did nothing wrong?

I dont see what's wrong with him resolve this thing between ith and jonas privately.

And it's cause you called one of my friend coward when you dont even know him well. if you not being civil, why do i have to be

hey you big hunky galka :twisted:
 
i don't know what the **ck were you fools doing.I mean trust me i don't have millions of friends in game but the ones i do i'm pretty sure if i give them 20 mil gil they'll return me without asking.Why? Because thats what friends are and thats how you have fun with game instead of being stupid and holding someone's money/item eventhough he trusted you.I needed SH and one of my friends offered to let me borrow 3 mil from him but i refused cuz i knew i won't be able to pay back soon and i could live without a SH for a while.So err i guess you need to work on your friend making skills.
 
well now.......stouter i didnt know you held me in such high regard. you were pissed because i joined OH? Understandable, after i all i am your superior in every way, its natural you would feel threatened. you had me on ignore for a year? wow, it brigtens my day knowing i caused you so much grief. i am about ot head to the store right now, and i shall head there with a smile knowing the hatred you have for me. ^_~


The Great Jonas
 
Some how I have a feeling that I am going to regret posting here-- I try to avoid threads of this nature and generally stick to debates and events.

"You steal from me or mine and I'm going to be upset."-- Likewise. I can understand why many here are upset. I also believe many posting simply enjoy drama. Many times this board can provide me a few laughs. I find little to no humor in this thread. Let it be known, I do not condone theivery. However, I do have reason to believe there is more to this than is shared publicly. At first glance I would say, Ithenes return the bow. I'd even so much as ask why noone has flamed the person who "gave" someone elses bow away. Is it for me to say to Ithenese-- return what was given to you? No. If it was loaned to him with intent of reciept upon return, aka borrowed, Ithenese would indeed be a thief. As it stands, it is noted that it was "given" to Ithenes, and thus is something for Ithenes to decide upon his own conscious of what is right and wrong.

Each shell has the good and the bad in it. Contrary to popular believe I don't think there is honestly a perfect shell on this server. (Including the one, you the reader, are in.) You flame my shell -- you flame myself. It is moronic to stereotype a person into being a good, bad, dishonest, or honest person/player due to the shell they are in.-- I am not here to flame the person who stated so, I'm here to flame the concept. So often we lose out as a server due to said mentality. I often wish to delvl my mage down to at least Lvl 60-- where none of that garbage mattered. Times where we enjoyed doing things with each other regardless of if they were this shell or that shell-- but because we enjoyed doing the said activity there of.. whether it be missions, garrisons, camping, o-hats, etc. IF ESP were not a good shell-- I have reason to believe there would never be anything posted on this board about this said incident. I am not a perfect individual, nor is my linkshell--- nor are you, nor is yours.-- But, we do have fun-- as I am sure you do. And that overly long kirin battle that was tossed in as a passive bash, I am quite proud of. Going into a battle against odds and coming out victorious is something that one should be proud of, regardless of the duration it takes to over come said challenge. Then again, I do not always think the same as most.

Enjoy the game.
/salute
 
Anyway, my better side finally pulled thru the greedy bastard that lies deep down in my soul somewhere. After a very civil AIM chat converstation involving jonas and atf we reached a terms of agreement that seemed to please all parties involved. Sorry flame boys, ze drama stops here. :mrgreen:
 
Zoolander said:

Maybe you get to star in the next episode of as Quezzy Turns.^^

I'll catch the re-run when I wake up. Good night.
 
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