Ithenas, the Thief of Today

Here's an even better idea...If you are officially quitting, stop taking claim to your shit when you come back. If you think you might come back, stop giving your shit away.

I'm not sure if Jonas officially said he was 'quitting' or 'taking a break,' so if it was the latter, disregard. But honestly, if I quit and gave all my shit away, I would not come back just to lay claim to it.

Ith man, I dunno what side of the fence I am on for this one...If it was given to someone else who in turn gave it to you, then the original owner really has no right to claim it from you. Nor should you be made the bad guy for keeping a gift given to you. But I don't know the exact story, so meh..
 
Blackmagik said:
and this, my friend is a douchebag...
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I think you have that wrong dude. That's a hot water bottle; this:

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is a douche (the school's simplified word for douchebag). A giant douche, to be exact - South Park is never wrong.
 
i sold that e-bow to jonas, do i have any claim at all :?: :!:
 
Akisu said:
So, please tell us, what the exact words that were said were. And even still, Jonas *is* back. Why not give him his bow back? Don't pick at the literal sense of the words, there are things implied that never come out using quotes, let alone paraphrasing something you don't even provide us with to see when you argue your point.

Vocabulary can only go so far... words are words, actions are what make the person.

Ontop of that, I'm sure we can go and pull alot of words, gramatical errors and misquotes or missunderstandings out of that big argument with your osode before. The point isn't exact words, it's ethics. Ex, are you a greedy little jerk who plays word games, or are you a half decent person who won't let happen to someone else what almost happened to you? Let's get a strait answer, instead of trying to spin the argument against everyone else about everything else.

And yes, The Druw, that's it.

So Ithenas, are you really such a hypocrit you're going screw someone over that bad after you had to suffer through the same thing? Hmm, maybe they should have kept your Osode. Greedy. I've camped that bow before, would you like the information on how it spawns? You can go earn yourself a bow instead of stealing others.
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Aaa yes, i see now, i think. Nothing is literal, everything is passive and implied. Say this and mean that, politics and all that bullshit. So when somebody says words "give" and "keep" they actually mean "borrow" and "until i get back". So if i follow your logic correctly i can tell you to "Fuck off" and "kiss my ass" and actually mean "Good day" and "Hope to talk to you again"? Wow, this brings a whole new world of the English language into view that i've never even thought of, thank you for sharing that with me! I'll now have loads of fun using this new metaphorical and implied language with my friends!!

In light of your "everything i need to know, i learned in kindergarten" quotes in your sig, i thought i'd share one with you from my year book.

"Say what you mean and leave the implied stuff to poets and politicans" - Anonymous
 
It doesn't matter a damn what Atfgame told you that you could keep. Had Wowzer handed me the Osode and said "I could keep it" would it have then become my property? The answer is no, because no matter who holds it, it is Delite's. The point is that it was Jonas' not Atfgame's, so stop trying to confuse the issue.
 
People just need to learn...if you quit and give your shit away... IT'S NO LONGER YOURS. Ya, you're fucked so don't even start crying that tune.
 
ThatGuyYouKnow said:
Here's an even better idea...If you are officially quitting, stop taking claim to your shit when you come back. If you think you might come back, stop giving your shit away.

I'm not sure if Jonas officially said he was 'quitting' or 'taking a break,' so if it was the latter, disregard. But honestly, if I quit and gave all my shit away, I would not come back just to lay claim to it.

Ith man, I dunno what side of the fence I am on for this one...If it was given to someone else who in turn gave it to you, then the original owner really has no right to claim it from you. Nor should you be made the bad guy for keeping a gift given to you. But I don't know the exact story, so meh..
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I agee 100%


brucebobo said:
Firestreak why did you come on ESP LS web site and post a link to this?

you might hate ith. but you can leave our LS out of this.
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Cause he is a douche plain and simple. He thinks he needs to officate or get involved in every single issue he can.


P.S. I quit and gave alot of stuff away. If I did come back there is no way I would ask those people to give my stuff back.
 
lol as far as ithenas stealing my ebow its to be expected. you see ithenas has been playing this game for what two years now, and has nothing to show for it. he is about as poor as a level 15 war in the dunes. With his new aquired ebow and osode, it looks like he has done something, he wont give them back. if he did he would just look like a poor noob again.

reason why i didnt post this myself is that i will handle ithenas. even by posting on QCDN it wont have my property returned by an admitted thief. I have another ebow, unlike ithenas i can actually earn gil. Another reason i didnt post is that too many idiots spam the topic with stupid messages that nothing can really be accomplished. look at his first post, all he did was start with those idiotic pictures. he is a child that cant be reasoned with.

ithenas is the first one to flame prophecy, yet prophecy returned the PCC. its to be expected, proph is a bit more mature than that child. As did everyone else but ithenas. its apparent he valued the items more than any relationship he had with anyone. As i have told delite i hope he is able to retrieve his osode before ithenas forgets that he didnt earn it.

lol i just found it funny, it took me a week to earn back the item it took you two years to steal. rofl
 
TheGreatJonas said:
lol as far as ithenas stealing my ebow its to be expected. you see ithenas has been playing this game for what two years now, and has nothing to show for it. he is about as poor as a level 15 war in the dunes. With his new aquired ebow and osode, it looks like he has done something, he wont give them back. if he did he would just look like a poor noob again.

reason why i didnt post this myself is that i will handle ithenas. even by posting on QCDN it wont have my property returned by an admitted thief. I have another ebow, unlike ithenas i can actually earn gil. Another reason i didnt post is that too many idiots spam the topic with stupid messages that nothing can really be accomplished. look at his first post, all he did was start with those idiotic pictures. he is a child that cant be reasoned with.

ithenas is the first one to flame prophecy, yet prophecy returned the PCC. its to be expected, proph is a bit more mature than that child. As did everyone else but ithenas. its apparent he valued the items more than any relationship he had with anyone. As i have told delite i hope he is able to retrieve his osode before ithenas forgets that he didnt earn it.

lol i just found it funny, it took me a week to earn back the item it took you two years to steal. rofl
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You say it like he is the only one :cry:

Actually on topic:

Stealing is bad.
 
Firestreak said:
Here's the difference between you keeping the E-Bow and me defending Wowzer if he had chosen to keep the Osode.


First off, anyone who is in a Sky LS will probably agree with this statement...

A single person doesn't earn an Osode. An Entire LS earns an Osode and then decides a person has worked hard enough to get it.

Fact: You didn't tell Delite you left OH. You didn't deserve an Osode any more than Wowzer deserved one. There was a deal between Prophecy and Delite to get a Togi for Delite and then Delite to get a new Osode at a later date.

That Osode, was Delites, and if at any time Delite returned to the game he'd have gotten it back or a new one right away. What the debate was about is, considering Delite never would have just left OH and joined another LS with the Osode, with him absent to comment on where the Osode should go, I thought it better in Wowzer's hands. At any rate, I know Wowzer was no fucking thief unlike you and the three of you agreed it was the moral thing to do, and Wowzer consented, the Osode would go to you.

Note: When Wowzer decided to give Osode to you, I had 0 complaints and supported him 100%. You can even go return to that thread and look for yourself.

Now this E-bow, on the other hand, is Jonas'. It was always his, and it will always be his. He can loan it to Atfgame, and just because Atfgame ASSUMED Jonas' wouldn't come back, it was not his to give. Just like if you ASSUMED Delite wasn't coming back, that Osode is'nt yours to give away.
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Your feelings about who the osode belongs to aside, the way OH was originally run was that the osode was given to people, no mention of ls property, etc. It was delite's. Proph decided to give it to wowzer, when it wasn't his to give. Atfgame decided to give Jonas's E-Bow to ith, and your arguement is that it wasn't his to give.

Honestly, I think ith will give it to Jonas eventually, but he's just dragging it out as payback for having the same shit done to him.
 
TheGreatJonas said:
lol as far as ithenas stealing my ebow its to be expected. you see ithenas has been playing this game for what two years now, and has nothing to show for it. he is about as poor as a level 15 war in the dunes. With his new aquired ebow and osode, it looks like he has done something, he wont give them back. if he did he would just look like a poor noob again.

reason why i didnt post this myself is that i will handle ithenas. even by posting on QCDN it wont have my property returned by an admitted thief. I have another ebow, unlike ithenas i can actually earn gil. Another reason i didnt post is that too many idiots spam the topic with stupid messages that nothing can really be accomplished. look at his first post, all he did was start with those idiotic pictures. he is a child that cant be reasoned with.

ithenas is the first one to flame prophecy, yet prophecy returned the PCC. its to be expected, proph is a bit more mature than that child. As did everyone else but ithenas. its apparent he valued the items more than any relationship he had with anyone. As i have told delite i hope he is able to retrieve his osode before ithenas forgets that he didnt earn it.

lol i just found it funny, it took me a week to earn back the item it took you two years to steal. rofl
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bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
 
I'm sure everybody would have an easy time making money of a friend had left them their character with 100 clothcraft...damn to bad we all can't be that lucky jonas
 
maybe you will eventually realize why there is a reason i have such good friends. People like kireek, aurorine, unphazed, atfgame akisu, jimm, etc(sorry if i left out anyone!)... ONe day you might realize it.


ask atfgame how much i gave him when he cameback. i gave him everything i could to the point i was broke. if auro cameback i would do the same. you will realize one day.
 
oo, i've got friends like that, but fact that you've more or less always been an asshole to me except for a few occasions is the reason you're not one of them
 
Your feelings about who the osode belongs to aside, the way OH was originally run was that the osode was given to people, no mention of ls property, etc. It was delite's. Proph decided to give it to wowzer, when it wasn't his to give. Atfgame decided to give Jonas's E-Bow to ith, and your arguement is that it wasn't his to give.
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And upon reading the flame Wowzer gave the Osode to Ithenas. My personal feelings were that the Osode should stay in OH, but as stated before, Ithenas never told Delite he left. But those three worked it out.

If that was established as "wrong" in a more extreme case, between who has the right to borrow the Osode... as Ithenas was flaming and Ithenas got what he wanted, then I don't see how it can be determined he doesn't consider taking an item just because you're holding it and keeping as your own as stealing.... and then do this to Jonas and not be considered a hypocrite.

The reason he is a hypocrite, is because the order in which the events happen. If we consent that upon the past argument, he was consider "winner" and given Osode to borrow, then by that same standard Jonas should obviously get his E bow back.

If you want to consider "don't lend what you don't want stolen" to be an argument, then he is a hypocrite because that is how he felt when he wanted the Osode that was loaned to Wowzer.

I am not a hypocrite because basic logic is of cause an effect is on my side.
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Ithenas flames about stealing loaned items being wrong.
We argue.
Wowzer gives Ithenas Osode.
I support Wowzer's actions.

By that I say Wowzer is right, and by that I say stealing is wrong.

If throughout the course of the flame, my view point changed, it changed to the benefit of Ithenas' side, by me saying Ithenas was right to get the Osode. Being convinced by another side's persuasive argument does not make you a hypocrite, it makes you open minded.

However it was not Ithenas view that changed, he remained constant throughout the Osode ordeal that it was to be his. Therefore... the label of hypocrite is his by the defition of hypocrisy. If he believed stealing was right with loaned items, then he believed Wowzer was right to take the Osode and he flamed on false pretenses simply for his own personal benefit.
 
You're still a loser for pullin' this shit Ith. I'm very very ashamed of you.
 
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