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Atomos was in one of the videos I believe, the new trailer I think. They said something about eater of worlds and it showed atomos coming down and sucking stuff. I seriously doubt he's a summon.

The well known ones or very powerful ones are likely reserved for story. I'd say we got our bases down with the current avatars unless we start getting dirty and doubling up. (Isn't diablos dark like fenrir anyway?) Siren maybe, support only avatar. Or unicorn.

Or hey! Maybe summoners will start getting espers hehe.
 
yeah, but havent you noticed that summoners wont be able to summon the "bad guys"? and you can say but diabolos was bad, but he wasnt, he was neutral he doesnt have a side :)
 
Blackmagik said:
Believe it or not, lots of people at BG thing Alex/Odin are going to be the new avatars for the end of TOAU and someone saying that Caitsith/Atmos going to be end of WOTG ones, hilarious i say, because unless SE are complete retards, its not going to happen
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that STILL isn't Alexander's real body... anyone that have beaten ToAU should know that <.< and Alexander was a pussy anyway, lol. Nowhere near as strong as Odin and Bahamut. Which means the real Alexander, and not some puppet the Empire made can either be stronger or weaker.
 
Blackmagik said:
Believe it or not, lots of people at BG thing Alex/Odin are going to be the new avatars for the end of TOAU and someone saying that Caitsith/Atmos going to be end of WOTG ones, hilarious i say, because unless SE are complete retards, its not going to happen
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Alexander would be a dope summon to have. Iuno how SE would do that if they did though, maybe have Cait Sith controlling the caslte?
 
Kelyon said:
To bad Garuda is Wind based and Valefor is Light(I think, or neutral)
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Valefor was Laser based. And I don't want to see a million Macros of "I'MMA CHARGIN MAH LAZER" I swear I'd kill everyone.
 
Myrrh said:
Valefor was Laser based. And I don't want to see a million Macros of "I'MMA CHARGIN MAH LAZER" I swear I'd kill everyone.
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It would ruin laser chargin as we know it... :nono:

At least chan'ers would give Valefor huge boobs..
 
Solan said:
Alexander would be a dope summon to have. Iuno how SE would do that if they did though, maybe have Cait Sith controlling the caslte?
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the castle is not his real body

geez, said it like 5 times now -.-; Since its not his real body, you don't need anythign controlling him, since he wouldn't be a castle.
 
Uzor said:
the castle is not his real body

geez, said it like 5 times now -.-; Since its not his real body, you don't need anythign controlling him, since he wouldn't be a castle.
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That was just SE's excuse for story purposes. Alexander has ALWAYS been a big fuggin' castle, and they're not gonna change that just so SMNs can have another avatar, when they can just as easily do something else.

And Valefor was NON-ELEMENTAL, not light or wind or anything. Though the lazer thing is amusing. XD I'm not making any guesses myself about avatars. I'll just wait and see. SE could pull anything. I doubt it'll be Odin or Alexander simply because those are ToAU, nothing to do with Wings of the Goddess. Not to mention they're like Bahamut in the "too awesome to be controlled" category. :P
 
Uzor said:
the castle is not his real body

geez, said it like 5 times now -.-; Since its not his real body, you don't need anythign controlling him, since he wouldn't be a castle.
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I'm aware of that fact I was just toying with the idea of having a, as Kyrial said, big fuggin' castle following you.
Kyrial said:
And Valefor was NON-ELEMENTAL, not light or wind or anything. Though the lazer thing is amusing. XD I'm not making any guesses myself about avatars. I'll just wait and see. SE could pull anything. I doubt it'll be Odin or Alexander simply because those are ToAU, nothing to do with Wings of the Goddess. Not to mention they're like Bahamut in the "too awesome to be controlled" category. :P
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Yeah Valefor was Non-Elemental, like Bahamut and Ark and others. Maybe we'll geta see Kjata or Ixion.
 
Yes, they do it on storyline purposed, but just because Alexander has always been a castle doesn't mean they can't change his look by, say, changing his shape, or making the avatar that possesses Alexander the one we summon. Alexander is just a puppet powered by energy from the Astral Plane which the Empire control. When he got "mad", he got a kind of free-will. Probably always had it, but the Empire had built him so that they could control him. Eventually they lost control, and and Aphmau broke the controller.

Basically, Alexander doesn't have to be a castle, as that's just the shape the Empire gave him. Odin has always been fighting Alexander, so he could very well be a man on a horse as well, or a Qiqirn for all SE cares. They don't have to stick 100% to the previous games. Otherwise Odin's horse would have 6 legs like in the previous games (nevermind him having 8 in reality). Need I remind you that he also had wings in FFIX? Hell, Atomos don't even have the same shape he had in some of the previous games. For all we know, the previous games Alexander were just a puppet possessed by an Avatar too. He's always been a giant machine or a town, so Alexander is really whatever possesses the town or machine, whatever controls it, like electricity.

edit: no, I'm not saying Alexander in castle form will be the new avatar. I'm saying that theoretically SE could make what's controlling Alexander to be the new avatar. Personally I believe Alexander's corpse will be the key to the new Avatar, as SE really built up for a storyline involving it.
 
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My money is on another Light based Avatar. Unless they add some Merit Bps to Carbuncle I can see a new Light Avatar being added.
 
This expansion SE better give SMNs some avatar love from the very beggining. After all, they announced new summons for ToAU and didn't deliver. That's the least they can do for all the SMNs left waiting something...

ps - Even thou I don't think this is possible, Cait Sith is in this game and he was a summon in FF6... Coincidence?
 
Uzor said:
Yes, they do it on storyline purposed, but just because Alexander has always been a castle doesn't mean they can't change his look by, say, changing his shape, or making the avatar that possesses Alexander the one we summon. Alexander is just a puppet powered by energy from the Astral Plane which the Empire control. When he got "mad", he got a kind of free-will. Probably always had it, but the Empire had built him so that they could control him. Eventually they lost control, and and Aphmau broke the controller.

Basically, Alexander doesn't have to be a castle, as that's just the shape the Empire gave him. Odin has always been fighting Alexander, so he could very well be a man on a horse as well, or a Qiqirn for all SE cares. They don't have to stick 100% to the previous games. Otherwise Odin's horse would have 6 legs like in the previous games (nevermind him having 8 in reality). Need I remind you that he also had wings in FFIX? Hell, Atomos don't even have the same shape he had in some of the previous games. For all we know, the previous games Alexander were just a puppet possessed by an Avatar too. He's always been a giant machine or a town, so Alexander is really whatever possesses the town or machine, whatever controls it, like electricity.

edit: no, I'm not saying Alexander in castle form will be the new avatar. I'm saying that theoretically SE could make what's controlling Alexander to be the new avatar. Personally I believe Alexander's corpse will be the key to the new Avatar, as SE really built up for a storyline involving it.
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First of all, I dunno about you, but my impression was that they built that puppet from scratch without any Alexander in it. They made it because "Alexander only possesses the strongest among us" as they said it. They made as strong a creation as they could, in the hopes that Alexander would possess it. And he did, so they got lucky and it worked basically. :P

Anyway, of course they don't *have* to stick to the previous games. But you know what? It pisses lots of people off (myself included) when they complete change recurring things like that. Kinda calling moogles "mogs" in FF7. So I sure as hell would hope they didn't.

And as for his corpse being a key element in future story, I hope you're right. It would make sense, and be cool. But I don't see it happening as part of this expansion, since this expansion involves the *past*, not the present. Maybe involved with an Apocalypse Nigh-ish continuation of ToAU's storyline, though. Who knows. I also wouldn't put it past SE to completely forget about it and never mention it again, though. :/ (Kinda like Fellowship NPCs, amirite?)
 
Negorissimo said:
This expansion SE better give SMNs some avatar love from the very beggining. After all, they announced new summons for ToAU and didn't deliver. That's the least they can do for all the SMNs left waiting something...

ps - Even thou I don't think this is possible, Cait Sith is in this game and he was a summon in FF6... Coincidence?
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I hope CS has something to do with unlocking the new summon. I personally would think it would be stupid to put him as a new summon since he doesn't really have anything *special* about him.

I'm still steering towards Ixion <,<
 
I thought I strongly implied that he wasn't in Alexander when he was first created, since I said Alexander possesses it... which requires the used of Astral Candences.
 
Light based avatar? Hmmm, something opposite of Diabolos, an angel type Avatar would look awesome o.o...

Something like...Seraph (angel Summon from FFVI) and Lakshmi (from FFVI as well)

Story behind it? ehh former dawn maiden? I dunno ~_~...
 
Or Siren, a BRD+DNC type Summon! :crazy:
 
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