KABOOM! Michael Vick is the starter now~

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Andy Reid finally got his head out of his ass and did what any NFL coach would do. And that my friends is get over his ego about Kevin Kolb and play Michael "crazy legs" Vick. The man is dominating, clearly stats wise top QB in the league and also he has a serious craving to prove himself.

The guy was patient and got his legs and physical form back, he deserves to start.

Personal stuff about Vick aside, this is about starting your teams best option. Plus you have to admit that he is one of the most exciting guys in the NFL to watch.

Best part about this is that I'm not even a big football fan, I'm a hockey guy and this guy makes me want to watch football games lol.
 
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Top QB in the league? Not even close. One start against the lowly Lions does not make a QB great. I think Reid is making a mistake.
 
Top QB in the league? Not even close. One start against the lowly Lions does not make a QB great. I think Reid is making a mistake.

For sure top QB when you take into account what hes working with receiver wise and also the lack of offensive options in the eagles lineup. Perhaps if the kid from Florida that was so in love with Tim Tebow could actually catch a ball and not turnover he would have more weapons to work with. I'm no Michael Vick fan, I'm a sports fan and a fan of reality situations.

I'm a Detroiter, trust me on this. The Lions aren't as lowly as they were last year or for the last decade for that matter. This team has hope and is still rebuilding. Lions will win some games this year and will cause some upsets. With a second string QB we put up over 30 points. Jhavid Best, Ndamukong Suh and Matthew Stafford as well as the most consistent kicker in the NFL Jason Hanson means we are far from lowly.
 
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Hmm... I am not too savvy when it comes to the ol' pigskin, first time with a guy that really really really (did I mention he really) likes football. So I am learnin' a thing or two! Being a Packers household, he does like Philly as his second or third team.

Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't Vick's contract up at the end of this season? I think the Eagles are in a really sticky situation. Do you go ahead and try and win now or win later? Do they want to invest all their training, time and resources in Kolb or blow it all on a QB who may only stick around for another year.

Oh and on a side note, I am seeing my first ever NFL game at a stadium! :D Green Bay vs Washington in DC next month! I am so excited!!
 
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There is a very LONG list of QBs I would want on my team ahead of Vick - Brady, Peyton, Brees, Rogers, Rivers, Ryan, Schaub, Flacco, Rothlisburger, etc, etc.

Reya is right is what she says. You just traded your franchise QB in Mcnabb so you can build on Kolb, then you ditch him after a half for a guy who will be a FA?
 
You go with your hot guy. That's true for any sport.
 
There is a very LONG list of QBs I would want on my team ahead of Vick - Brady, Peyton, Brees, Rogers, Rivers, Ryan, Schaub, Flacco, Rothlisburger, etc, etc.

Reya is right is what she says. You just traded your franchise QB in Mcnabb so you can build on Kolb, then you ditch him after a half for a guy who will be a FA?
there is a slight problem with your list alanon, all those guys play for other teams, not philly. IF any of them were on phili's roster i doubt mike would even be an eagle. this isnt about what you would like to have, its about working with what you do have. they have mike and kevin. kevin wasnt impressive when he filled in for don last year for a few games. in the very same game he got hurt mike doubled kevin's performance, and showed he's still got the skills that make him famous in atlanta.

i'm sure kevin would have had a good game against detroit too. the lions arent at 100% with stafford gone. but would he have had a better game then mike is the question. personally i dont think so. mike's future as a starter for the eagles depends on this next game. if he continues to show up for work he will get the job. as he should. thats how you win football games.
 
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Zalt, my list is in direct response to Tak's claim that Vick is the "top quarterback in the league"
 
he is, stat wise. give it a few more weeks he likely wont be. so far the other QB greats aren't punching out their numbers of yor.
 
/ Sigh

He's not even tops stat wise. The only stat he leads in is being sacked by the other team....
 
No matter who you compare him to, he's doing pretty good. I'm not a Philly fan, in fact Philly is one of the rivals of my team, but I watch every game the teams in my division play and I do think they made a great decision in picking Vick. I was never a fan of Kolb and if you've watched all 3 or 4 games Kolb played in (not including his horrible preseason performance), he wasn't ever all that impressive. If you look at how well Vick has been playing, then you know it was the right decision. He may not be the "top" in stats but he's around 12-14 in Yards and Yards per game, hasn't thrown a pick, is #4 in QB Rating, and if you add in his rushing yards... then he's doing pretty damn good. As of right now, I would prefer to have Vick over some QBs like Romo, Eli, and McNabb right now because he's playing at a higher level than all of them.

And it wasn't just the Lions he played against, it was also the Packers. He played well against the Packers, bringing them back from 20-3 to 27-20. Yeah they lost, but Kolb wouldn't of been able to do that.

Oh and they can always resign Vick? They are already thinking about trading Kolb so that makes it easy for you.
 
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Well, don't blame Vick for being sacked 8 times thus far this season. Simple fact is, some teams just don't pass block very well. Especially when the lineman who calls the blocking scheme in regards to the blitz looks and coverages (Jamaal Jackson, Center) is out for the season. However, one nice stat if we're focusing on that would be the fact that there's 11 Quarterbacks that have been sacked 5 times or more so far after two weeks of football. Three of them have 100+ QB Ratings. Vick, Schaub, and Cutler. Of them, the Bears and Texans are 2-0 and the Eagles are 1-1. You could even make the case that if Vick played the whole game they could be 2-0 as well. If you've watched him play, he broke at least 4 tackles in both games to prevent sacks as well, and got the job done with his feet or moving the pocket. He's kept his eyes down field first and foremost; this alone shows how much his game has evolved since Atlanta.

You also can't put down his receivers like that Taku. Desean Jackson was a pro-bowler last year and put up 10 50+ yard touchdowns last season, tying an NFL record. Maclin is in his second year, and has 2 touchdowns in as many weeks. Avant is one of the best third down receivers you could ask for, a solid, big target possession receiver built for the quick seam routes of a west coast offense. Celek had a breakout year and thus far has been under used by Vick, but as a tight end he will come on as chemistry develops; especially when you need to dump the ball off because your line faulters. Lesean McCoy is a small, quick back who can take a screen pass and go the distance. Vick has a ton of weapons on offense at his disposal. Where the Eagles fail is short yardage situations. They're pounding back, Fullback Leonard Weaver (Averages 4.4 yards per carry in 2009), was their go to guy on short yardage. They have no other answers for short yardage plays (Reference: 4th & 1 against Packers, they did a shortgun QB play action, delayed QB run). Either way, the Eagles have weapons for Vick and Vick has the mobility to spread the line out. I mean, Kolb was sacked 3 times in 4 drives in Game 1. With this line, your pocket passed won't survive.

As for stats, Vick is 13th in the league in yards passing per game in 6 quarters. If you take his total yards, divide by 6 quarters, times by the 2 he missed, add back into the stats and Vick would be #5 in the league. He's averaging 306 passing yards per game if you average him to 8 quarters. Y'know, if you want to compare apples to apples. That's just passing yards. He's currently #4 in passer rating and has no interceptions. If you look at rushing yards too, Vick leads all QB's. He has 140 rushing yards in 6 quarters. Make it 8 quarters, he has 94 rushing yards per game average. That's an average of 400 total yards per game (Highest of all QB's), with no interceptions and one fumble that the eagles recovered. He's broken over 8 tackles that would have been for negative yardage, playing behind a makeshift line riddled with injury so it's not like he's got the blocking that Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, or Carson Palmer have. Any quarterback can destroy you with 5+ seconds to hang back and watch the play develop. When a quarterback can make something happen from a dead play, then you have a star.

All things considered, I'd say Reid made an overdue decision. The only thing I don't agree on is his commitment to Vick for the year. I think naming him the starter and giving him the pressure to perform made Vick better. Complacency could lower his game and switching back to Kolb now will destroy Reid's credibility as a leader.

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All stats received from NFL.com btw, aside from the averaging done with basic math >.> Y'know, so it's all credible information.
 
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impossible. because as andy reid, himself, had already stated. Kolb is our starter, end of story...pfft. i hate coaches sometimes.
just because at the beginning of the season, you gave kolb the starting position doesnt mean he would keep it. it was only a matter of time before vick was given the spot
 
I can't wait until season ending stats. This guy is absurd and he will prove it every Sunday. Nothing against any QB in the league, or team for that matter, but I want to see if every game Vick is going to improve. Right now hes on quite the upswing.
 
Well, the play he got hurt on he made some amazing moves... but, alas, out with a rib and chest injury. Undisclosed, learn more tomorrow after tests in the afternoon.
 
no broken or cracked ribbs, but there is some cartilage damage to the second and third rib.
 
/sadpanda /cancel preorder /ragequit
 
this thread has been dormant for a long while but i think its safe to say mike has shut up all his doubters.
 
Agreed. He is going to get a huge contract and he deserves it. Lets see if Mike can keep up the numbers in non-contract years.
 
Agreed. He is going to get a huge contract and he deserves it. Lets see if Mike can keep up the numbers in non-contract years.

I dont think he "wants" a bigger contract though. As it stands, his creditors take about 25% of his earnings right now, so long as his contract doesnt exceed the 5millish mark or so. If he gets a contract of 10mill or more, the court can (and will) move to take 40% of his earnings to pay off whatever debts he owes at this time.
 
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