Kaizen "leadership"

[Lyall]

I keep thinking of how to even start this one. Do I wax philosophical, do I jest and joke and be polite, yet to the point? Do I come across with an empty-minded rage? Do I just curse and yell and babble? I'm not sure, probably yes to all, so I'll get to the point.

Fuck you, Gainsborough. Fuck you Gains, fuck you Karos, fuck you Kathlea, fuck what other accounts you happen to have after you got banned with your lying cheating friends on the Salvage Dupe scandal.

Let's rewind.

It's newly the year 2009 of our Lord Christ, and QCDN is enjoying finding out that the holier-than-thou linkshell Kaizen has lost their entire upper-class. Someone leaks Kisada's goodbye post wherein he explains how he bartered accounts and made sure he was the most powerful member in Kaizen. Meast blows up on the forums in what most people saw as a pathetic "Fuck you, I'm still better" thread. But what happened on the inside? Who was in charge? Did Kaizen survive? How?

I really want to go into detail, but that's not the reason this post is getting written here. In the winter of 2009, Kaizen was hurting BADLY for members. The old-school they revere like Gods vanished and/or got banned. Numbers dropped sharply. Not that any of you can see the forums, but the points-listing on their forum is dozens of names long. Not too shabby for a shell that has maybe a dozen regulars now, but again, that's neither here nor there.

Gainsborough/Gains/Kathlea/Karos got appointed to being the leader sometime this fall, I wanna say around Halloween? Keep in mind this was someone who had been completely absent from the shell for a year; no contact with the people in it, no attendance in the game. Somehow Gains got appointed to be in charge of a shell they had no connection with.

Recently, some older members of the shell (I mean old, like, going back to before the Salvage Bannings) have suddenly sprouted up. "Why don't we do HNMs anymore? Why don't we do Dark Ixion?" Rather than face the music that Kaizen wasn't the same shell it used to be, Garosthlea thought to herself/itself/himself "Hey, why DON'T we do HNMs again?"

It's not a secret that I belong so a pretty decent social/rp shell. It's right there in my bio box, just to the left of this post. I've been a part of it for years, and literally every single piece of gear I use on my Warrior was obtained through that shell. As such, I'm not always on the Kaizen shell. Since they're an event shell these days anyway, it shouldn't have been a problem. However, Gainslethearos had some other ideas.

Keep in mind, Kaizen didn't have the manpower to do events without us for a long, long time. A huge number of events were at least 50% composed of myself and my friends, and so some concessions were made. We were always cooperative outside of the "Quit your social shells, fulltime our pearl" lines, and once Gains took over she/he/it actually posted that it was okay for people to not wear the pearl all the time, as long as everyone was at the events. Cue some alleged, behind-the-scenes bitching from people who never stepped forward to say anything, and... Well, I'll let these speak for themselves.

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Constantly being outside sets a bad example to all, and the circumstance doesn't encourage a healthy integration into Kaizen. In addition, tension arises with the creation of factions.

This ignores the fact that Kaizen is a desolate wasteland during the day and nights. The only time Kaizen has people on it is for events, discounting when some random people are actually AT keys before or after events.

Therefore, I strongly request that you wear your pearl.

Translation: Wear the pearl at all times, this is not a request.

I will now comment and say I don't understand everyone's problems or situations. I've only inherited them when I became the leader of this shell. But I can't tell you anything except I'm not responsible for the past. ... I don't know what past leaders told you; I am not them. And I can not fix the past problems.

Translation: I am an inept leader and can't fix problems that existed before I got in charge.

When you sign up to an endgame LS, you sign away certain free-will. ... The harsh reality is that everyone is expect to conform in a certain way and act accordingly.

Translation: You are not allowed to do anything we say you're not allowed to, including having other linkshells.

That's comradeship. Anything else would be selfish.

Translation: I'm pretending this is for the greater good and not to appease people who bitched behind everyone's backs.

I won't overlook the reality and hypocrisy of this change. We needed all the manpower we could get when the LS was in crumbles. We were desperate enough to bend the rules and we turned a blind-eye to policy. But this can no longer continue.

Translation: I am a hypocrite, and thank you for making sure we could run when everyone else got banned or quit, but you're going to have to quit all your linkshells except us or get kicked.

We have become divided.

Translation: I don't know how to keep peace or address problems without kicking one-half of the argument.

The simple matter is we just couldn't make it work.

Translation: Despite our numbers being the highest they've been since March of 2009 and farming runs having more than 4 people, you're not allowed to do anything except Kaizen stuff.

I've been gone for years and have no idea what's going on, but I never had other shells so I never wore other shells. Good policy, double-a-plus, would conform again.

That speaks for itself.

As I was saying, the quote was written back in FEB 10th before the HNM deliberation. I'm not trying to point out that it's been in the works for some time now; I'm saying it's outdated.

Translation: That other post isn't relevant since it's outdated, as I have admitted.

Ultimately, we want you guys to wear the shell majority of the time...

Translation: Since only a small handful of people (all from the group that joined in March, no less) have complained, this post is aimed squarely at you.

As for my comment on the previous post (Re: Signing away free-will), that was my opinion and my opinion alone. I'm sure that American sentimentality of "freedom" only makes things a touchy subject, so it was defeating to bring up that "Free-will" speech.

Translation: Oops, my bad. I didn't mean you were slaves, let me double-talk that one to clear it up.

But lets face it, we cautiously try to avoid conflict.

Translation: We don't address anything resembling criticism.

Seeing as this is still a problem and nothing has changed, I am now setting a deadline. Evryone has until SAT 3/13 to sort out their agends.

Translation: No more "discussion", fulltime the pearl by 3/13 or get kicked.

If you would like to debate this issue, now will be the time. After the deadline, I expect you to comply to policy unless there's a strong upset. If you choose not to wear the Kaizen pearl, then I will have to break it.

Translation: There is no longer a discussion. Fulltime it or get out.

I know this is getting pretty long-winded, but I'm pissed. Constantly in my time in Kaizen, no matter how well anyone did or how good things went, everything was always about the Good Old Days. Kisada was a saint, even after he got banned for duping. Even after he posted his goodbye post wherein he said he did some not-good things, he was revered. Even after he drunkely got online one night and TOLD US ALL how he was changing policies and awarding points for things he had already accumulated to get himself and his friends more points and gil than anyone else, he was a god to them.

Anything resembling criticism was shouted down. Any strategy not announced by the leaders was wrong. Remember Rone, Gains? Remember moving from Kirin to JoL? Remember Rone suggesting 3 tanks? I do. I recall everyone telling him that was dumb. I then remember Rone quitting because of the close-minded leaders refusing to listen. I then remember the strategy CHANGING to what Rone suggested.

I remember wiping to JoL with 23? 24? I remember Gainsthelearos calling out my newly-75 blackmage. The one with the level 200~ elemental skill. The one without half of the -ga 3 spells. I remember telling Gainslethearos that I had a paladin at 75.

The problem with Kaizen's leaders is that they are still living in 2004, back when they used to be on the radar. Where's Kaizen been for the past year? KS99s. Sky.

I'm distracted, but really wanna get this up, so I'll close it up.

Fuck you, Gains. You're a terrible leader, incapable of having a spine or listening to anything outside what you are comfortable with. You have no business being in charge after a year's absence, and you don't understand how badly I hope your shell falls to pieces around you when the merger comes. I hope Midgard serves as a reminder to you being smalltime and insignificant, and I hope when the level cap increases and the GOOD member of that shell realize they don't need outdated and close-minded rules to get gear they all leave. You are a bad, and should feel bad Gains.

Also, don't expect a single sorry soul from that shell to address this. Kaizen has a strict "Don't post on the flameboard" policy because they have no idea how to handle anyone saying anything bad about them. None of the officers there want anyone public to see the rotting, diseased corpse that once-proud shell is quickly becoming.

 

[rampagesama]

A++++, would read again. I'll say my peace later when I can put together a formal post, but for now: I hate that Gains is killing what used to be a good shell.

 

[johnno25]

I LOLed at the "you have till 3/13 to sort out your agendas"
Seems like a dick move to me. I'll never understand why people join shells that make you wear their pearl full-time and only do events with them.

 

[Tristam Green]

Daaaaaaaaamn.

I thought Kaizen died with the Salvage bannings? Shows how much I know :3

 

[Lyall]

Daaaaaaaaamn.

I thought Kaizen died with the Salvage bannings? Shows how much I know :3

They basically did. Now that they have enough people expressing interest in their carcass, they're driving off all of the people that allowed them to survive in the first place. Good times, I'm not offended at being thrown out at all.

 

[rampagesama]

Daaaaaaaaamn.

I thought Kaizen died with the Salvage bannings? Shows how much I know :3

Their ability to do HNMs did, thus there status as an events shell was created through the banning of their leadership. Who fulltimes an event shell when they have a social shell with a family feel to go to?

 

[Lyall]

Their ability to do HNMs did, thus there status as an events shell was created through the banning of their leadership. Who fulltimes an event shell when they have a social shell with a family feel to go to?

Why do you think they don't openly recruit? Kaizen's way too elite for just anyone to get into, you should thank your lucky stars you can mention you were ever associated with them. They're better than a family, wiping to kirin during a zerg is leetsauce when you ask no one to two-hour. Fuck, man, get your head in the game.

 

[bigbroon]

I've just fallen in love with you all over again (for about the 5th time)

On topic: You can do better than Kaizen, as I'm sure you know. Fuck them, move on, and pimp out your gimp WAR <3.

 

[Jeska]

This isnt connected to the cancelled Limitless dynamis run in Jeuno Friday by chance?

 

[Lyall]

This isnt connected to the cancelled Limitless dynamis run in Jeuno Friday by chance?

Not that I know of, Jeska. Short attendance is short, but we'll see what crops up.

 

[Miros]

Man whenever I have doubts about keeping the flameboard up, topics like these just come buzzing in.

Kaizen's always been a shithouse since Neyla left. Once Kisada took it over I started hearing all of the crap that he's done and it's pretty pathetic. The way it's being run now makes it seem like a slave camp. I used to be very interested in joining it when a lot of my friends were being recruited when they first started out (though I was LOLBst) but I thank my lucky stars that I never got reeled into that crap. I don't understand people who think they have to run a group in a game like that? What's the point? Does it make them happy that they can make the game a second job to people? You made the right decision to just leave when you read that announcement. What's the point of staying if leaders are going to treat you like trash?

That being said I of course have to say that there are people who are formerly Kaizen members that are extremely decent people. I can definitely say that the shell really fucked up one of my good friends on game by setting him in that mindset of being an elitist douche. Man I could have some fun with them if they replied to this thread too...haha

 

[Caelia]

This isnt connected to the cancelled Limitless dynamis run in Jeuno Friday by chance?

Surely not. That would be a stupid move, indeed.

 

[Lyall]

Man whenever I have doubts about keeping the flameboard up, topics like these just come buzzing in.

Kaizen's always been a shithouse since Neyla left. Once Kisada took it over I started hearing all of the crap that he's done and it's pretty pathetic. The way it's being run now makes it seem like a slave camp. I used to be very interested in joining it when a lot of my friends were being recruited when they first started out (though I was LOLBst) but I thank my lucky stars that I never got reeled into that crap. I don't understand people who think they have to run a group in a game like that? What's the point? Does it make them happy that they can make the game a second job to people? You made the right decision to just leave when you read that announcement. What's the point of staying if leaders are going to treat you like trash?

That being said I of course have to say that there are people who are formerly Kaizen members that are extremely decent people. I can definitely say that the shell really fucked up one of my good friends on game by setting him in that mindset of being an elitist douche. Man I could have some fun with them if they replied to this thread too...haha

Majority of Kaizen is innocent, to a point actually. It's the pushing of the leaders, the ALLEGED pushing of the leaders and the decree of the official leader that's making it a trash heap. I can't attest as to whether or not Ilana or Treg have pushed for people to fulltime the shell, but it sure sounds like it.

Ultimately, the attempt to pretend there is control is the issue at hand. You think I don't see the value of 8 fully-geared 75s? If I wanted to do HNMs, I would have applied to Kazoku you stupid fucks. You don't both, allegedly, so what chance do you have? You offer NOTHING over any other shell and retain the idea that it is a privilege to be a part of a shell that can't do anything outside of the occasional KS99.

I'm usually pretty difficult to rile up, but god damn, I am irritated. Hey Kaizen, how's it feel to lose a zerg parse to a warrior that quit your shell? At this point, I don't even care about appearing bitter, I just want to drag all of those skeletons out of the closet.

Kaizen is dead. Kaizen is gone. Kaizen will never be again. Look long and laugh, Quetz. Beware, newcomers from Midgardsormr. Behold, the death of a titan.

 

[Lyall]

*you don't bot

 

[Jeska]

Surely not. That would be a stupid move, indeed.

I just know many people are members of both shells, I joined Limitless last Jan when this flameboard was full of Kaizen problems, fortunately those problems never seemed to affect our dynamis runs. I do recall one glacer run that got cut short due to something happening with Kaizen members maybe a HNM or something I dunno.

 

[rampagesama]

I just know many people are members of both shells, I joined Limitless last Jan when this flameboard was full of Kaizen problems, fortunately those problems never seemed to affect our dynamis runs. I do recall one glacer run that got cut short due to something happening with Kaizen members maybe a HNM or something I dunno.

Well aside from 2 KV's and a Sandworm a year ago, Kaizen hasn't done HNMs in a year. No, sitting around watching other shellls claim Fafhogg, Aspid, and KB isn't doing HNMs, for any who might even try to play that card.

 

[Lyall]

I just know many people are members of both shells, I joined Limitless last Jan when this flameboard was full of Kaizen problems, fortunately those problems never seemed to affect our dynamis runs. I do recall one glacer run that got cut short due to something happening with Kaizen members maybe a HNM or something I dunno.

I can't speak for Jan-Feb, but we (they)haven't been involved in HNM since the March of 09. I'd love to keep running Limitless on Fridays, but we'll see.

 

[Mai Ikari]

Last I heard, policy is that Kaizen decisions don't effect Limitless, and Limitless decisions don't effect Kaizen. But if all of Kaizen has to be somewhere, then yea, that's a good portion of Limitless' membership walking off to do X thing. Not quite the same though.

On topic, death of a titan is inaccurate. "Behold, the impenetrable veil around a dead titan is lifted."

I like Kaizen, really. But it was never an entirely healthy shell after the short flurry of activity when the Nightblades first joined the shell. The leadership seems to focus more on restoring former glory than finding new glory, or even on, y'know, leading.

 

[Parnford]

See, this is exatly why'd I'd never want to join a shell like this. Seriously guys, who wants to play a game for a living? "If you dont 100% devote your life to this shell, this game, you're kicked." What kind of shit is that? These "leaders" from Kaize, and any HNM shell that do this are, for a lack of a better word, retarded. Get your heads out of your asses, its a GOD DAMN game. Lyall, cookies for you for quitting. Good for you

 

[Jeska]

It was prob almost a year ago now that I think about it I just recall there was a rush to go and True apologied to everyone for the shortness of the run, and half the shell was a bit confused at the situation. Its ancient history now and Truegrave is a real class act btw I never have any problem doing a job or duty he asks me to in dynamis runs. ^^