kaizen.. what u did was just low

[Zaxxon]

Vang, heh got it to 45% (would've been dead if not for 1 mistake). Again, what LS benefits from your greatness?

Maseki you are obviously new to the game of FFXI. If you've been in game at the same time or read any of Vangs posts, you'd know that every linkshell benefits from Vang. His words and opinions are the light and truth that hold FFXI together. Vang has been considerate enough to share them with the public, which I'm assuming would cost people in real life thousands of dollars.

But it's ok Maseki, I'm sure you've now seen the radiance of Vang and will walk away a changed man.

 

[vang]

Zaxxon you are so graceful in your comments, you hit the nail right on the head!

 

[vang]

why shouldn't they get a fair chance atleast once like you do?

Don't worry with comments like this soon enough there will be a BC to get the Tiamat trouncer title and it will drop Herald's gaiters and will be a 30 cap that takes 3 min to win! Weeeee, whining owns!

 

[Zaxxon]

Zaxxon you are so graceful in your comments, you hit the nail right on the head!

OMG!!!! Did everyone see this??? Vang mentioned me by name.... Today is truly the greatest day I've ever known... I just came and I didn't even have to use my hentai.

 

[Elemmire]

why shouldn't they get a fair chance atleast once like you do?

Don't worry with comments like this soon enough there will be a BC to get the Tiamat trouncer title and it will drop Herald's gaiters and will be a 30 cap that takes 3 min to win! Weeeee, whining owns!

oh that's right.. cause we should all have the selfish "ME ME ME ONLY ME" Attitude like the rest of the world right? The human race is rather disgusting at times. Take socialogy/psychology and you'll learn more than you want to. I'm sorry.. but sometimes Kaizen seems to only care about deals if it works better for Kaizen. I thought they were about equality and such.. but meh.. I find it rather amusing that at Fafnir/Nidhogg.. when the JP get claim they mysteriously get MPKed by a random person that comes outta nowhere (Halflife was one person.. who's been Away for 6 months with her boyfriend in malasia and still away) and Kaizen gets the HNM. These JP that I've never seen MPK or steal or anything. Could be just luck on their part.. but seems a bit too coincidental

 

[vang]

why shouldn't they get a fair chance atleast once like you do?

Don't worry with comments like this soon enough there will be a BC to get the Tiamat trouncer title and it will drop Herald's gaiters and will be a 30 cap that takes 3 min to win! Weeeee, whining owns!

oh that's right.. cause we should all have the selfish "ME ME ME ONLY ME" Attitude like the rest of the world right? The human race is rather disgusting at times. Take socialogy/psychology and you'll learn more than you want to. I'm sorry.. but sometimes Kaizen seems to only care about deals if it works better for Kaizen. I thought they were about equality and such.. but meh.. I find it rather amusing that at Fafnir/Nidhogg.. when the JP get claim they mysteriously get MPKed by a random person that comes outta nowhere (Halflife was one person.. who's been Away for 6 months with her boyfriend in malasia and still away) and Kaizen gets the HNM. These JP that I've never seen MPK or steal or anything. Could be just luck on their part.. but seems a bit too coincidental

You said fair chance, not chancesssssssss. You had your shot and you lost what's the problem? I don't understand why LSes have to coddle or cater to other LSes all the time. I would think I would get rather bored watching another LS flounder around and CFH on something I knew my LS could tear up very nicely.

Seriously, this is all common sense.

 

[phazen]

Right.. so obviously that day you killed Tiamat at 3am EST was just.. what? Luck?

The reason we had so many people on at that time on that day was becaue the Nidhogg window had just ended, and many people had changed their sleep schedules for it. Also, by "so many people" I mean 21, I was actually unsure if we would be able to win, it took us quite a while.

And then the nice tell I got from a LS member of yours where he said "This is OUR wyrm, this is OUR event" made it even better.... you guys seem to sound more and more like the JP you claim are bad.

I don't know who said that, but I certainly wouldn't approve of that attitude. I would most likely forgive whoever said it as they probably said it in retaltiation to all the nasty things said to us. I don't actually hold a grudge against anyone for anything said that night.

About Maseki shouting MPK at 1% he said "MPK Tiamat @1% kthxbai" in an obviously joking manner.

Had that been the quote I would agree with you, but you've completely butchered what he said. There was a whole lot more vile language and pure hatred in the thing's maseki chose to shout, no "joking manner" could be detected in it. I also don't recall a "kthxbai" anywhere in there. Screenshots are available if you don't believe me.

I really do think this whole thing has been blown out of proportion. Also the reason we go after Tiamat more than the others is for the specific drops, there's many people in our shell who still want herald's gaiters. If you want "practice" that badly then you should know that we very rarely touch jorm, you can practice on him as much as you like, the fight is quite similar. I certainly don't intend on holding anything against NH over this unless they force me to.

 

[Almaut]

About Maseki shouting MPK at 1% he said "MPK Tiamat @1% kthxbai" in an obviously joking manner.

It's kinda hard to take a joke when you see this:

Right.. so obviously that day you killed Tiamat at 3am EST was just.. what? Luck?

Nidhogg happened to be a guaranteed spawn that night which is the only reason we were able to do Tiamat at that time. Not to mention we were pushing it for job combinations as it was that night.

You could have easily gone and killed Jorm or another Wyrm instead of sit and watch us, huh? I am pretty sure Vrtra was and still is up and Jorm is almost never killed. That's what NH will do.. if a wyrm we try is being killed we go after sky things or another wyrm. What's so bad about letting others give a try against Wyrms?

Jorm isn't worth the drops because we're not going for money. Gaiters is our #1 priority since it helps our whms keep up with kited tanks against vrtra/kirin/anything else that would need to be kited. As to your point about letting other shells try, you had nearly 4 hours to take tiamat down which would have been even longer had the CFH not have occured. Your previous attempt was what..7 hours spent taking tiamat? When we were gearing the shell towards wyrms, we had practically nothing to work with because we were the first shell to even think about killing the wyrms on our server. You and any other shell on the other hand can sit through one of our fights, pick up strats/job combo's/song types etc, and it would have made your fight way more easier then our first attempt.

These JP that I've never seen MPK or steal or anything.

As for this comment, the JP's we counter at fafnir/nidhogg have mpked us at a total of 4 NIDHOGGS. You just don't hear us complaining about it because we deal with things on our own, thanks.

And regarding the halflife incident, if you're gonna post conspiracy theories to make our shell look bad, atleast post some concrete evidence. We havn't approved of MPKing as a form of action for 2 years so far and we're not about to start now.[/quote]

 

[vang]

About Maseki shouting MPK at 1% he said "MPK Tiamat @1% kthxbai" in an obviously joking manner.

It's kinda hard to take a joke when you see this:

Right.. so obviously that day you killed Tiamat at 3am EST was just.. what? Luck?

Nidhogg happened to be a guaranteed spawn that night which is the only reason we were able to do Tiamat at that time. Not to mention we were pushing it for job combinations as it was that night.

You could have easily gone and killed Jorm or another Wyrm instead of sit and watch us, huh? I am pretty sure Vrtra was and still is up and Jorm is almost never killed. That's what NH will do.. if a wyrm we try is being killed we go after sky things or another wyrm. What's so bad about letting others give a try against Wyrms?

Jorm isn't worth the drops because we're not going for money. Gaiters is our #1 priority since it helps our whms keep up with kited tanks against vrtra/kirin/anything else that would need to be kited. As to your point about letting other shells try, you had nearly 4 hours to take tiamat down which would have been even longer had the CFH not have occured. Your previous attempt was what..7 hours spent taking tiamat? When we were gearing the shell towards wyrms, we had practically nothing to work with because we were the first shell to even think about killing the wyrms on our server. You and any other shell on the other hand can sit through one of our fights, pick up strats/job combo's/song types etc, and it would have made your fight way more easier then our first attempt.

These JP that I've never seen MPK or steal or anything.

As for this comment, the JP's we counter at fafnir/nidhogg have mpked us at a total of 4 NIDHOGGS. You just don't hear us complaining about it because we deal with things on our own, thanks.

And regarding the halflife incident, if you're gonna post conspiracy theories to make our shell look bad, atleast post some concrete evidence. We havn't approved of MPKing as a form of action for 2 years so far and we're not about to start now.

[/quote]

This is the post that kills all of NH posts, there will be no more NH replies. They have been bested. Now tuck that tail for real.

I <3 screen shots.

 

[Elemmire]

ah. Well that's what I was told he said. After the CFH on Tiamat I was just kinda like "meh x.x" and didn't wanna pay attention to what was being said other than /tells. I have no personal problems with Kaizen but I would have liked another shot at Tiamat. I have not seen or heard of Lucifar's group killing the wyrms. so.. ya..

 

[vang]

ah. Well that's what I was told he said. After the CFH on Tiamat I was just kinda like "meh x.x" and didn't wanna pay attention to what was being said other than /tells. I have no personal problems with Kaizen but I would have liked another shot at Tiamat. I have not seen or heard of Lucifar's group killing the wyrms. so.. ya..

This is why we don't base posts off what we were told unless we are damn sure about the events or you end up looking really dumb in the end. Trust me ele, you do look really dumb right now lol.

 

[yanzi]

And regarding the halflife incident, if you're gonna post conspiracy theories to make our shell look bad, atleast post some concrete evidence. We havn't approved of MPKing as a form of action for 2 years so far and we're not about to start now.

care to explain who WAS controlling halflife when he mpk'd ppl at fafnir/nidhogg?

 

[Almaut]

And regarding the halflife incident, if you're gonna post conspiracy theories to make our shell look bad, atleast post some concrete evidence. We havn't approved of MPKing as a form of action for 2 years so far and we're not about to start now.

care to explain who WAS controlling halflife when he mpk'd ppl at fafnir/nidhogg?

Your guess is as good as mine. I'm being told by an LS member that we didn't even get claim right after we they MPKed because we didn't even have the people to begin with. What little people we did have escaped after that fact and made their way back up to watch another shell fight it where they wiped and we held it just long enough to be able to kill it.

 

[CubsWoo]

So Vandoura, was not letting this screenshot come out the reason you wanted this locked?

 

[Almaut]

And regarding the halflife incident, if you're gonna post conspiracy theories to make our shell look bad, atleast post some concrete evidence. We havn't approved of MPKing as a form of action for 2 years so far and we're not about to start now.

care to explain who WAS controlling halflife when he mpk'd ppl at fafnir/nidhogg?

Your guess is as good as mine. I'm being told by an LS member that we didn't even get claim right after we they MPKed because we didn't even have the people to begin with. What little people we did have escaped after that fact and made their way back up to watch another shell fight it where they wiped and we held it just long enough to be able to kill it.

Typo that probably just made me look bad, take out we and add were.[/b]

 

[phazen]

And regarding the halflife incident, if you're gonna post conspiracy theories to make our shell look bad, atleast post some concrete evidence. We havn't approved of MPKing as a form of action for 2 years so far and we're not about to start now.

care to explain who WAS controlling halflife when he mpk'd ppl at fafnir/nidhogg?

It was fafnir, and we have no idea. But think about it logically, why would we wait an entire month after the last time they mpk'ed us to mpk them on fafnir instead of nidhogg? Furthermore we then chose to wait until the one week all the other NA shells were hanging out there? It's obviously going to draw negative attention to us either way, no matter how obvious we can make it that we didn't do it. There will still be people who think we did it regardless, just another storm to weather.

 

[Acutie]

So Vandoura, was not letting this screenshot come out the reason you wanted this locked?

I imagine she wanted it locked because this is a thread that will just get people mad at eachother and involve a lot of people who had nothing to do with what happened. It's just going to make people choose sides and make things more dramatic than they had to be.

I wasn't there myself but this thread is doing nothing but create hate between players that isn't necessary. Plus with a thread this big, people are going to start messing up fact with opinion and it will turn into a giant game of telephone where everyone loses. Just fucking lock it like we've been asking since page 1.

 

[Elemmire]

About Maseki shouting MPK at 1% he said "MPK Tiamat @1% kthxbai" in an obviously joking manner.

It's kinda hard to take a joke when you see this:

Right.. so obviously that day you killed Tiamat at 3am EST was just.. what? Luck?

Nidhogg happened to be a guaranteed spawn that night which is the only reason we were able to do Tiamat at that time. Not to mention we were pushing it for job combinations as it was that night.

You could have easily gone and killed Jorm or another Wyrm instead of sit and watch us, huh? I am pretty sure Vrtra was and still is up and Jorm is almost never killed. That's what NH will do.. if a wyrm we try is being killed we go after sky things or another wyrm. What's so bad about letting others give a try against Wyrms?

Jorm isn't worth the drops because we're not going for money. Gaiters is our #1 priority since it helps our whms keep up with kited tanks against vrtra/kirin/anything else that would need to be kited. As to your point about letting other shells try, you had nearly 4 hours to take tiamat down which would have been even longer had the CFH not have occured. Your previous attempt was what..7 hours spent taking tiamat? When we were gearing the shell towards wyrms, we had practically nothing to work with because we were the first shell to even think about killing the wyrms on our server. You and any other shell on the other hand can sit through one of our fights, pick up strats/job combo's/song types etc, and it would have made your fight way more easier then our fiof her's in Kaizen. What if it was found out that the person she gave control to in kaizen had done that intentionally? would s/he be kicked out? Some how I doubt it. As for the JP MPKing you at the last 4 Nidhoggs.. well last I heard they were MPKed at the last Nidhogg and you guys got it after they died. I said "correct me if I'm wrong" so do so. I like to know the truth about things. I'm just stating what I know. I just find it curious that a player that has been gone for 6 months comes back outta nowhere to MPK some JP that they haven't delt with in 6 months+ and then disappear since that incident. I wasn't trying to make your LS look bad. I just find it rather odd.

In regards to your "well you can just sit and watch us do it and copy" why would we do that? That's nothing fun. We'd like the same chance to get up and go at it with our OWN set up and our own tries. Just cause "zomg Kaizen was the first" doesn't mean we should do it your way. And to just "pick up our job combos/etc" isn't gonna work cause we don't have 12 SMN in the main alliance or even 12 SMN to work with. We have our own way of doing things.. we aren't just gonna sit and copy Kaizen. To think we should just let you guys have first shot at everything and then copy your methods is.. well.. arrogant.

 

[Almaut]

I didn't say you were going to copy us and where does 12 summoners come from? Seeing how we do things gives you a general idea as to what needs to be done and makes it easier for you to form whatever strat you want out of it.

 

[random hero]

I want this post to be deleted or locked by mob, or admin, I don't want this repeated BoL stole Krini crap, I don't care what you say, or what you perfer, I don't want any LS flaming LS for this stole this and that stole that. All ShUt ThE FuCk uP, and don't reply this crap

yo, WTF is a Krini???