kaizen.. what u did was just low

[Almaut]

What if it was found out that the person she gave control to in kaizen had done that intentionally? would s/he be kicked out? Some how I doubt it. As for the JP MPKing you at the last 4 Nidhoggs.. well last I heard they were MPKed at the last Nidhogg and you guys got it after they died. I said "correct me if I'm wrong" so do so. I like to know the truth about things. I'm just stating what I know. I just find it curious that a player that has been gone for 6 months comes back outta nowhere to MPK some JP that they haven't delt with in 6 months+ and then disappear since that incident. I wasn't trying to make your LS look bad. I just find it rather odd.

I seemed to have missed this within the quote but what you heard is wrong. Our last Nidhogg was claimed by our members and was killed from 100% to 0% without any assistance.

 

[Firestreak]

That other shell would be Outterheaven, and we didn't try and fight it persay but we got aggroed by it and because of the train of spiders several of us(including me) were killed and others had to escape so we were unable to fight it. It also was called for help on if I recall.

As for speculation on who controlled I could point fingers but I'd prefer not to jumps to conclusions in hopes other LS will one day pay us the same favor before rushing to start shit.

 

[Elemmire]

I didn't say you were going to copy us and where does 12 summoners come from? Seeing how we do things gives you a general idea as to what needs to be done and makes it easier for you to form whatever strat you want out of it.

I could learn that easily enough from reading The Order of the Blue Gartr or another server's LS forum that has done these already. I find it much more entertaining to go for it without any idea what to do and learn how to do it yourself. One reason I'd love to go camp King Vinegaroon. I find the fun of the game being the journey traveled to acquire the items or fight the mobs etc. After winning it isn't anything better.

Also, locked. We both know this isn't going to go anywhere.

<3

I find this rather funny cause he locked the thread about him cause it "wasn't going anywhere" when that's exactly what this thread, all OH threads, BoL threads, etc are like.

 

[Uzor]

So Vandoura, was not letting this screenshot come out the reason you wanted this locked?

I imagine she wanted it locked because this is a thread that will just get people mad at eachother and involve a lot of people who had nothing to do with what happened. It's just going to make people choose sides and make things more dramatic than they had to be.

I wasn't there myself but this thread is doing nothing but create hate between players that isn't necessary. Plus with a thread this big, people are going to start messing up fact with opinion and it will turn into a giant game of telephone where everyone loses. Just fucking lock it like we've been asking since page 1.

I'll remember to say this when someone starts a flame about OH. I'm sure they will lock it then :roll:

 

[random hero]

I didn't say you were going to copy us and where does 12 summoners come from? Seeing how we do things gives you a general idea as to what needs to be done and makes it easier for you to form whatever strat you want out of it.

I could learn that easily enough from reading The Order of the Blue Gartr or another server's LS forum that has done these already. I find it much more entertaining to go for it without any idea what to do and learn how to do it yourself. One reason I'd love to go camp King Vinegaroon. I find the fun of the game being the journey traveled to acquire the items or fight the mobs etc. After winning it isn't anything better.

Also, locked. We both know this isn't going to go anywhere.

<3

I find this rather funny cause he locked the thread about him cause it "wasn't going anywhere" when that's exactly what this thread, all OH threads, BoL threads, etc are like.

i thought you were done??

 

[phazen]

In regards to your "well you can just sit and watch us do it and copy" why would we do that? That's nothing fun. We'd like the same chance to get up and go at it with our OWN set up and our own tries. Just cause "zomg Kaizen was the first" doesn't mean we should do it your way. And to just "pick up our job combos/etc" isn't gonna work cause we don't have 12 SMN in the main alliance or even 12 SMN to work with. We have our own way of doing things.. we aren't just gonna sit and copy Kaizen. To think we should just let you guys have first shot at everything and then copy your methods is.. well.. arrogant.

Well ele, maybe you don't do that but you also probably aren't in charge of the fight setup. When you guys have nin/drk's trying to tank tiamat, and sending kisada tells asking him why he subs drk, what are we supposed to think? When your entire tank pt is setup the same way as ours, positioned the same way as ours, with all your mages positioned the same way as ours, what are we supposed to think? Your leader watches us kill Tiamat and the next thing we know we see a mirror image of our setup. I don't particularly care that you try and fight it the same way we do, but denying it is kinda silly.

 

[Elemmire]

I was gonna be.. but as people keep posting and say things that seem inaccurate or I want cleared up.. well... I post. I would still like to know who controlled Halflife and for what reason. the only two NA LS really camping Fafnir/Nidhogg non stop were OH and Kaizen a few days ago. NH has started going to Fafnir as long as people are on. There was OH, Kaizen, and JDA/Alleluia that day. Cubswoo likes to post and "keep this going" and then post in a thread about him that it's "not going anywhere" when it's the same thing here... well.. that's rather amusing to me.

 

[Elemmire]

In regards to your "well you can just sit and watch us do it and copy" why would we do that? That's nothing fun. We'd like the same chance to get up and go at it with our OWN set up and our own tries. Just cause "zomg Kaizen was the first" doesn't mean we should do it your way. And to just "pick up our job combos/etc" isn't gonna work cause we don't have 12 SMN in the main alliance or even 12 SMN to work with. We have our own way of doing things.. we aren't just gonna sit and copy Kaizen. To think we should just let you guys have first shot at everything and then copy your methods is.. well.. arrogant.

Well ele, maybe you don't do that but you also probably aren't in charge of the fight setup. When you guys have nin/drk's trying to tank tiamat, and sending kisada tells asking him why he subs drk, what are we supposed to think? When your entire tank pt is setup the same way as ours, positioned the same way as ours, with all your mages positioned the same way as ours, what are we supposed to think? Your leader watches us kill Tiamat and the next thing we know we see a mirror image of our setup. I don't particularly care that you try and fight it the same way we do, but denying it is kinda silly.

our NIN aren't NIN/DRK. NIN/WAR. many in the LS were prefering to use a PLD/NIN but Maseki said NIN/WAR will do fine and prolly better. AS for the place we are at, I know we've tried Tiamat before up against the wall with all the mages rather close by. We realized too many were getting hit by the AoE and that wasn't going so well. I know other mobs wings are avoidable depending on where you are. I just wasn't sure were. Whether Maseki got the "stand on the cliff" thing from youto have more than 6 SMN there from what I counted.

 

[CubsWoo]

Cubswoo likes to post and "keep this going" and then post in a thread about him that it's "not going anywhere" when it's the same thing here... well.. that's rather amusing to me.

I don't lock these threads until they're completely out of gas. The Maseki thing proves it isn't. I only 'kept it going' because Vandoura was so adamant about locking it before anything incriminating could come out against NH.

As for the other thread, as I said inside it, it's something that should have been locked on page 1. And it kept going in ANOTHER thread, which I'm not locking. Are you trying to say this wouldn't have been carried on in a different thread?

 

[phazen]

our NIN aren't NIN/DRK. NIN/WAR.

I've noticed the switch, however I'm talking about your attempt before last. When you guys tried for 7 hours or something like that. nin/drk is really only effective after you've figured out the entire fight. I'm sure you didn't have all nin/drk's, but you were certainly experimenting with it.

 

[Elemmire]

our NIN aren't NIN/DRK. NIN/WAR.

I've noticed the switch, however I'm talking about your attempt before last. When you guys tried for 7 hours or something like that. nin/drk is really only effective after you've figured out the entire fight. I'm sure you didn't have all nin/drk's, but you were certainly experimenting with it.

I don't remember there ever being a NIN/DRK. I don't even think any of our NIN have DRK leveled to 37 so I don't see how they'd be much useful except if they were around 30 to help hold hate. But that stun must be useful is my guess at later points in the fight or just throughtout the whole thing together.

 

[Eladamiri]

ah. Well that's what I was told he said. After the CFH on Tiamat I was just kinda like "meh x.x" and didn't wanna pay attention to what was being said other than /tells. I have no personal problems with Kaizen but I would have liked another shot at Tiamat. I have not seen or heard of Lucifar's group killing the wyrms. so.. ya..

ok then just shut the fuck up please stop fucking talking please just stop fucking talking aofhn9fn9efnd

 

[Nomar]

hmmm

Well, this is my first post ever on this site, im not really big into flaming..
now.. im not here to say Kaizen did anything wrong, they didn't... but you know, we've shown respect for them, and seeing that we had it to 45% and had no signs of going down anytime soon, i think we had a great chance at finishing. i know it would be hard to ask them to wait around another 3 hours to watch us wipe and then take it, im not asking that. But all i want is our shell to get a chance at the Wyrms, for all i care i just want to kill them, if i could decide id give kaizen the gaiters just for being honorable and giving us the shot that they got, because they were where we are now when they first started Wyrms. I talked to a member of yours, i wont name him, but he even admitted he didnt agree with taking it, i hope that some time you realize we just want to be able to have killed it. That's all that matters to me, so please lets stop the flaming, maseki did yell those things, but he was upset, and tell me NONE OF YOU have ever ever said anything you regret the next day out of anger... if you can do that, awesome you deserve a big gold star next to your name! so please lets have fun, and work some scheduling out. please /tell me in game, im very easy to talk to, and i'd like to talk things out with anyone who has a problem. Thanks for listening, this will be my final post on here probably

 

[The Druw]

People who were not there to witness it in person shouldn't have a say in this. Viable comment for said thread.

 

[Elemmire]

ah. Well that's what I was told he said. After the CFH on Tiamat I was just kinda like "meh x.x" and didn't wanna pay attention to what was being said other than /tells. I have no personal problems with Kaizen but I would have liked another shot at Tiamat. I have not seen or heard of Lucifar's group killing the wyrms. so.. ya..

ok then just shut the fuck up please stop fucking talking please just stop fucking talking aofhn9fn9efnd

you first :| you quit and don't even play. Nothing to say of any importance. well.. not in that post. If you wanted to say something about the matter at hand I wouldn't mind. Even if you said something about the matter at hand and then continued to be a dick and insult me.. atleast you would have said ONE thing about the issue.. your post is the kind that shouldn't be allowed :|

 

[Skaw]

you first :| you quit and don't even play. Nothing to say of any importance. well.. not in that post. If you wanted to say something about the matter at hand I wouldn't mind. Even if you said something about the matter at hand and then continued to be a dick and insult me.. atleast you would have said ONE thing about the issue.. your post is the kind that shouldn't be allowed :|

The reason he said that is because you never learn when to stop typing. You end up making yourself and your linkshell look like idiots.

 

[Elemmire]

you first :| you quit and don't even play. Nothing to say of any importance. well.. not in that post. If you wanted to say something about the matter at hand I wouldn't mind. Even if you said something about the matter at hand and then continued to be a dick and insult me.. atleast you would have said ONE thing about the issue.. your post is the kind that shouldn't be allowed :|

The reason he said that is because you never learn when to stop typing. You end up making yourself and your linkshell look like idiots.

myself and my LS? funny.. cause I seem to be the only one willing to admit I'm wrong.. point out facts.. and bringing evidence when I can. Kaizen members also seem to do this. However you and about 90% of this forum can't admit when they are wrong or seem lacking in trying to bring up SS or have other people come and add to the debate or arguement or whatever it may be so you have some witnesses backing you up. I ask for more to come and post what they saw or for others that were actually there and involved post and people just think that's stupid? right.. and how do I make my LS look like idiots? You are a moron. You seem to just say shit to say shit or piss people off.

 

[Skaw]

myself and my LS? funny.. cause I seem to be the only one willing to admit I'm wrong.. point out facts.. and bringing evidence when I can. Kaizen members also seem to do this. However you and about 90% of this forum can't admit when they are wrong or seem lacking in trying to bring up SS or have other people come and add to the debate or arguement or whatever it may be so you have some witnesses backing you up. I ask for more to come and post what they saw or for others that were actually there and involved post and people just think that's stupid? right.. and how do I make my LS look like idiots? You are a moron. You seem to just say shit to say shit or piss people off.

Thats some funny shit right there, Elemmire, considering the only thing I've ever said in this thread was pointing out the big difference between stealing, and claiming a mob thats regenerated it's HP.

So please. Shut the fuck up. People are tired of your posts.

 

[Aeron]

you weren't even there, nobody asked you your opinion

Read the first post, no one asked for your oppinion either, only person who had a right to even post here by your logic was Phazen. I'll do what I want on the flameboard, thank you. Everyone loves it when it's my LS on the spotlight, I guess I like it when it's other's.

I don't give a damn if it's my LS, your LS, or anyone else's LS. Personnally I don't have a clue of which LS you're in, and I don't even wanna know.

Let's go over my logic...I'm saying only people who should be talking are the people involved. So according to your post, only Phazen was involved?!? Good job buddy!!!! There's a LS wiping, or CFH, or getting stealed from, i don't have a clue what happened, i wasn't there. There's another LS taking Tiamat...and you would say only one person was involved?!? Man i don't know where the hell you pulled that from, but Congratulations!!!!!

You wanna do what you want on the flameboard, go ahead. I'll do what I want too, that is blame people like you who stuck their nose in stuff in which they're not even involved.

Everyone loves it when it's my LS on the spotlight, I guess I like it when it's other's.

I won't even comment that...

 

[Skaw]

Hey guys, the word "steal" again.


Here's the big thing scrubs.

Stealing is jacking a mob from someone else if it's flashed to unclaim for a moment, while asleep, or from lack of attacks while kiting.

What Kaizen did was quite the opposite of stealing. They waited for all of NH to wipe, because it was CFH'd on anyway, they had to so that they could get loot. Ontop of that they waited for it to regenerate to nearly full, instead of taking it as soon as CFH status wore off. Sorry that you guys don't get second chances, but honestly, the fuck up was yours. It's not like Tiamat did something out of the ordinary, screwing up your strategy. You don't get second chances in life, don't expect any in a video game.