Loose Change

ive seen their version 1 of this, and it brings up very good points. one of the sections of the video that i know to be true are the cell phone calls made by the people on the plane to their families. i recently took a flight from florida to michigan. i failed to turn off my phone during the trip there and the trip back. you know what, at the normal cruising altitude, there is absolutely no signal.
 
Not this stupid video again. The first version has been posted at least twice and debunked heavily. Lies worse than Michael Moore.
 
Loose Change is pretty much just a bunch of theory so it's understandable if you don't believe a lot of it but the second video (911 Eyewitness) is detailed and proven scientifical and mathematical information on how the 1st, 2nd, and 7th towers were taken down by explosives and not the planes.


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I'm not too sure about a few of the things in Loose Change but overall, the info was enough to make anyone believe. I have no doubts that everything was a complete fraud.
 
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I'm not saying I believe in any conspiracy theorys. All I'm saying is that I'm sure that those towers were taken out by explosives and not planes. Watch the second video I posted. There's no theory in that. Just facts.

I'm looking into everything in the old thread. Thanks for the link.


Miros said:
and for anyone who says watch Farenheight 9/11, go out and watch FarenHYPE 9/11 too.
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I'm doing that now. I have both.
 
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Since you didn't read the other thread:
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Honestly I don't care about the select few eye witnesses that claim they saw a military strike. They are mistaken or dislussional. I believe them as much as I believe people who claim they saw aliens did it in flying saucers. The vast majority of eye witnesses agree it was the planes that brought down the towers. Heck, we have many better video recordings of it than the one showen in that second video that show clearly is was airplanes and there were no missles.
 
Well I guess I'm a pretty guillable guy and I fall for stuff too easy. I just finished watching a Alex Jones video and it was horrifying. He has a ton of links to info on the site as well. I'm just going to choose not to believe that out of fear and attempt to stay away from this conspiracy stuff for my own good whether it's true or not.

I'll do a bit more research first.


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The second video was mainly showing how there was no way the towers were taken down by the planes based on that guy's video and news videos.
 
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Rones said:
Since you didn't read the other thread:
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Honestly I don't care about the select few eye witnesses that claim they saw a military strike. They are mistaken or dislussional. I believe them as much as I believe people who claim they saw aliens did it in flying saucers. The vast majority of eye witnesses agree it was the planes that brought down the towers. Heck, we have many better video recordings of it than the one showen in that second video that show clearly is was airplanes and there were no missles.
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I saw the planes hit the towers that morning. I was getting ready to go to work.

The autor of the 2nd video isn't claiming planes didn't hit the towers, he's claiming that planes hitting the towers couldn't take them down. His story seems to hold water. Especially the part about WTC7 falling. No plane hit that building yet it collapsed. Much in the way buildings collapse when they are destroyed on purpose.

And what were the flashes of light coming from the helicopter just before the south tower came down? Why was smoke coming from the bottom where nothing had hit?

This story has not changed my opinion of what happened that day at all. It only helps to confirm it. This was an act of terrorism by our own government to start the wheels rolling to war. We never even looked for osama in a serious manner. We sent less troops to Afghanistan to look for Osama than there are police officers on duty on the island of manhatten on any given day.

The administration we have in office is evil. The only objective is to use government money to pay companies like halliburton way too much money for services that would be needed for war. The government never even accepted counter offers from any other companies to supply the materials of war.

Bush is a war time president. His administration made sure of that.

oh yeah, and George Bush doesn't care about black people. :-p

As though the concerns of a figure head have anything to do with how our government operates.
 
Are you being sarcastic Trippy or do you seriously believe the conspiracy theories? So the government attacks just happen to coincide with the terrorists and they blow up more buildings which were insignifigant from a symbolic stand point compared to what the terrorists already did...There are so many things wrong with that I'm not sure where to begin. WT7 caught fire from the the main two towers. Firemen fought that fire in there for many hours and rescued everyone inside.

If our government is as evil and conspiracy hungry as you claim...they would find a stealthier way to knock down a building than with a helicopter, with missles, in broad day light, with tens of thousands of people outside watching because of the previous attacks. If they even remotely tried something that foolish, it would be extremely obvious everyone.
 
The only bit of sarcasm was me talking about bush not caring about black people. That's bullshit. He doesn't care about poor people. It just so happens most black people are poor.

But I must ask if you watched the entire 1 hour 44 minute video. There were a lot of interesting theories in there. Also, the guy in the video never says "The government did this to us.", he just points out that a plane hitting those buildings would be very unlikely to make it fall, and gives his reasons, some of which are based on scientific evidence.

Watch it and tell me what you think.
 
Thats the most retarded thing I've ever heard.. Yeah, blame the government! They are all out to get you.... Get a grip.
 
its to much for me to watch i lost family in in Wtc1-2 i'll never forget that day god rest my aunt beth and her uncle mike my everyone who died that day rest in peace
 
Bumblebetuna said:
its to much for me to watch i lost family in in Wtc1-2 i'll never forget that day god rest my aunt beth and her uncle mike my everyone who died that day rest in peace
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That is understandable. I am not really patriotic in the least and did not know anyone that died that day. Yet the video still makes me tear up.

My condolances to your family.
 
The people who are hating on these videos are people who didn't even bother to watch their entirety.

I just finished watching the first one and even trying hard to believe what the government said was true it became hard when so many examples were given where buildings did not fall after burning for 20 times as long, and 10 times as broad... and the facts about WTC buildings being the only 3 buildings to EVER collapse due to fire. And that the plane that crashed into the Pentigon was vaporized... lol ya right.
 
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The people who are hating on these videos are people who didn't even bother to watch their entirety.

I just finished watching the first one and even trying hard to believe what the government said was true it became hard when so many examples were given where buildings did not fall after burning for 20 times as long, and 10 times as broad... and the facts about WTC buildings being the only 3 buildings to EVER collapse due to fire. And that the plane that crashed into the Pentigon was vaporized... lol ya right.
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It is indeed hard to believe the government had no hand in the events of 9/11 or at the very least believe they aren't trying to hide something.

I ask all anti conspiracy theorists to take Abby Hoffmans story as an example of true government conspiracy. If you haven't read "Steal This Book", you should. Or at least watch "Steal this Movie" if you aren't the reading type.
 
Bumblebetuna said:
its to much for me to watch i lost family in in Wtc1-2 i'll never forget that day god rest my aunt beth and her uncle mike my everyone who died that day rest in peace
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=( I'm very sorry. I didn't mean to make a topic to upset you.... or start any big arguments for that matter. I just wanted peoples views on the videos. I suppose if anything gets out of hand that Sculli will jump to it.


Rones does have a point. It didn't seem like a lot of the info from Fahrenheit 9/11 could be that false but when you watch Fahrenhype 9/11 you see actual people that were in the first video that had their views distorted and such. The movie wasn't techniqly a big lie but most of the information was a big stretch of the truth.
 
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Bustaballs said:
=( I'm very sorry. I didn't mean to make a topic to upset you.... or start any big arguments for that matter. I just wanted peoples views on the videos. I suppose if anything gets out of hand that Sculli will jump to it.
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I will have to say out of the crowd that has already posted...

We know how to keep it civil and discuss without arguing and it shouldn't be a problem.

As long as there is no name calling or insults in general, we should be fine.
 
Bustaballs said:
=( I'm very sorry. I didn't mean to make a topic to upset you.... or start any big arguments for that matter. I just wanted peoples views on the videos. I suppose if anything gets out of hand that Sculli will jump to it.


Rones does have a point. It didn't seem like a lot of the info from Fahrenheit 9/11 could be that false but when you watch Fahrenhype 9/11 you see actual people that were in the first video that had their views distorted and such. The movie wasn't techniqly a big lie but most of the information was a big stretch of the truth.
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i can't get man at you posting this topic bro you didn't know that happened to my family i'm kinda happy but as a man i cryed trying to watch the frist movie about it been so long since i seen it happen.....just upsets me how quick someone can take your life in a matter of time.....

So please by all means post on your topic it is a good topic to read.....later on i'll see if i can find some pics to post here
 
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