Losing the grip on reality

And lastly, perhaps our opinions vary so much based upon our nature. I prefer to camp every NM to obtain gear rather than buy anything on AH. In over 3 years playtime, the closest things to NM drops that I purchased are crafted items like SH, Hauby, etc. In all, I probably own at most a half dozen items like that, the rest either being normal drops, BCNM drops (again, I obtained a majority of those directly as well), crafted items or NMs I personally camped.

I have decided to look at it from your point of veiw so I am a little disapointed in you. You shouldn't have bought things like the SH and Hauby thats not really earning it. You should have farmed materials and leveled crafts(on mules if needed) until you were a high enough level to make them. Then you should have BCNMed and farmed the materials needed to make them then crafted them. You shouldn't have used of someone elses crafting skill they worked hard. You are just paying gil and not doing anything to deserve the item.
 
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You misunderstood and that's possibly my fault. If one LS sells it while others need it, I can bet that the ones that need it wouldn't be all that happy. Again, you can chalk it up to jealousy, but I can assure you some of the comments are going to involve the person not earning it and paying for it.
So I misunderstood your horribly inaccurate assumption, but you're going to keep going like it's actually relevant. If the linkshell sells the item to someone outside the linkshell when there are still members who need it; that's wrong. When no one in the linkshell needs it, selling it is a lot better than letting it go to waste. Selling it when people in the linkshell need it isn't relevant at all, this is only when they no longer need the item. You would rather that the items go to waste than both the linkshell that got the item and someone not in the linkshell benefits. Glad to know where you stand, hope your linkshell never stops needing everything; because you obviously won't help others out.

You wear a good shirt on a date to make a good impression. Wearing the same shirt as some slob isn't going to make a great impression and it's not your fault, but lets face it, thats whats going to happen. At first you date might think the shirt is great and looks good on you, but after seeing the slob, the association will make it less appealing.
Or it'll make me look more appealing compared to a slob who wears similar clothes, or more likely no one would care in the slightest. Just stop with the dating example, it's horribly flawed and barely applicable. It's not diminishing any accomplishments, because no accomplishments had been made at that point; unless you count getting dressed an accomplishment.

I didn't know we had to have a degree of severity to everything. So we can differentiate gil buyers based on how much gil they buy or how often they buy? How often hackers cheat? Or all it takes is one time. They stooped to buying from RMT without even caring to acknowledge that it was when it was very obvious. And ignorance is no excuse.
Funny, plenty of people(yourself included) seemed to LOVE the idea of ignorance when buying things off the auction house, hell you practically worshiped it in the thread. There was a complete lack of any actual evidence, just massive conjecture that the idiots who jumped on the bandwagon thought was gospel and blew out of proportion.

And I am allowed to give my opinion just as much as you are. If you don't like it, you can shut up at any time. But seeing as how you need to continue to berate me and my opinions without ever once shutting up, I guess my opinion is a lot more valid than you give it credit. Really, the personal insults are getting annoying. I haven't really attacked you and yet you persist as if you can someone win an argument by being more of a dick when in fact you do more harm to the argument. If you think insults are the only way to win an argument, you are sorely mistaken.
Yeah, you're allowed to have an opinion, but stop acting like you're going to actually change anything when you have no influence one way or the other. You're acting like you speak for everyone, when in reality you're only speaking for yourself, no one else cares about selling items you no longer need. The only reason this thread was made in the first place was because the price was too high, not because of the actual sale. You're also backing your opinion up with stupid logic and lack of understanding of facts, mixed with some selfishness.

This is no different than buying any other NM drop, just the sources for it are less common.
 
Ok, last post. I explained my opinion and it's just that, my opinion. You are free to take it as you please, but I am neither forcing it down your throat nor forcing you to change to please me. You are the ones completely bothered by my opinion and hold it in such contempt. Perhaps, you should re-examine your own opinions if you are all so stuck up my opinion to believe that only your own are correct. And you called me narrow minded...
You rather are forcing it down peoples' throats by claiming their accomplishments are void so long as they bought an item. Not only that, but this opinion is wrong, as the entire basis for it is formed via a complete misunderstanding of the entire game, as well as an indeed narrow minded view of how things "should" be. Someone accomplishing something in a manner different to what you would do doesn't lessen the accomplishment. As long as all parties involved are satisfied, and no cheating occurred, there is nothing better or worse about any method of obtaining an item.

And lastly, perhaps our opinions vary so much based upon our nature. I prefer to camp every NM to obtain gear rather than buy anything on AH. In over 3 years playtime, the closest things to NM drops that I purchased are crafted items like SH, Hauby, etc. In all, I probably own at most a half dozen items like that, the rest either being normal drops, BCNM drops (again, I obtained a majority of those directly as well), crafted items or NMs I personally camped.
This I can get behind. This is perfectly fine, and is a perfectly valid personal preference and opinion. The manner in which you wish to accomplish your goals (again, excluding cheating) is for you to decide. Either what you enjoy the most, or the way that makes you feel the most accomplished.

Imposing your e-penis battle on others, however, is not acceptable. That's the only thing I see in what you've said. "Please don't buy endgame items, because it makes my electronic wang feel smaller."
 
This I will call BS on. If a LS watched as someone sold A.Body, Ridill, or E.Body while your own linkshell members still needed it, I bet your linkshell along with all the people who still needed it would have choice words about that person. You might refrain from not saying things, but I can guarantee someone would say something not so friendly. Perhaps it's out of jealousy for not getting it while someone else does or perhaps it's because they spent time earning it while someone takes the cheap way out. At any rate, the fact it was purchased while those still working to achieve it would be a good part of the reason your members would be angry.

Just wanted to put my two cents in here... This has happened in front of us with Ridill's, E.Body's and A.Body's many times before, and frankly IMO anyway it was a lot better than seeing a ridill go to say their bard... though thats happened too. Choice words never went towards the person who bought it but more the shell, and "Why couldn't they have gotten the M.Body they are waiting for so they will just leave......"

Also, there have been many LSs who in the past would sell of Sky Items that dropped if they no longer needed them. Or even gave them away for free... I guess what i am trying to say is that the idea of selling of ra/ex items has been around for at least 3 years, I'm wondering why it is only coming up now as a big deal.
 
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Just wanted to put my two cents in here... This has happened in front of us with Ridill's, E.Body's and A.Body's many times before, and frankly IMO anyway it was a lot better than seeing a ridill go to say their bard...

Hey there!!! what's wrong with Bard now!!! We all should be able to lot Ebody and Ridill!!! Come on!!!!

<3

/em starts a movement pro-brd-ridill!!! Gogo!
 
Bard's can't use ridill...
 
Imposing your e-penis battle on others, however, is not acceptable. That's the only thing I see in what you've said. "Please don't buy endgame items, because it makes my electronic wang feel smaller."

How did I start anything? I stated my opinion from the get go and all I got was Bajaratt's endless intolerant, narrow minded (Yes, ironic since he called me the very same thing) opinion. He never relented and attacked me for what? Seriously, what did I do from the very begining that you and the rest needed to act like assholes over? I didn't insult you directly other than to say I hold someone who is willing to work for their gear directly in a higher regards than someone who can only buy their gear. I didn't demand for a second for anyone to change to please me, I said "It bothers me" and not a whole lot more. Personally, I think Bajaratt needs to take whatever crawled up his ass and remove it.
 
lol. I don't think I need to explain anything

sorry for derail :p

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