Lyrai

[Raivyn]

I swear you'd think that manners just didn't even exist anymore.

To sum up the situation, I needed help to kill the Ground Strike NM in western altepa desert last night. I assembled a party, looked for friends who were available, but for the life of me couldn't find a white mage. Eventually I see Lyrai's name pop up - and remembered that she had seemed pretty nice. I politely ask her if she would help.

Lyrai>> There a reward involved in this?
Raivyn>> A Job well done? ^^;
Lyrai>> Well i've got stuff to do.

So I offer a reward. Whatever - time she could've spent farming - not a big deal. She asks what is involved and I tell her 'go to western altepa desert, go to E-9, pwn an NM, end of story'.

So after pt is all together we head out. I realize I made a mistake when she starts blaming others for no real problem. The party went two different directions, both were acceptable, and she freaks out when someone says 'you're goin the wrong way XD'. She accuses me of not telling her what we were doing, and I ignore her and say ' (Gather together) (Western Altepa Desert) E-9.

As she is en route she is bitching, I just tune her out because it's pointless to respond. We arrive at the ??? and start to build tp - all the while she is urging us to 'hurry up'.

My main beef is something that has been mentioned recently on these boards. Use of 'I know' and 'don't tell me how to do my job'.

I begin to highlight the fight real quick, mention skillchain, backup tank, etc. I then say 'NM does AOE paralyze so please watch out for it'. What response do I get for this...? "I know, I'm not new to this whm thing you know".

Lyrai - are you really so insecure that when someone highlights fight strategy you are offended?

I witheld her 20k until she talked to me about it today. At the end of our conversation I sent the money because she felt she deserved it. If I pay for help I expect to be able to ensure mission success. Wish I'd been more upfront about it.

Like I said Lyrai - I hope your shitty attitude works out for you, which I'm sure it will since you're a white mage. God knows I let it work for you. Fuck.

 

[Asplode]

What about the actual NM fight?

This story is very anticlimatic.

 

[Raivyn]

NM fight went fine, I didn't get para'd once by her, and our nin did a great job tanking it. He mijin gaukure'd at end. I got ground strike.

It's not meant to entertain, just to say that she is yet another bitchy whm that you can't so much as suggest anything to.

 

[xKronox]

A small handfull of WHM's tend to be insecure and bitchy.

Is that an understatement? I was trying to be modest.

 

[Answa~]

Truffle Shuffle! :lol:

A lot of WHMs and RDMs, not all of them, of course, have that kind of attitude and they get away with it because they are always needed. It sucks, but it's true. The worst part is that a lot of these people suck at doing their job, yet they still breeze through it. I won't say most, because it'd be a lie, but I can reiterate that it's a lot.

We just have to cope with these people, or if the leader has the heart for it, boot the person; I'd never be able to do that.

 

[Raivyn]

I wish I would've just told her to get fucked, then I wouldn't feel like such a bitch.

 

[Lyrai]

Ok, I'd like to clear this up. I'm not saying I'm right or wrong, I'm just trying to make a statement.

Yesterday, I had a mission to go to in a little while, but I had gotten a tell from Raivyn to see if I would help with the WS Quest. The only reason I asked for a reward was because of the possibility of missing the mission(Which I did.) Now honestly, I liked Raivyn up until today. I would have helped him even if there wasn't a reward, I was simply asking if he was offering it or not.

I don't remember "bitching" the entire way. I really don't. I guess what I had said was taken the wrong way. As for saying I didn't know where we were going, most likely I had zoned and missed the tell of the position of the ???. I knew it was in Western Altepa Desert, but that's about it. I didn't notice people were going a different way than me and, I believe it was the MNK. Someone said "You're going the wrong way XD" But I didn't know it was directed at me. Only thing I can remember about going to wherever it was, was going to Rabao to get a choco, so that's the way I was headed.

When Raivyn spoke to me tonight, I was defending my position. I had asked him to explain to me what I was "bitching" about, but he didn't. I'm sarcastic sometimes, and most people don't appreciate my humor, but I can't help it.

Yes, I was urging them to hurry up, but they were fighting everything that spawned, and like I had told Raivyn to begin with, I had plans.

I asked what type of monster we were going to be fighting, and I was told Tiger. I know it does AOE Paralyze, I'm 73WHM I think I know how to handle it. That's all I ment by my statement. I don't need to be told by someone of a different job, of how to do my job. It's not like I'm a bad WHM, people have partied with me before and I can't recall complaints.

And I know for a fact I did use Paralyna on the party, but the RDM was subbing WHM, and helped take care of it while I casted other magic, not to mention it's hard to Paralyna others when you're trying to Paralyna yourself, though I did move back farther after the first time.

Tonight I had made the point to him that he DID get his Weapon skill, no deaths, no trouble. He got what he payed for, though he honestly didn't have to pay.

I also made the comment to him, "You don't tell a PLD to provoke right?" Because it's something already obvious to do. That's the only point I'm trying to make in my defense. I know my job, so give me a little bit of credit before you go and flame me.

Though Raivyn, you really don't know me all that well, so you're being a little quick to judge. I'm sure some people here on the forums can back me up and say I'm not everything you say I am, not that I expect them to comment here.

And as for you saying "I wish I would've just told her to get fucked," that's got nothing to do with this situation at all, plus I'm only 16. But I think you're the one that should grow up a little bit. The only thing I regret is not flaming you first.

 

[xKronox]

:shock:

 

[Squee]

well

From several encounters with this WHM she is very insecure abouther abilities. She sucked in Crawlers Nest levels but she appeared to get a lot better later on. Everyone that has had her along for anything always seems to have a story of her only helping for gil. She never does anything for free. When you call her on this, she says that you OFFERED the reward, however if you do not offer one she always has something else to do.


Does this make her a bad person? Not at all. Just don't offer to help her w/o a litte $$$ for your efforts.

 

[Raivyn]

The only reason I asked for a reward was because of the possibility of missing the mission(Which I did.)

Ok. Great. Who cares why you asked for a reward? I have yet to say that I truly have a problem with that. In all honesty, it makes you look snooty. Also to come back and say 'well I would have helped anyways' is bullshit because then you wouldn't have asked at all. Also you didn't mention anything about missing a mission, you said you were doing something with LS, but that 'no one is on atm'. Regardless - this is all beside the point - the point being that I was paying you and as such you should have kept your mouth shut when I highlighted how I wanted it done.

I don't remember "bitching" the entire way. I really don't. I guess what I had said was taken the wrong way. As for saying I didn't know where we were going, most likely I had zoned and missed the tell of the position of the ???. I knew it was in Western Altepa Desert, but that's about it. I didn't notice people were going a different way than me and, I believe it was the MNK. Someone said "You're going the wrong way XD" But I didn't know it was directed at me. Only thing I can remember about going to wherever it was, was going to Rabao to get a choco, so that's the way I was headed.

Well your memory just sucks. Its obvious you would do anything to not look like you were in the wrong, as demonstrated by the fact that when half the 4/6ths the party went towards rabao and bah didnt, and kira said 'you're going the wrong way XD' (directed at bah) YOU started trying to defend the direction you were going, as if anyone was trying to cut you down.

Rest of the bitching I don't remember. Like I said I tuned it out. You know, the way you tune out your mom when she's saying something like "I don't know about you going to that concert..." I just didn't care what you had to say.

When Raivyn spoke to me tonight, I was defending my position. I had asked him to explain to me what I was "bitching" about, but he didn't. I'm sarcastic sometimes, and most people don't appreciate my humor, but I can't help it.

1.) What position? 2.) No you didnt 3.) When will you goddamn people learn that being sarcastic to someone you don't know just makes you a smartass?

Yes, I was urging them to hurry up, but they were fighting everything that spawned,

No shit - we needed TP... heeeeey... weren't you just spouting some bullshit about not telling others how to do their job?

and like I had told Raivyn to begin with, I had plans.

don't 'bitch' about time constraints if you accept money to be somewhere.

I asked what type of monster we were going to be fighting, and I was told Tiger. I know it does AOE Paralyze, I'm 73WHM I think I know how to handle it. That's all I ment by my statement. I don't need to be told by someone of a different job, of how to do my job. It's not like I'm a bad WHM, people have partied with me before and I can't recall complaints.

I quit - it's like teaching a pig to sing... wastes my time and annoys the pig.

[quote="Lyrai']I also made the comment to him, "You don't tell a PLD to provoke right?" Because it's something already obvious to do. That's the only point I'm trying to make in my defense. I know my job, so give me a little bit of credit before you go and flame me. [/quote]

actually a better question would be would I ASK a PLD NOT to voke - which indeed I would If i wanted to sata onto him - because each battle is different and if you want something specific you just have to ask for it.

[quote="Lyrai']Though Raivyn, you really don't know me all that well[/quote]

Nope, but like I said I did ask around to ascertain if you were always like this or just having a bad day. Everyone I asked with the exception of one said you were always like that. And stop asking me who they are it's not important.

 

[xKronox]

You fail at quoting. :x

 

[Raivyn]

You fail at quoting. :x

yeah I know 3 am and pretty tired

 

[xKronox]

You fail at quoting. :x

yeah I know 3 am and pretty tired

You're reason for forgetting to hit the fucking shift key, is that your tired?!

=

Is this what you call fucking logical?!

HUH?!

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Lol I'm just fucking with you. :wink:

 

[Kypdurrondragoon]

I know Lyrai somewhat well, she's always been nice to me. But, then again, I haven't done that much with her that needed money and whatnot. But hell, Raivyn, if she did that, I woulda told her to fuck off, booted, and found someone else to pay, ya know. I have a low tolerance on high regard mission.

 

[Biggy!]

Lyrai has serious problems
I remember doing the samurai event with the wooden swords and what-not in S.Gusta

Lyrai was there with my PT (full of my LS members) anyway AoE kills her
and she starts to ask for a raise from us. we say "you dont lose XP in this event just HP" she says "my HP is in Jeuno" and I say "well when your planing to be in an area for a while with the risk of death you set HP" she starts to tell us she needs to meet a person in Bastok to get a LS pearl and she demands we raise her. (btw if you zone all your points become reseted and we all wanted enough points for that +1 version T-T)

We say no (its not our problem) she sits there dead for 20 mins. she proceeds to tell us because of us she is going to kill herself and is going to be depressed if we dont raise her......w/e we raise her cause shes fucking crazy............where do we find her no more than 5 mins after raise? Jeuno!!! :roll: (only experiance ive had with her and already I see her as a wierd-o emo kiddy)

 

[Lyrai]

Well I'd also like to say that another reason I ask for money is because I'm on restricted gameplay time right now. I don't have time to farm, and I don't have time to waste. Oh, and I hardly even know Raivyn. Just because you party with me once, doesn't entitle you to my services for free. My friends are a different story, but you aren't that.

I'd also appreciate you not calling me "emo." I'm not anything of the sort, and it's not my fault I'm how I am. I'm currently living in a foster home, and my parents are getting a divorce. I'm also not a "kiddy," I'm 16 years old.

In regards to the event, I was back in Jeuno because I missed getting the pearl. The person had logged off because I was late. The reason I was pissed, was because people I considered my friends, basically told me "fuck you." How the hell would you feel? Gilga I was especially pissed at, because I've gone out of my way so many times to help him on numerous occasions.

And as for doing something with my LS, I have more than one LS. No one was online in my JP one which I'm in almost all the time, but I carry quite a few others with me.

I'd also like to know who you asked about me, because if you ask people who just don't like me because of other reasons, not because of my skills as a player, than you'll get the answer you're looking for, which is not nessicarily the truth.

And sure, I asked if there was a reward, but I never said "Pay me! Give me XXXX money." Because I don't do that, you could give me just enough to cover the cost of a chocobo, or whatever expenses were involed.

 

[Raivyn]

Well I'd also like to say that another reason I ask for money is because I'm on restricted gameplay time right now. I don't have time to farm, and I don't have time to waste. Oh, and I hardly even know Raivyn. Just because you party with me once, doesn't entitle you to my services for free. My friends are a different story, but you aren't that.

I doooooooooooon't caaaaaaaaaaaaaaaare. Stated before that I was more than happy to pay you 20,000 gil for you to tele us, cast paralyna a couple of times, and keep people alive. PAYMENT IS NOT THE ISSUE. Stop dodging the real issue - that being that you can't be civil even if you are payed to be someplace.

I'd also like to know who you asked about me, because if you ask people who just don't like me because of other reasons, not because of my skills as a player, than you'll get the answer you're looking for, which is not nessicarily the truth.

I just told you to stop asking. No. No, I will not tell you who these people are, but I will say this; I asked people who I know and trust, who I have done many things with, and who have proven themselves trustworthy to me. I wasn't looking for any specific answer - just whether or not you were like this all the time. The answer was yes, you are like this all the time.

 

[Raivyn]

As for saying I didn't know where we were going, most likely I had zoned and missed the tell of the position of the ???. I knew it was in Western Altepa Desert, but that's about it.

Okay I missed this little statement before - I totld you everything in the same /tell. If you knew we were going to western altepa there is no way you could have missed the pos, because it was right next to it in the same damn tell. People are allowed to be wrong, and admitting you're wrong sometimes could be a healthy thing for you.

 

[Moev]

Im a whm

Well to start with let me say as being a whm I like to be able to stick up for my fellow whm's. In this case it is rather hard.

I personally am sick of hearing whm's say don't tell me how to do my job. Anyone for that matter who says it. I don't see anything wrong with people going over the battle plan and telling people what is needed from each job for the battle.

I find the arguement of "you don't tell the Pld when to provoke" basically stupid and pointless. I know you all like to think that your the best at your job in the game, however stop being so full on yourself that people can't even go over a simple battle plan and point out what the monsters effects are without getting all bent out of shape over it. If you already knew, fine good for you. Simply say ok thanks I got it.

I think things are pretty out of hand when one of the most bitchist WHM's in the server has to point this out to you fellow whm's. Maybe it's time people like this put their ego's in check.

Speaking of Bitchy, I have to say I think there is nothing wrong with being a bitchy WHM. Personally I'd rather be known as a bitch then someone who is bad at her job. Being a Bitch has it's in game advantages for me. I am not constantly bothered be the Leeches who always want a "Favor" from me who are never willing to return it. I don't have to sit around and put up with stupid annoying people. If they are in my party they are simply warped and dropped from it, and if it's someone in game bothering me, they call me a Bitch, I say yup I am, end of story. It's kind of hard to argue with someone who agrees with you.

This ties into getting a reward for help. Ain't nothing wrong with that. I know this wasn't the reason for the flame, but I simply wanted to say something about it. If I know you and consider you a friend in game, that means we have mutually helped each other out many times. I wouldn't charge you same as you wouldn't charge me. Everyone else... Show Me The Gil.

I have better things to do then to run around all day doing favors for people I wont hear from again until the next time they need a favor. If you want my time better make it worth my while or hope you catch me in a good mood. Depending on who you are and how well I know you I can be the nicest person or the biggest bitch.

Lastly. Inregards to paralyna, depending on how big of an area your camp is, chances are your WHM will be paralyzed also. This means that the WHM has to paralyna themself first, and probally will be unable to cast since they are paralyzed. It is always bad news for a nin tank, since atleast a pld is built to take hits.

Most people don't realize that in this case it is the 1st pirority to paralyna the WHM over the NIN. Anyone who has the ability to cast paralyna should be casting it on the WHM. Reason is simple. With a NIN tank, if he hasn't been hit already due to paralyze very soon he will be. If the whm can't even cast paralyna on themself how are they suppost to keep the NIN alive long enough to cure them and cast a flash so they can recast shadows?

Nobody went into this in the posts I saw, so I don't know what happened. All I am saying is if the WHM was paralyzed and nobody casted a paralyna on them you can't really fault them for being unable to cast in a timely fashion. I know that when I have been paralyzed it sometimes took upto the third time I tryed to cast paralyna on myself to finally be able to remove it. That is more then enough time for a mob or a NM to kill the tank and cause some serious trouble.

 

[Squadup]

every1 kno lyrai is a crazy bitch.