Mabel & Cix

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Hello. This is my first time on the Flameboard, but I need to share a problem. Lately, I have been facing some (only from a select few) hate for my ability to play BLM. For those who I've partied with, my style with BLM does not deserve scorn, but nearly praise.

Anyway, I was in an exp pt in Bibiki Bay, hunting gobs. The WHM, Mabel, was obsessed with me Stunning every single Bomb Toss. I told her, at first in /tell, then in /party when it got out of control, that sometimes, I'm casting another spell, and much to my chagrin, I can only cast 1 spell at a time.

She was adamant in her own decision. A quixotic person, she did not see why I couldn't just not cast and only Stun all Bomb Tosses. She said she did not want to heal as much, which is a completely OK thing to say, but not on the cusp of fervor and hurting the other pt members experience. Anyway, I told her that I would make a more conscious effort to stun, but not outright stop casting. She blatantly warped back to Jeuno, w/o even a notice to the rest of the pt............We disbanded, as the search of a new WHM proved insignificant.


Today, I was asking ppl if they wanted to do Windy mission 7-2. I asked Cix, noticing she was on rank 7 windy too. She responded:

Cix>>I don't pt with ppl who cant even stun bomb tosses
Me>>???
Cix>>G
Cix>>I
Cix>>M
Cix>>P
Cix>>bye bye now

See? Is that appropriate? "o nooz!! n00bz!! u cant sTuN evry gob b0mB!! noobz!!" Last time I checked, I played BLM fairly well. w/e
 
ok.. but were you stunning any bomb tosses? even when you weren't casting? I'm not saying you didn't, but just seems like she's (?) awfully irritated lol I do know some blms that don't stun when they should, mostly cause they are /heal and not paying attention :p
 
Mabel is a dumb bitch! that's my 2 cents on it. there is a reason she's still what a 70whm, is she 70 yet? she's got a bad attitude that needs to be put in check. as far as cix goes, i duno about his/her issue.

the deal with bomb tosses is pretty retarted if you ask me. bomb toss doesn't hurt that bad if the whm keeps barfira up *cough* nOOb whm! another thing, dont jump the blm or drk because they can't stun every single bomb toss. TANKS you can help with this also, i do it and i'm not that high of lvl yet. i learned how from a japanese taru ninja when we didn't have a whm in the party for barfira. RUN AWAY!! when you see it preparing bomb toss. when i tank Gobs now i keep auto target off and my view in 3rd person so i can quickly run backwards away from the group take the bomb and run back.

THINK NOOBS!! there are more answers then OMGFYFNOOB STUN!!! STUN!!! STUN!!!
 
btw i do stun BOMB TOSS if i can, and your blms are dumb sitting on there ass healing and not stunning well refer to my first post on this as why that should be ok. if i need magic the keep going i'm going to rest get outs my face. you can only stun once every what minute?
 
I personally like when the gobs toss bombs for that one chance they'll drop it. Just need to keep barfira up :3
 
stunning bomb toss is very impractical for a blm. First of all, if youve ever been in that position, stunning bomb toss takes a very quick reaction. Its not like stunning a thundaga 3 or something like that. Bomb toss activates at about the speed of a cure spell.

Also, when a blm isnt nuking, he should be resting MP to make sure he has enough to further the chain. If he stands up during all fights, he wont make it to chain 5 and/or it will take him longer to bounce back after a chain.

The only time you should ever consider stunning every bomb toss is with a DRK. DRKs never have need to rest, and are right there next to the mob at all times with few other time consuming responsibilities. But even then, its very difficult to stay that focused and aware fight after fight. I wouldn't expect anyone to be prepared to stun such a fast casting ability in a party setting.. but if they want to be an overachiever, more power to them.
 
A DRK can Stun MOST bomb tosses as long as they are paying attention. Even the slightest bit of lag can throw off the timing, or if they are in the middle of a WS or a buff or whatever. And you can't forget that Stun has a pretty high recast timer so if a gob gets TP quickly all we have left is Weapon Bash which isn't guaranteed Stun.

Having said that, a DRK should be able to Stun 4 outta 5 Bomb Tosses on average, it's not hard. A BLM I wouldn't ask to Stun any bombs unless they just happen to not be doing anything else. I'd rather they focus on more important things.
 
He refused to stun bomb tosses because it was "Too hard" I caleld him gimp. End of story. Oh yeah..
"CRY MOAR NOOB!"
 
Cix said:
He refused to stun bomb tosses because it was "Too hard" I caleld him gimp. End of story. Oh yeah..
"CRY MOAR NOOB!"
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based on the OP, and everyone else's feelings about it so far, him not stunning every bomb doesn't make him a gimp.
 
Rhinegold fails @ Flames. Probily does fail at BLM too...

OMFG BURN!!!1111oneoneoneone
 
Yes, Bajaratt, but I didnt say anything about all the bombs. I called him gimp for refusing to try. Thank you.
 
Cix said:
Yes, Bajaratt, but I didnt say anything about all the bombs. I called him gimp for refusing to try. Thank you.
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You are gimp for asking him to Stun Bomb Tosses.


Nuff said.
 
Cix said:
Yes, Bajaratt, but I didnt say anything about all the bombs. I called him gimp for refusing to try. Thank you.
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Again, based on the OP, which is really all there is to go on, he never said he wouldn't try. He said that he couldn't stun them all, because he had other things to do in the party.
 
Bajaratt said:
Again, based on the OP, which is really all there is to go on, he never said he wouldn't try. He said that he couldn't stun them all, because he had other things to do in the party.
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Alright, since youre basing it on the OP.
But basing it on what I saw it was not the case, that is all.
 
You never said that the OP had anything wrong, but now you're saying things are different based on what you saw, when there's no mention of you in the party or near it. Wne of you is wrong; which is it: Rhinegold or you? Did he refuse to stun any bombs or did he say he can't when he's casting another spell but he's trying?

Either way, the whm's reaction is unwarranted. Warping away immediately like that is very rude.
 
Cix said:
Alright, since youre basing it on the OP.
But basing it on what I saw it was not the case, that is all.
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Cix, if you have some privileged facts that say different, do you care to share them?

Saying, "I know otherwise!" isn't good enough on the flameboard; you can't expect people to infer what you might know that's making you say something.

By OP's account, he said he'd try to stop tosses if possible. Every post here so far seems to think that for a blm, that's not so possible. And seriously, parties learn as early as the jungles that barfira + drop = free exp, or barfira + tank-runs-away = easy healing. Also, shield bash, weapon bash, any stun ws from a melee or tank not in the skillchain . . . blm's are in parties for damage, not to make the battle slow, protracted, and mp-draining. And the mp efficiency of a magic burst has got to be better than camping the mob's tp to stun, and I bet it even makes up for the mp the whm has to use to slap on a few regens after the fight.

Rhinegold, I don't think you're gimp.
 
Valoran said:
Cix, if you have some privileged facts that say different, do you care to share them?

Saying, "I know otherwise!" isn't good enough on the flameboard; you can't expect people to infer what you might know that's making you say something.

By OP's account, he said he'd try to stop tosses if possible. Every post here so far seems to think that for a blm, that's not so possible. And seriously, parties learn as early as the jungles that barfira + drop = free exp, or barfira + tank-runs-away = easy healing. Also, shield bash, weapon bash, any stun ws from a melee or tank not in the skillchain . . . blm's are in parties for damage, not to make the battle slow, protracted, and mp-draining. And the mp efficiency of a magic burst has got to be better than camping the mob's tp to stun, and I bet it even makes up for the mp the whm has to use to slap on a few regens after the fight.

Rhinegold, I don't think you're gimp.
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Of course I'll share with you!
Mabel happens to be my Mom, and she sits right next to me. I can see her screen when she plays, what she does, etc.
I was present when this happened, and Rhinegold's account is similiar to the truth, but a little bit exaggerated.
He did refuse to stun, and thats the basis of me calling him Gimp. Not because he couldnt, not because he didnt stun them all, but because he made no effort to, while throwing out excuses.
I even did some research. I asked around to a small number of BLMs, and looked at my own personal experience, and I know it isnt typical to ask to stun all, or even most of the bombs as BLMs. However, the effort to stun is widely expected, according to these BLMs, especially in Bibiki.
So, now that I've laid my information and opinion on the table, I get to see if it was asked for merely to be disagreed with, or because they actually wanted to know.
 
Cix said:
Of course I'll share with you!
Mabel happens to be my Mom, and she sits right next to me. I can see her screen when she plays, what she does, etc.
I was present when this happened, and Rhinegold's account is similiar to the truth, but a little bit exaggerated.
He did refuse to stun, and thats the basis of me calling him Gimp. Not because he couldnt, not because he didnt stun them all, but because he made no effort to, while throwing out excuses.
I even did some research. I asked around to a small number of BLMs, and looked at my own personal experience, and I know it isnt typical to ask to stun all, or even most of the bombs as BLMs. However, the effort to stun is widely expected, according to these BLMs, especially in Bibiki.
So, now that I've laid my information and opinion on the table, I get to see if it was asked for merely to be disagreed with, or because they actually wanted to know.
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So you're not buying the whole, can-only-cast-one-spell-at-a-time defense?
 
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