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Thnikkaman

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Time for my second rant on this Flameboard...
What the hell is up with the mages today? And I mean all mages. White Mage, Black Mage, Red Mage, Bard... It's actually really scaring me. You see a White Mage in Garlaige that doesn't know how to cure. And when that WHM does cure, it takes it forever to get to it. Like... my friend was in a party a couple nights ago... and the WHM let two people die because she wasn't paying attention. I partied with another WHM a couple months ago that took him so long to cast Cure, I was dead before I got the mob down to like half health.

It's also making me feel strange seeing nothing but Elvaan BLM's leveling up now. Elvaan have the worst INT, and second-worst MP in the game. Compared to a Taru, who would do like 10x the damage that an Elvaan would do. Especially when seeing that Elvaan BLM's don't go for any other equipment other than DEF equip.

The Red Mages and Bards seem to do nothing but Refresh. That's not all they're good for. You see some good Bards out there that go back and forth and make sure every character has the exact right songs, then they help the healer with the curing and stuff. You see other Bards there that use Ballad, then maybe at the most would use Spirited Etude on the WHM (which still awes me because MND is damn useless for cures). Also, some RDM's are good and stuff, and they use Refresh, and Dispel, and Cure, and nukes... You see lots of RDM's who just spam Refresh on the party the whole fight. In fact, lots of times I have to spam "(Refresh) (Can I have it?)" to the RDM. Even then, the first priority of Refresh is themselves, then the BLM, then the PLD, then the DRK, then the WHM.

Or people who wear completely irrelivant armor to whatever mage job they're using. Like the WHM I partied with the other day, he was wearing STR and DEX equipment. He had no MP or MND equip on at all. Or the other WHM I saw wearing nothing but INT equip. Or BLM's wearing DEF equip.
The one I notice the most are Bards who wear nothing but MND and MP equipment. Especially when they're Mithra or something that actually NEEDS Charisma.

Also, I'm getting sick of Mages running past people who are either dead or low on HP or something. I'm resting after a long fight as WAR or something solo, and a WHM75 passes me, and stops, then just keeps going. I was in Delkfutt the other day, and this RDM passes me. I ask him for a cure, he rests beside me. After like 2 minutes of resting, he cures me to full, rests again, Protect and Shells me, then gives me Haste. THAT is what Mages should do. I do it all the time. People appreciate little things like that. I'm sure you all know what I'm talking about. I always stop to cure people or raise people. I even Escape people from dungeons if I'm not in a hurry to power level or party or something.

Anyway, let's hear your opinions to this. See who agrees, who disagrees, who knows who I'm talking about.
 
Isn't garlaige cidated still considered to be a noob'ish leveling area? I thought the status of noob wears off at like 40. Maybe even 50 these days. Or were you leveling in the basement?

As far as the equipment is concerned... it may be that those players are just leveling whm, rdm, or blm as a subjob and don't have the money to buy leet gearz. Still no excuse, but I know for a fact my whm is missing a few top notch pieces because I only bring him out like once every 3 months or so. But DEX, STR, and Defense... that's just retarded. They should have just left the slot empty or bought some lvl 14 crap. Hell, they coulda killed those friggin worms out in that low level goblin area out by south gustaburg (forgot name)...

Anyway, that's just sad. No matter what job you level, if you're gonna be playing with other people (bst excluded) you SHOULD have as good of gear as you can get and you SHOULD know how to do your damn job...
 
garlaige citadel*

forgive my spelling. i just woke up and am on my first cup of coffee...
 
stfu.

That is all.







Sure you have a point but you have ruined your welcome here on qcdn, thus invalidating yourself.
 
wtf? gtfo if that's your only comment in this thread..
 
lol thanks... ^^

/drool

what'd thnikkman do?
 
YES lots and lots of dumb ass mages and melee for that fact >.<

Last night i partied with a blm that had decent gear but was dumber then shit about the job. she knew 2 spells it seamed. Thundaga 2 and burst

wtf this chick would just cast burst out of no where. i asker her why she said it does the most damage. for a lil while i was playing blm in party with her and whm outside of party(luckly or we all would of died >.<) my thundaga 2 almost tied her Burst lol, people like that amaze me. when i finally was like wtf this is stupid. she casted out of the blue not for a skillchain or anything, so i started right after her on burst. I beat her by 100 damage +. and was drained of mp. she casted thundaga 2 after waiting halfway through the fight then would do burst. seriously people come on. Redmages that dont silence mobs. i took a firaga 3 to the face and died cause the rdm casted blind before silence on a blm gob :/ RDM's not dispelling and doing enefebbels when they can clearly see blaze spikes up. impatent pricks pulling while the rng is pulling, so we have 2 mobs instead of one >.< then attacking the sleeping one while were trying to rest up from the first. Oh let me add the blm casted Thundaga 2 with the gob standing right by her and said "I didn't see it" >.< woke it up just after the rdm slept it.

These are examples from lastnight but its pretty common everywhere now it seams.

It a grip people, if you can't play a job STOP LVLING IT!!
 
Are there not enough high level mages giving noob mages advice or what?! Jesus! When I was leveling blm, if i I didn't know something, I'd get my ass chewed. I remember a japanese dude tearing into me cuz I didn't know what stun was for... But that shit taught me how to play. Next time this happens, don't be afraid to tell them how to do their job. Hell, as a 75blm, if you ever see me not doing something right, feel free to tell ME how to do my job as well. :P
 
Meh, I don't buy into the MPK attempt. I think he may have fugged up, but I wouldn't call it an MPK. Regardless, that was a while ago. It's a good post anyway :P
 
Let's just stay on topic
 
/sigh
MND is important to WHM.

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As far as these parties where people are wearing gear that is not the "best" choice of gear-- what levels are these parties? If they're pre-40 I'm guessing they're like me and don't place a lot of effort into the choice of mage gear. I'm not going to shell out of a ton of gil on a subjob if I have some decent gear laying around that can at least get the job done.

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Elvaan's lvling BLM: Who are you to tell them they can't. That's like telling a galka that he shouldn't be a mage because of his small MP pool, or a mithra she shouldn't become a PLD because of low vit, or a tarutaru that they shouldn't be any job other than a mage.

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Poor performance is one thing. Some simply lack guidance. Poor gear selections could be due to the particular level or the person's gil supply. Some people are actually still learning their roles in party. Being that people are able to level at a much drastically faster pace now-- you are going to see "noobs" at much higher level ranges because it is so easy for them to do so. There are things I pick up on SMNer even now. There are things that I've learned on WHM that "I wish I would've known then"... If you know yourself to be a good player, relax a bit. If you know yourself to have great gear be proud of what you have. If you see a person in your party that you know is absolutely not even putting forth any type of effort.. remove them. Try to be polite about it first though, and perhaps even make subtle suggestions.

We are so quick to notice a "bad player".. maybe take the time out to compliment someone for doing a job well done..

And drink tea..
 
pakomen said:
I didn't know what stun was for... But that shit taught me how to play.

i dont think she knew either >.< since i was the only one the stun bomb toss, she spent half the fight casting aga spells and anceint magic. I get sick of telling people they suck. all they do is bitch at you and tell you your an idiot. the chick was rank 9 so i was totally expecting it. she was friends with the leader that wanted the kick me already cause his dumb ass didn't look at my comment and read i was 1800tnl >.<

Its sad that i'm almost the 70 and i was playing 3 jobs between 2 characters and only getting xp for one, while the others just slack off and continue the suck it up. Didn't even use Elemental Torque had +1 everything for Int and MAB but a Black silk necrocheif? and i still whoped her ass on damage LOL >.<
 
LOL I love it when idiots try to pull rank. As if rank has anything to do with your talent as a player.
 
Thnikkaman said:
Time for my second rant on this Flameboard...
Also, I'm getting sick of Mages running past people who are either dead or low on HP or something. I'm resting after a long fight as WAR or something solo, and a WHM75 passes me, and stops, then just keeps going. I was in Delkfutt the other day, and this RDM passes me. I ask him for a cure, he rests beside me. After like 2 minutes of resting, he cures me to full, rests again, Protect and Shells me, then gives me Haste. THAT is what Mages should do. I do it all the time. People appreciate little things like that. I'm sure you all know what I'm talking about. I always stop to cure people or raise people. I even Escape people from dungeons if I'm not in a hurry to power level or party or something.

Tell me about it, me as a elvaan pld i have lil MP but I offten stop and help people with cure and protect. sometimes if i see someone soloing something and looks like the fight is going bad ill stop and help them. I dont know how many times ive been out soloing and a mage will just run by /check you and stop then keep going and youll be on the brink of death. In this game id just like to see more people honestly play their characters. My whole reason of playing pld was to help people so I always try to stop and help people.
 
Bah.... lvl 30 n00bs are not as bad as the multitude of n00bs 70+ running around. To make matters worse, everything SE does to "help" has the oposite affect. This new expansion better be kick ass....
 
yes my highest rank is 6 and thats cause my time of playing limits me from joining groups the go any higher. but i have studied all my jobs more then a drg lfp LOL its what i do on update times. and all day at work.

but after the first few times of trying to give advice and being told im a fing nOOb and needed the stfu i just decided the stop and hope they never made it any farther /sigh

MND is very curcaial(spelled that wrong) for whm. it does cap eventually on what a cure can do but it helps with bara spells and stoneskin. i think it aids a lil inprotect haven't tested that. but the have str and dex over mnd is dumb. int over mnd is dumb.

as blm elvan's can be blm they just require a lil more work and a lil more money like a taru pld. NEVER SAY NEVER in this game, there are a lot of good people that will drop your jaw when you see them perform. i hope the be on of them some day ^^ but i got a lot of work the do :oops:
 
MacMarz said:
Bah.... lvl 30 n00bs are not as bad as the multitude of n00bs 70+ running around. To make matters worse, everything SE does to "help" has the oposite affect. This new expansion better be kick ass....
I don't know how you could still be a noob at 70+...

I can understand a 70+ player not knowing how to properly play a specific area/task (uluguran range, dynamis, gods, hnm), but that's something that goes away with time.

But I'm pretty sure it's a crime to call anybody who has spent the time to get their job to 70 a noob. Call em a suckass player, but noob is off the mark. :P
 
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