Manbearpig ?

No, I've yet to see anyone call me a dumbass.
youre a dumb ass

What did the linkshell, trippy, as a hole, do to you?
even though the question was asked of me, i feel i can answer that... /clearsthroat, Manbearpigs exsistence is a blight on the game, as well as its members who dont utilize helpful suggestions that would benefit them down the road

there, i believe that should answer your question
 
Trippy, go ahead. It doesn't matter if I like your answer or not. I just want a reason to leave the linkshell other than "Well, the leader(s) was/were mean to me!" "They're filled with gimp!" "Pandetech's a dumbass!", and other small stories like that. What did the linkshell, trippy, as a hole, do to you?

Why would anything the linkshell did to me have any bearing on your decision to leave?

If I told you they anally raped my mother while pouring sugar in my gas tank and setting fire to my house, would it make a difference?

I don't give a damn about you or any linkshell that has been created since I quit playing, including, but not limited to, manbearpig.

On the topic of Pandetech... hang around him long enough and you'll have your own reasons for adding him to your ignore list. He is an ignorant child, associate with him if you want to, it will be your problem not mine.

The only reason you have for leaving that LS is one that you have adamantly chosen to dismiss. Other peoples experience with the members of that shell and it's leader. If you don't want to listen to the voice of experience, that is your problem, not mine.
 
youre a dumb ass


even though the question was asked of me, i feel i can answer that... /clearsthroat, Manbearpigs exsistence is a blight on the game, as well as its members who dont utilize helpful suggestions that would benefit them down the road

there, i believe that should answer your question

So you're saying I should leave the linkshell because other members don't utlize helpful suggestions given to them on their skill of character in-game?
Is this what the linkshell has done to you as a whole? Every single, or the majority of members have rejected your "helpful suggestions"?

And so I should leave (and if I was not a member, I should not join) the linkshell because they rejected suggestions you claimed to be helpful, by you?

Or are you just hearing stories from people?

And what may have been helpful for you doesn't necessarily prove to mean that it will be helpful for everyone else.
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1.) Why would anything the linkshell did to me have any bearing on your decision to leave?

Answer: If the linkshell, as a whole, did something to you...Then that would give me a great reason to leave. If they did something to you that was terrible, then they can do something to me that is terrible. Why would I want to be apart of a linkshell that treats its members badly?

If they anally raped your mother of course it would make a difference, because I would not want to be apart of a community that rapes people.

If you can't give an answer to my question, then why did you say you had an answer? Please, don't waste my time.

2.) The only reason you have for leaving that LS is one that you have adamantly chosen to dismiss. Other peoples experience with the members of that shell and it's leader. If you don't want to listen to the voice of experience, that is your problem, not mine.

The only experience other people have had with this shell is that "it is filled with a bunch of n00bz0rs". I haven't dismissed anything else, because there hasn't been anything else to dismiss. I have yet to hear about someone from Manbearpig MPK someone else, someone from Manbearpig threaten to kill someone else, Manbearpig writing a flame about another linkshell, or EVEN Manbearpig took my mobs.

Instead "they're a bunch of gimps".

The only reason I am asking this question is because people in this thread are saying "Oh my God, don't join the linkshell!"

But they have no right to suggest to me not to join if nothing truly bad as ever happened to them. And they especially don't have the right to say if it's a bad linkshell if they've never been inside of it.

P.S

On the topic of Pandetech...

From my experience in the game, 50% of the people like him and 50% of the people don't. You're obviously in the 50% of the people who don't like him. However, I think I've realized something. It's like, contagious. Observe.

Scenario One:

"I don't like Pandetech."

"Why?"

"He did this to me!"

Scenario Two:

"Oh wow, Pandetech held a raffle and I won an Arcane Flowerpot!"

"Cool! Why did he do that?"

"Because he's awesome!"

Now then...

People's reasons for disliking or liking Pandetech are excusable, since he is only one guy.

Disliking a linkshell is different, however...

Observe:

Scenario One:

"Oh my God, the entire Manbearpig linkshell sucks!"

"Why?"

"I was in a party with two of their members, and they were GIMPOHMYGOD!"

Scenario Two:

"Wow, this linkshell Manbearpig is amazing!"

"Why?"

"Because I've never once had a bad experience with them, and every single one of the members are helpful!"

To my final point...

Which, of these two scenarios, do you think has entered the linkshell?

Which, of these two scenarios, do you think has had a more meaningful experience with the entire shell?

Both of these scenarios, however, are still not the answer. They cannot tell me why I should or should not join the shell.

Want to know why?

Because everyone is different.

This brings me back to the 50/50 percentile.

Not everyone hates Pandetech! I don't know where you guys are getting this false idea that everyone hates him, and that gives you enough justification to harass him.

My advice?

People should experience things for themselves, then make a judgement. Don't take anyone else's word for it, because everyone is different, and everyone likes different things. No one out or in the linkshell has the right to say everyone should join it, or everyone should leave it. An entire linkshell cannot be humiliated due to one experience, and one person should not be humiliated due to many experiences in this game.

So, I'm sorry, never again tell me that I will not like the linkshell eventually, or I will not like Pandetech eventually, because of yours or anyone else's experience with the linkshell or Pandetech.
 
Like I said, I can answer your question, but you won't like my answer.

Come talk to me about the situation after you get to 75 where the game actually starts.

Blah blah blah? Shows your maturity.

I already said you can answer it, but if you can't, I suppose you're in the same predicament as Psylentcuda.

Good luck with that.
 
It's kinda like how after 9/11 started a lot of people started hating Asians.
 
Blah blah blah? Shows your maturity.

I already said you can answer it, but if you can't, I suppose you're in the same predicament as Psylentcuda.

Good luck with that.

me said:
The only reason you have for leaving that LS is one that you have adamantly chosen to dismiss. Other peoples experience with the members of that shell and it's leader. If you don't want to listen to the voice of experience, that is your problem, not mine.

There is your answer again. Can you see it this time?
 
There is your answer again. Can you see it this time?

I didn't think that was your answer, since it was so easily dismissed and you had not replied to it.

Also, you said you could answer my question, which would mean that you were saying that you had the ability to. However, you would not need to say this if you had already done so.

Since you already answered the question, and then for you to say that you could answer the question would only imply that you haven't answered the question yet, but that you could.

So excuse me for not keeping up.

Anything else?

Or are you just going to fail again. D:<
 
I had the Brady Guide. I was WAR/WHM until level 33, 'cause the guide said it was kewl.


I think people need to lighten up a bit too. Why does it always have to be about OMGIGOTTAGET1000000XPANHR!!!!111!!11!

I mean, it's one thing to offer other players advice, but to cram it down their throat...
Seriously though, if there is a person in your party that is making you miss out on that extra 800XP an hour because they don't have a +1 version equipment, I'd say that is probably your problem that you need to address by finding other people to party with.

Is the whole "giving a fish" vs "teaching to fish" argument here though. Giving newer players advice on how to handle links or where to XP and such will help them learn to become better players overall. If you PL them to 30 and hand them some keys, they're up for a damn rough time when they get Goblin Smithy agro and have absolutely no idea how to handle it, and it'll only get worse from there.

Because they were PLed to 30, they never took (or even needed) the time to stop and farm items for gil, which they likely now have absolutely no idea how or where good spots are to get some. This also typically ends very badly.

Saying people at L30+ have an excuse to miss vital equipment slots due to being 'new at a game' is a joke. Even playing Dragon Warrior III at age 7 I knew that having empty equipment slots was a bad thing. In pretty much every RPG ever made, empty equipment slots is a bad thing. That being said, it's not exactly a brainbuster to realize that it'd be a bad thing in this game as well.
 
Is the whole "giving a fish" vs "teaching to fish" argument here though. Giving newer players advice on how to handle links or where to XP and such will help them learn to become better players overall. If you PL them to 30 and hand them some keys, they're up for a damn rough time when they get Goblin Smithy agro and have absolutely no idea how to handle it, and it'll only get worse from there.

Because they were PLed to 30, they never took (or even needed) the time to stop and farm items for gil, which they likely now have absolutely no idea how or where good spots are to get some. This also typically ends very badly.

Saying people at L30+ have an excuse to miss vital equipment slots due to being 'new at a game' is a joke. Even playing Dragon Warrior III at age 7 I knew that having empty equipment slots was a bad thing. In pretty much every RPG ever made, empty equipment slots is a bad thing. That being said, it's not exactly a brainbuster to realize that it'd be a bad thing in this game as well.

You've never been in the linkshell, so I don't suppose you'd understand.

However, I've repeated this several times already.

I'm in the linkshell, and I've observed that THEY TEACH PLAYERS HOW TO HELP THEMSELVES, INSTEAD OF DOING ALL THE WORK THEMSELVES.

And the problem is, you can't say otherwise, because you aren't in the linkshell.

Bye.
 
You've never been in the linkshell, so I don't suppose you'd understand.

However, I've repeated this several times already.

I'm in the linkshell, and I've observed that THEY TEACH PLAYERS HOW TO HELP THEMSELVES, INSTEAD OF DOING ALL THE WORK THEMSELVES.

And the problem is, you can't say otherwise, because you aren't in the linkshell.

Bye.

You don't seem to understand that no one wants to be in the shell because the members are idiots. I have had plenty of interaction with ManBearPig members. If anyone at all like pandetech, Kumar, or you is in the shell, i'd want no part of it.

There is not a single person on qcdn that would agree to join your shell, and the reason is because the people make the shell. If the people suck, and they do FROM MY EXPERIENCE, the shell sucks. I AM NOT TELLING YOU TO LEAVE THE SHELL. I am telling you I would not join based on imperical evidence. That is my opinion, and if you were me, you would have the same opinion and you can't say otherwise because you are not me.
 
I just ran into a member of MBP. They kept bragging about having a second char with 16 min. Yet they were super gimp.
 
You don't seem to understand that no one wants to be in the shell because the members are idiots. I have had plenty of interaction with ManBearPig members. If anyone at all like pandetech, Kumar, or you is in the shell, i'd want no part of it.

There is not a single person on qcdn that would agree to join your shell, and the reason is because the people make the shell. If the people suck, and they do FROM MY EXPERIENCE, the shell sucks. I AM NOT TELLING YOU TO LEAVE THE SHELL. I am telling you I would not join based on imperical evidence. That is my opinion, and if you were me, you would have the same opinion and you can't say otherwise because you are not me.

Thanks, trippy. Your first paragraph I've already addressed, and it's that everyone likes different types of people. If you think they're idiots, that's your opinion. I've already stated that they've helped me, so I like them.

And anyways, there are plenty of people on qcdn that are in my shell, and the reason is because they like the people who made my shell. If the people are being helped, that means other people are helping them. I KNOW YOU'RE NOT TELLING ME TO LEAVE THE SHELL. But this thread is advising people to stay away from the shell. Since I'm in the shell, I'd just like to know why they're advising people to stay away from it if they've never experienced the feeling of being inside the shell before.

You say I don't listen to the voice of experience. Which voice are you talking about? The voice outside of the shell or inside of the shell?
 
Thanks, trippy. Your first paragraph I've already addressed, and it's that everyone likes different types of people. If you think they're idiots, that's your opinion. I've already stated that they've helped me, so I like them.

And anyways, there are plenty of people on qcdn that are in my shell, and the reason is because they like the people who made my shell. If the people are being helped, that means other people are helping them. I KNOW YOU'RE NOT TELLING ME TO LEAVE THE SHELL. But this thread is advising people to stay away from the shell. Since I'm in the shell, I'd just like to know why they're advising people to stay away from it if they've never experienced the feeling of being inside the shell before.

You say I don't listen to the voice of experience. Which voice are you talking about? The voice outside of the shell or inside of the shell?

If there is a shell that has members with empty gear slots as late as level 25, I want to stay away fom them. The reason? I want to have fun. Winning is fun. Doing well is fun. Being good at the game and playing with others that are good is fun. Playing with people that can't do their job because their gear sucks is not fun. Melee with no gear? Good luck hitting anything. Mage with no gear? Probably means you can't be bothered to buy all your spells either. Not to mention even if you have em, your MP pool will be tiny, you'll have no -enmity, and you'll be resisted on any nuke or enfeeble you may try to throw. No gear pretty much means no food too. No food at any level is inexcusable.

Therefore, stay away from Manbearpig members.
 
I told you that he wouldn't get it.
 
meh quoted wrong thing. Previous post re: Seemehow saying he knows the first blu on the server zomg!
 
Sorry, guess I should have read more than the first 5 pages before posting...


Rage - please please please please please please please please please please learn how to use an ellipsis, separate your quotes with the [/quote ] tag for your rebuttals, and form coherent sentences. Also, you don't necessarily have to quote the entire thread each time you want to reply to a previous poster.

Pandetech is a crossplaying opportunist who has never gotten anywhere in this game on this server because he doesn't know how to play, has horribly weak social skills, and his only reason for being is to scam, cajole, or beg gil out of people. Hes scum, worse than scum actually... as his idiocy is apparently contagious. He's not trying to help you. He'll borrow money to fund an LS "Bank" and then disband the shell with it someday, or he'll "borrow" your character for a bit and you'll end up unable to access the account and whining to all of us on here that you just don't know what happened. The reason his shells usually target incoming new players is because theyre NEW, and have no knowledge of this forum where they can go to tell others about it when he scams them.

Imagine all the players who quit in their first month because all they found was a shell run by pandetech or his "cousin" mass recruiting into some parasitic circle jerk.

It boggles the mind.
 
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