Meastoso and Garbageman Pauk

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You openly complained about how how broke you were in Sora. All we heard was how poor you were. How if you didn't get THF knife you'd quit. If N. body didn't drop soon you'd quit. If you couldn't get this or that you'd quit.

Even ask your good friends (if you had any in sora) about how much you bitched about gil in LS. It doesn't surprise me that someone you claim you don't know heard you crying about it.

You're a joke to anyone who met you before your new found wealth.
 
Zalbag said:
In most situations I'd agree 100%. Thing is though Fubio and the people who were present during this situation aren’t exactly on the best of terms. They're not likely to help each other out if they were in trouble. Thus when he translated in /s Do you need any help? It does seem a little fishy. Not to mention that the monoliths that control the gate are a few seconds away from where Fubio was. If his goal was to be pulling for his party when he was heading for the gate and if he noticed the gate was down why didn’t he turn back to get the button? He can't exactly reach his mobs through the gate. Not to mention that your visibility isn't exactly the best when the gate is down. You'd have to be standing right by the gate to see a taru stuck on the other side, which is the race meastoso is.

If Fubio's task at the time was to pull mobs he would've been going back to hit the switch that some other pt might've just closed. But instead he was standing there to see the taru die. My guess is he laughed about it in ls or /p and the GM's read his chat logs. As we all know GM's don't take action without evidence. But again I wasn't there but from what was said I personally came to this conclusion.
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Does this mean that everytime someone thinks they were slighted, they should get a gm to check the other party's logs?

Zalbag said:
What is with you and your blatant hate for Kaizen? Yes, I'm a member in Kaizen. No, I don't expect people to bend over backwards because I'm in the shell. And as for AV we had 3 members watching it. 2/3 was under lv60. They were told ask if our shell was trying to steal it. And no. I don't think if someone doesn't help that it makes them guilty. Read my response above I provided the reasons on which I came to that conclusion. Your posts are becoming more and more childish. I like how you turned a kaizen member being possibly mpk'd into a kaizen hate speech.

For the record sire. I am in Kaizen. I'm not kaizen. It is a shell full of many different people. 90% of which have done absolutely nothing to you. Try to keep that in mind the next time you feel the need to bash the shell as a whole.
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Well, if you really want to know. I think your ls is shady. Your ls consists of members that use other ls to get the gear they want and then jump ship to join u guys. People that have no loyalties to others that actually got them to that point. A certain rdm that got w. legs and jumped to your ls the very same day comes to mind. But he's not the only person. It happens all the time. The ls that actually did all the work end up at square 1, while your ls gets people already geared up and ready to go, thus stifling other ls'.

Also some of your members attitudes towards other people and ls'. Im not saying you in particular, but there are other kaizen members that think they are God's gift to final fantasy. And they are vocal about it. Its the elitest attitude. Its widespread throughout your shell.

There are other reasons that have been mentioned in recent threads. Im not going to bring them up here, but if you really want to know, I'm sure you can find them.

As for AV. It doesnt matter what their lvl was. They werent helping. They were just there, hovering. Everyone else that was there from other ls' were contributing. It was refreshing to see. But members from your shell just stood there? One was even a person who has immense disdain for anteres. Why was he there? If they werent going to help, what other reason are they there for? Scouting in case of a massive wipe? Adding to the lag just because they could? Did he laugh in the ls when things didnt go anteres' way? Should a gm have banned him for that?

Edit: not tryin to derail. Zalbag asked me why i dont like kaizen much,and thats my answer.
 
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Meeze what you say means nothing at all, you just talk shit and say anything you can to try and put people down. I had/have many good friends in sora. If i dont get theif knife ill quit? If i dont get Nbody Ill quit? Please just stop posting, you are ridiculous. I was in Temple for over 100 kills. if i was going to quit should i have stopped way before that? And Nbody, why would i say im going to quit over Nbody? I was always first for it, i was the only thief in the ls, i was never worried about that. I dont see what your problem is with me, why cant you just get over whatever it is?
 
Fubio, honestly I wasn't paying attention to what he was pulling, especially as a bard with all my song spam I miss a bunch. All I know is that your party started coming into our room to pull our mobs as they spawned, so meastoso did it to you once and comes back dead due to the door closing on him. We were also no where near the controls and killing a mob at the time, which is why we didn't have someone waiting, rappa.

I never specifically blamed you, as it could have been one of the JP in your party, I was just responding to people who said it couldn't possibly be an mpk or griefing.
 
Lol baja, you say he did it "Once" and came back dead? He did it many times he /waved to me every single time he passed me after taking a mob from "our" side of the room. And you did accuse me of MPK, You said that was a dick move. What was the dick move? Asking him if he needed help with the 2 mobs he purposely pulled? It wasnt aggro.. oh and Zalbag, why do you keep talking like you've been told what happened? Yet what you are talking about is totaly false? The switch was seconds behind me? Im on Meastoso's side of the door, while the door is shut, but its seconds behind me? I dont get it, i realize your in kaizen so you have to stick up for him, but atleast get your story straight dude. :/
 
Fubio said:
Meeze what you say means nothing at all, you just talk shit and say anything you can to try and put people down. I had/have many good friends in sora. If i dont get theif knife ill quit? If i dont get Nbody Ill quit? Please just stop posting, you are ridiculous. I was in Temple for over 100 kills. if i was going to quit should i have stopped way before that? And Nbody, why would i say im going to quit over Nbody? I was always first for it, i was the only thief in the ls, i was never worried about that. I dont see what your problem is with me, why cant you just get over whatever it is?
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I can't answer your questions, because you were the one crying about it. N. body was taking time to drop, knife wasn't dropping. You stopped helping out in the LS around the time you started camping THF knife, and would fake AFK during LS events.

Your participation was close to nothing after we got you siroco knife and your N. gear. The whole while we heard your emoness over LS chat.

We always talked about whether you should get N. body cause of your unstableness. And you proved your unstableness when you decided to "take a break" from sky. A short time later you were in another end game LS. What a joke.
 
Sirelrohir said:
Does this mean that everytime someone thinks they were slighted, they should get a gm to check the other party's logs?



Well, if you really want to know. I think your ls is shady. Your ls consists of members that use other ls to get the gear they want and then jump ship to join u guys. People that have no loyalties to others that actually got them to that point. A certain rdm that got w. legs and jumped to your ls the very same day comes to mind. But he's not the only person. It happens all the time. The ls that actually did all the work end up at square 1, while your ls gets people already geared up and ready to go, thus stifling other ls'.

Also some of your members attitudes towards other people and ls'. Im not saying you in particular, but there are other kaizen members that think they are God's gift to final fantasy. And they are vocal about it. Its the elitest attitude. Its widespread throughout your shell.

There are other reasons that have been mentioned in recent threads. Im not going to bring them up here, but if you really want to know, I'm sure you can find them.

As for AV. It doesnt matter what their lvl was. They werent helping. They were just there, hovering. Everyone else that was there from other ls' were contributing. It was refreshing to see. But members from your shell just stood there? One was even a person who has immense disdain for anteres. Why was he there? If they werent going to help, what other reason are they there for? Scouting in case of a massive wipe? Adding to the lag just because they could? Did he laugh in the ls when things didnt go anteres' way? Should a gm have banned him for that?

Edit: not tryin to derail. Zalbag asked me why i dont like kaizen much,and thats my answer.
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I can fully understand why you'd dislike a shell for doing that. But at the same time each person makes their own chioces. The problem with linkshells is many of them are selective in what they do. Many only do sky others sea. Sadly most people do end game to get better gear and if your linkshell isn't doing any of the things you'd personally like to obtain they move on when a linkshell that does comes along.

Again I can fully see why you'd frown on it but many of the times you can't blame them. I'm pretty sure kaizen isn't the only shell that recruits from other shells. It's just more rare someone leaving Kaizen for another.

Back on track. The original post was rather unclear of how events played out, and if they did play out the way you said I'm sorry you got suspended.
 
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so what? You guys got an innocent person suspended over MPK because you dont like me. Osy calls me the child? Im not GMing someone over my mistake trying to get them banned because i look like an idiot pulling 2 mobs and dying. Ill be back, and im sure Kaizen will have that personal GM of theirs ready to send me away again for something i didnt do.
 
um.. meeze we all left the shell, remember? it broke :( maybe you forgot?
 
Fubio said:
um.. meeze we all left the shell, remember? it broke :( maybe you forgot?
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That's right, the conversations about you after you left didn't happen. I guess i was wrong...
 
He might've just claimed it but had it stick on Meas, and THAT would've been mpk.
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Impossible. It won't change claims until it's ready to move toward the other player.
 
I think Zalbag basically summed it up, but it should be reitterated for clarity.

When you have a gripe with somone, and you expand your attention to include thier friends and talk ill of a person and thier friends, do not be surprized when peoele start treating you poorly.

Sire, you started off hating on Jamal cause you were caught, and made yourself look like an Idiot/Botter.

Then you rag on the people that supported Jamal because you were too stubborn to prove them wrong, or couldn't.

Then you started including Jamal's old linkshell in arguments because you knew his current one owuldn't be provocative enough for your attention needs. Now it's not only him, his friends, his former Linkshell, but the people who are friends with his former linkshell... I suspect by the end of the month you will hate the entire population of the server by assossiation.

If EVERYONE around you is wrong, either you're a fucking genious, or perhaps you are the one that's wrong. And the way i see it, you're sitting at a game of poker, broke, no clothes, STILL trying to figure out who the sucker is at the table....

Fubio, sorry bud. You burned a lot of Bridges on your struggle to the bottom... Perhaps calling us all assholes and trash wasn't such a good idea when attempting to play in a social game where your word and actions mean more than any piece of gear you have. Me thinks somone got a little tired of you being a little douchebag and called you on your shit. And now you are just dealing with the repercussions of your actions. Sure you may have a few friends cheering you on and whatnot, and a handful of people that believe you, but the fact still remains:

You are banned.

You did something that warrented a [GM] to respond with a 3 day ban. The [GM]'s saw YOU do something in the logs that matched the explaination given by the person YOU wronged.

Again, as I explained above, don't lump Kaizen into this, this was an EXP party with only 2 Kaizen members(from what I understand). You are just attention whoring at this point. Most of Kaizen Doesn't even know who you are, or care.

But what a name you are making for yourself. You freak out in shouts in Dragon's Aery because your group isn't skilled enough to kill a mob, calling us jerks and trash and assholes because YOU can't kill the mob; then you come on here and start calling entire linkshells trash because YOU MPK'd a member of said LS and they got you banned for YOUR actions. Now YOU are going to wonder why EVERYONE thinks YOU are a tool.

I think this is a good thing for you, give you a chance to clear your head a bit.
 
Phraust said:
Perhaps calling us all assholes and trash wasn't such a good idea when attempting to play in a social game where your word and actions mean more than any piece of gear you have.
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This made me laugh a little. I think you forgot where you are. I am pretty sure arrogant and demeaning attitudes on this board are completely acceptable as long as your gear is greater than the person you are demeaning. Anyways, carry on. :wink:
 
How do you know I got a 3day ban? What if i got banned longer? or shorter? I never said how long i got banned. Zal said i got banned 3 days also. How does he know? I dont get it. And i dont shout in dragons aery, i use /say. Just like your all mighty captain Kisada does. :) So if its wrong fo rme to do it, then its wrong for him to do it. You say I MPK'd , you werent there, you didnt see it, how can you say I mpkd? Meastoso was there, he knows i didnt MPK. I realize hes not going to come out and say it, but to go around GMing innocent people i dont get it. Yes i call entire ls of kaizen trash. Yes, its a garbage ls. but that doesnt mean all the people in it are garbage. I get a long with people in kaizen, just a select few i dont get along with. So yes, the ls in a whole is garbage, not all the members in it. And its not about believing me or not, Meastoso, Did I, or did i not shut the door on you? Did I, or did I not ask you if you needed help? I never had a personal problem with you before, if you needed help i was offering it. You chose to ignore me. And the GM said that i addmitted that meastoso got MPK'd. Funny though, the quote he showed me of me admitting it, says nothign about who MPK'd. I never said I mpk'd i said Meastoso pulled 2 mobs and got mpk'd czu the doors got shut in his face. Something fishy going on. To pick me out of the crowd is fucked up, considering i was literally the one farthest away from all switches.
 
oh shit son, he had to bring Kaizen into this...thats enough for a 100 page thread
 
Fubio said:
How do you know I got a 3day ban? What if i got banned longer? or shorter? I never said how long i got banned. Zal said i got banned 3 days also. How does he know? I dont get it.
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You said so in the OP.

Fubio said:
Fuck you man. I was standing right next to you. How could I have possibly MPK'd you? FUcking explain how i could have possibly MPK'd you? You are fucking Garbage , GM me for mpking, you GM'd me? Man fuck you. I didnt do anything, and you know i didnt.So Kaizen is cool with GMing innocent people when they fuck up? Go on with your garbage personality. Go fucking bitch about everyone else botting everything, while you claim half the shit your at. Your ls cheats, yoru ls is full of shitty players, and your ls has too many of the "Pauk and Meastoso" types. Get over yourselves, You pulled 2 mobs, and the door was shut. YOU GOT FUCKED , so you GM me for MPKing you when im NOWHERE NEAR THE FUCKING DOOR. Why cuz you were embarrassed that you pulled 2 mobs from our camp and got owned? Please go on being a dick and getting pissed and GMing innocent people. Fuck you, Fuck Pauk, and fuck you kaizen. I'll see you Tuesday when my suspension is over. 3 day suspension for asking you in /say if you needed any help. GM's seriously need to grow a fucking brain.
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and you saying my group isnt skilled enough to kill a mob. We have wiped to 1 Faf the entire time ive been in the shell for almost a year now. I have Adaman Hauberk, how did i get that? Did it just fall from the sky and drop into my inventory? Apparently we are skilled enough to kill it. We have 3 Hauberks 1 Mbody and 1 Nlegs in the ls. in over 8 months of camping. I dont see where we lack the skill to kill Fafnir. I agree maybe we lack the skill to kill Fafnir with 10 people (everytime flawlessy) cuz we have killed with 10 before. We also dont have the gear that your ls does. Or the people. so we claimed Nidhogg with 9 people once. asked a ls if they wanted to team up. They said sure, why wouldnt they? Free chance to lot. So what Jamal is sour because he lotted 50somethign on Mbody. He had a fair shot at it. He didnt even say thanks or anything. Instead he said that the Mbody shoudl have been his, without having to casts lots on it. What a dick. You could tell that trash came from kaizen.
 
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