Meastoso and Garbageman Pauk

[Elemmire]

Conversly, clothes do make the man, but that's an entirely different issue. <,<

I don't agree with that statement XD (I know it's off topic). I agree that a man might be reflected somewhat through their clothes (same with a woman) but I don't think clothes make the person.

 

[Sirelrohir]

That is why cheating and gil buying are so rampant in this game. No one wants to out thier friends. Well, you calling someone a cheater is just more pot calling the kettle black. Whether you cheat yourself, or hang out with cheaters, you are condoning it either way, and saying it is ok. You helping cheaters out just reaffirms to them that is the easiest way to get what they want.

If you want to be a real man, ditch the cheaters (hackers, buyers, sellers). "I'd rather die like a man than live my life as a bitch, I'd rather live in the pen, than walk the streets as a snitch" - Mac Dre.

I'd rather never see piece of gear from kings or sky than to know I had to cheat to get it. All the scumbags that cheated for their gear can't feel any real sense of accomplishment in this game. Cheaters and those that associate with cheaters are wronger than two left shoes and should take a long walk off a short pier.

What is so much more dishonorable in taking other shells geared up players than taking other shells claims by using claim bots? People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

Sorry man, im not that gung ho about it. She and I talk outside of the game. Thats more important to me. If people think its the pot calling the kettle black then so be it. Ive never seen her cheat first hand. Not once. Like i said, i cant defend her for what that website said. She did what she did, i wont apologize for her, or speak on her behalf on that issue.

But the point is, they are just as bad as anyone else when it comes to that kind of stuff. Lets not forget the uli stone thread, where they were attempting to make it ok to buy from hacking rmt. Seriously, whos the pot and who's the kettle?

 

[meeze]

Sorry man, im not that gung ho about it. She and I talk outside of the game. Thats more important to me. If people think its the pot calling the kettle black then so be it. Ive never seen her cheat first hand. Not once. Like i said, i cant defend her for what that website said. She did what she did, i wont apologize for her, or speak on her behalf on that issue.

But the point is, they are just as bad as anyone else when it comes to that kind of stuff. Lets not forget the uli stone thread, where they were attempting to make it ok to buy from hacking rmt. Seriously, whos the pot and who's the kettle?

You saying it's ok that Cyro cheats/ed means you can't bitch about anyone else doing so. The end.

 

[Firestreak]

Well who knows what he meant when he was saying it? Who knows what he's really thinking? He spent the time to clarify how he'd like us to interprete so that's the end of it, really. I don't really have a grudge against Artem so I'm not going to persue an argument that has nowhere to go.

Afterall, the question in my mind all along was how Artem defines what it means to be a "nobody." I have no idea what a nobody is, outside of Kingdom Hearts. I'd assume it's original reference in this thread by Fubio was meaning someone who didn't have anything to do with the incident. I thought Artem was trying to say a nobody was someone without good endgame gear. At this point, it appears to not have a meaning anymore. So whatever. Who really cares.

 

[Crosis]

LOL, i was wondering when you were going to come out from under your rock. Yes, I associate with cyro. Ive known her longer then anyone here. I cant defend what she did, but I wont abandon her. While you may be quick to dismiss your friends im not.

I posted in this thread way before your turned it into something emo about yourself like you always do. And yet I don't have someone showing me proof of my friends hacking though now do I? But you go ahead and continue to accuse others of hacking but hang out with those that do hypocrite.

You finally understand. I dont do end game. Im proud of you. Seriously, if anything that right there made my night. However, I have many friends that do end game. You seem to be under the impression that I only have friends in anteres. Rest assured, thats not the case. I have friends spread throughout end game. I used to be involved in end game. I've seen things, and heard things from reliable sources about your ls. Is it proof? Nope. But then again, proof only matters to you when its your buddy on the line, doesnt it.

My point, which your feeble mind can't seem to grasp, is that you not doing endgame means you don't know what the fuck you are talking about when you say people hack. False accusations are always spewing from your mouth. Your "sources" are never named are they now? Too afraid to name them? Or more likely just made the fuck up because your best friends with such cheaters and want to pretend like everyone does it to make yourself feel better.

In your last post to Phraust there were only a select few friends you gave a fuck about I thought? Now I see suddenly you have lots of friends spread throughout the game to fit this response. We already established that some of your friends do cheat and that you do indeed associate with cheaters, so your "sources" are laughable.

Now, if you had bothered reading, you would have noticed that i havent liked kaizen from before the tiamat incedent. Hell, its probably been since before you even started playing. You are the only one obsessed with tiamat. No one cares lol.

You keep telling yourself this, yet who was the one to go as far to make a flame thread when it happened though? Here let me refresh your memory of that original post you made.

I dont know how you can sleep at nite, but you guys damn well know we had tiamat beat, yet you stole him.. I know alot of you guys and i cant believe that you would pull this shit. just terrible...

First off, you had Tiamat beat eh? I mean that 100% HP on it was SO close to death. But to my point, here you say you knew alot of us huh? That doesn't sound like hate to me and I thought you hated Kaizen WAY before the Tiamat incident? Now ever since everyone in Kaizen is a bunch of hackers, cheaters and elitist scum in your eyes. Nice lies. Oo I rhymed!

The statement i made about a leader joining your shell was directed towards a particular sentance phraust said. Go back and reread. People have a right to leave indeed. The ls they are in also has a right to know in advance that they are leaving. Or perhaps you dont agree with that?

Yes and the person that you are referring did indeed give warning before leaving. But I'm sure your sources say they didn't, those phantom sources.

But the point is, they are just as bad as anyone else when it comes to that kind of stuff. Lets not forget the uli stone thread, where they were attempting to make it ok to buy from hacking rmt. Seriously, whos the pot and who's the kettle?

What? This never happened lol. We never supported nor agreed with buying Ulli stones from RMT. We bought from unknown bazaars from Batillia that we had no idea of knowing were RMT. There are many RMT you can tell, these bazaars weren't. Multiple people stated they knew someone or JPs who sold stones. Christ you just make up shit to fit your responses.

You saying it's ok that Cyro cheats/ed means you can't bitch about anyone else doing so. The end.

Thank You.

 

[Marmar]

I dont care what you idiots have to say.

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If you don't care what all us idiots have to say, then why do you bother to read and respond to what we have to say?

 

[Sirelrohir]

I posted in this thread way before your turned it into something emo about yourself like you always do. And yet I don't have someone showing me proof of my friends hacking though now do I? But you go ahead and continue to accuse others of hacking but hang out with those that do hypocrite.

Dude, you hack. You buy stones from hackers. Deal with it.

My point, which your feeble mind can't seem to grasp, is that you not doing endgame means you don't know what the fuck you are talking about when you say people hack. False accusations are always spewing from your mouth. Your "sources" are never named are they now? Too afraid to name them? Or more likely just made the fuck up because your best friends with such cheaters and want to pretend like everyone does it to make yourself feel better.

Thanks for the laugh. Seriously, I chuckled. It’s funny to me that you put more stock in one person’s unnamed sources as opposed to another’s. No matter, believe what you will. Others will believe what they want as well.

In your last post to Phraust there were only a select few friends you gave a fuck about I thought? Now I see suddenly you have lots of friends spread throughout the game to fit this response. We already established that some of your friends do cheat and that you do indeed associate with cheaters, so your "sources" are laughable.

Your right, you got me on this one. I said few instead of several. My bad. Let me put it to you this way. My friends linkshells include, but are not limited to anteres, rise, perserverance, fury, and yes, even your beloved kaizen (although I do not know how my friend in your shell will take this). One does not go 3 years playing the game without making a few, ahem, several friends along the way.

You keep telling yourself this, yet who was the one to go as far to make a flame thread when it happened though? Here let me refresh your memory of that original post you made.



First off, you had Tiamat beat eh? I mean that 100% HP on it was SO close to death. But to my point, here you say you knew alot of us huh? That doesn't sound like hate to me and I thought you hated Kaizen WAY before the Tiamat incident? Now ever since everyone in Kaizen is a bunch of hackers, cheaters and elitist scum in your eyes. Nice lies. Oo I rhymed!

Yes, I had a dislike of kaizen before the tiamat incident. And yes, I knew people in kaizen and thought that they were good people before that incident. So obviously I was disappointed in them. However, some of those people I am still on friendly terms with, some, I don’t talk to so much anymore. Lets see if you can figure out what happened; I’ll mail you a cookie if you do.

Yes and the person that you are referring did indeed give warning before leaving. But I'm sure your sources say they didn't, those phantom sources.

Not what I heard.

What? This never happened lol. We never supported nor agreed with buying Ulli stones from RMT. We bought from unknown bazaars from Batillia that we had no idea of knowing were RMT. There are many RMT you can tell, these bazaars weren't. Multiple people stated they knew someone or JPs who sold stones. Christ you just make up shit to fit your responses.

No ones buyin this. =)

Thank You.

You, my friend, are very welcome.

 

[Crosis]

Dude, you hack. You buy stones from hackers. Deal with it.

Lol still no proof just accusations from the hacker. Hypocrite needs to learn.

Thanks for the laugh. Seriously, I chuckled. It’s funny to me that you put more stock in one person’s unnamed sources as opposed to another’s. No matter, believe what you will. Others will believe what they want as well.

The stock? Was hardcore proof with your friends talking about cheating on their website you moron. Other proof? You refusing to logon. How many times have we gone over this? Still grasping at straws as always.

Your right, you got me on this one. I said few instead of several. My bad. Let me put it to you this way. My friends linkshells include, but are not limited to anteres, rise, perserverance, fury, and yes, even your beloved kaizen (although I do not know how my friend in your shell will take this). One does not go 3 years playing the game without making a few, ahem, several friends along the way.

Well, come on then, list your lovely sources that are so reliable and thus provide the facts about how we such uber haxorz. I wonder how your "friend" in Kaizen feels about all the attacks you make at us, which include him/her.

Yes, I had a dislike of kaizen before the tiamat incident. And yes, I knew people in kaizen and thought that they were good people before that incident. So obviously I was disappointed in them. However, some of those people I am still on friendly terms with, some, I don’t talk to so much anymore. Lets see if you can figure out what happened; I’ll mail you a cookie if you do.

Yet you have never given a reason as for why your dislike prior? Interesting, or just BS. So emo.

Not what I heard.

Yep those phantom sources are still afoot.

No ones buyin this. =)

Maybe you should go reread that thread, plenty of people supported us. Though your brain tends to bend the truth and only sees what it wants to see.

You, my friend, are very welcome.

Sorry if I was your friend I'd be a hacker

 

[Sirelrohir]

Lol still no proof just accusations from the hacker. Hypocrite needs to learn.



The stock? Was hardcore proof with your friends talking about cheating on their website you moron. Other proof? You refusing to logon. How many times have we gone over this? Still grasping at straws as always.



Well, come on then, list your lovely sources that are so reliable and thus provide the facts about how we such uber haxorz. I wonder how your "friend" in Kaizen feels about all the attacks you make at us, which include him/her.



Yet you have never given a reason as for why your dislike prior? Interesting, or just BS. So emo.




Yep those phantom sources are still afoot.


Maybe you should go reread that thread, plenty of people supported us. Though your brain tends to bend the truth and only sees what it wants to see.



Sorry if I was your friend I'd be a hacker

Hypocrite? Are you the pot or the kettle? lol im not even sure at this point.

If my friends want to tell you who they are, then by all means, they can. I dont want to drag them into this. (call it a copout if you would like, but while i dont mind the drama, others might, and yes, i am considerate of that).Like I said, believe what you will, others will do the same. I can just tell you what I heard, and tell you that i believe them, thats all u need to know ~.O. As for my friend in kaizen, yeah, i dont know what he thinks of this. He's actually a good guy.

lol, thanks for pointin out that im emo? I guess because you claim I am, that makes it so. Now, im going to go listen to some.. uh.. cure maybe? (someone help me out, is that emo?) and slit my wrist. Truth of the matter is, I'm probably the farthest thing from emo you'd see.

As for the last sentance.. yay, i made a new friend =D.

 

[Crosis]

Hypocrite? Are you the pot or the kettle? lol im not even sure at this point.

If my friends want to tell you who they are, then by all means, they can. I dont want to drag them into this. (call it a copout if you would like, but while i dont mind the drama, others might, and yes, i am considerate of that).Like I said, believe what you will, others will do the same. I can just tell you what I heard, and tell you that i believe them, thats all u need to know ~.O. As for my friend in kaizen, yeah, i dont know what he thinks of this. He's actually a good guy.

lol, thanks for pointin out that im emo? I guess because you claim I am, that makes it so. Now, im going to go listen to some.. uh.. cure maybe? (someone help me out, is that emo?) and slit my wrist. Truth of the matter is, I'm probably the farthest thing from emo you'd see.

As for the last sentance.. yay, i made a new friend =D.

So I can sum this up in two more sentences. You won't list your phantom sources thus proving all your accusations as hearsay. All of your friends are hackers.

 

[Sirelrohir]

So I can sum this up in two more sentences. You won't list your phantom sources thus proving all your accusations as hearsay. All of your friends are hackers.

Drives you up the wall, dont it.

Hmm.. all my friends are hackers... yet one of my friends (if indeed this didnt sour our friendship) is in kaizen...

edit: I just found out that the cure isnt emo. They are apparantly glam goth. Someone help me out, whats a example of an emo band?

 

[neophytal]

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[Artem]

1. I never said anything about gear, my exact words were stuff.
2. I never said that it makes you nobody if you don't have this stuff. I said you can't get some of this stuff if noone knows you (which is being nobody).
3. I never said that to be somebody it has to involve the game.

Read what I wrote, it's one sentence and the meaning is quite clear.

 

[Zethren]

Sorry a bit derail. But...

Knowing that Santa came down the Chimney and landed on my bear trap, and now is the time to beat the jolly fatman silly for loot.

lol thats too funny. I can imagine the Arey being a room with a big chimney and everyone just waiting for Santa to come down. Hahahaha..

I got your milk and cookies right here, pal.

 

[Crosis]

Drives you up the wall, dont it.

Hmm.. all my friends are hackers... yet one of my friends (if indeed this didnt sour our friendship) is in kaizen...

edit: I just found out that the cure isnt emo. They are apparantly glam goth. Someone help me out, whats a example of an emo band?

lol I don't think I'm the one that gets driven up the wall. But let's look at some facts. The fact that your friends hack and thats okay by you. Also, the fact that you try to act above everyone else and accuse others of cheating when you support your friends who are the real cheaters. Where do you get off acting like your better hypocrite?

You also do this without naming any sources which you have bitched and moaned for months about how thats what Kabrina did to you. Even quoting her in your signature and yet you do the same to others? Hypocrite again lolol. The hilarious part is that it turned out her sources were actually right. That is what drives you up the wall and I'm sorry the truth hurts emo guy.

 

[meastoso]

edited- my roomate hijacked my computer

 

[Xan]

pwnt by your roommate

 

[Firestreak]

I don't know what you guys think of this, but I sort of had an idea - just to throw it out there. This could...

1) Lower some tension.
2) Help out some people in shells like Kaizen and Perserverence.

Well these shells don't really do sky much - BUT want members to be equipped with sky gear. This causes people to use sky linkshells and then have to leave to join a shell that does land HNMS. Or conversely, it means that the people who don't do that may spend many many months and never get stuff like haidates.

So why not if you're not going to do sky seriously enough that your members are going to get geared in your linkshell, don't do sky at all?

Meaning, if someone wants to get sky gear somewhere else, they can join an exclusively sky linkshell and you at the same time. Then if they join you, they don't have to leave their old linkshell so they won't create bad blood and you won't have to recruit shell hoppers. Being able to get people who wouldn't leave a shell that geared them in sky items - means you'll get more loyal people that otherwise you couldn't, and you'll never have to worry about Ulli again.

Plus with your members branched out some, you'll be able to see who are good players in the sky shells if you ever have recruitment issues.

...just an idea...

 

[neophytal]

fire- to me,that typically doesnt work too well because it conflicts with a large majority of events that come up in the linkshell, especially on weekends.

 

[sirivalin]

About Linkshell hoppers, or "Stealing other shells resources"

Not to de-rail this…but seriously, I am tired of seeing these kinds of statements. MOST Linkshells that do end game, are full of shit…they recruit and recruit, set up rules for all kinds of End game things, Kings, Wyrms, Sky…but 95% of them STAY IN SKY. They use the crutch “Oh, we have to get geared up to move onto Kings and such, and people leave, so we can’t move on” and I have watched many King fights, and this statement is total bullshit. Sky gear =/= the King killer, it is skilled players. Gear does help, but with so many options out there now, AF +1, AF2, Assault Gear, sky is no longer the bottle neck everyone thinks it is…hell, it never was. So when new recruits, join these sky linkshells, that promote themselves as HNM/King/Sky ls…and spend all their time camping Uli crying and moaning about cc or rmt, or whateverwethinkisholdingusbackbutourfuckingselves, then the people who stay with them, get tired of it, tired of the drama…and move on, are called shell hoppers. I think, most Linkshells are false advertisement, spouting bullshit and promises to get people to join, knowing God damn well they are too chicken shit to at least trying and failing to bigger fights.

A sky ls is not the end all to end game, many old timers are sick of sky…and many new recruits get there and are like “wtf, this is end game???” So when larger shells, who actually do “END GAME” not pieces of it, gobble up your disillusioned members, stop crying and moaning about it…and look at your own damn shell, and figure out what it is you are or are NOT doing, that causes member loss.