Midgardsormr + Quetzalcoatl = New Quetzalcoatl!

[Miros]

Just figured I'd start this thread again. This could be a welcome addition...hopefully we'll see some mature users from Midgard come over to both the server and the site!

 

[Misi]

I know right? read mah email!

 

[onedarkflame]

Someone from my social shell was saying last night that they'd heard that folks from Midgardsormr were saying that they were going to ignore our dynamis scheduling and just steal zones. Did anyone else hear this also? It might have been in some of the posts that got lost.

 

[Miros]

Edited post. I'm hoping the people of Midgard will find it as a nice smooth transition when they come over and hope we can work together to continue the good things we have going here and on game!

 

[cesaria-midg]

OK I'll bite. I'm from Midgard and I gather we're going to be neighbours soon. Lots of us are incredibly angry about how this is being done - to be honest you're getting the easy end of it, but understand we're faced with lots of us losing our character names, every single one of our LSes being broken - and unlike a standard world transfer, this isn't being done via choice. We're being given no choice about where we go, and for all the talk of having more people to group with - I'm EU and I understand you're pretty much a desert wasteland with regards to an EU community. There's already been a couple of people giving away gear in WG and quitting over the move - and now we're being painted as four-headed heathens on here because we're from a server that doesn't schedule dynamis, and being warned before we've even moved that we're going to be publicly berrated and shamed if we "misbehave" (I've intentionally put that in quotation marks as your definition of misbehaviour is something that is perfectly standard behaviour on our server).

Now I've finally visited here, after the exhortations to do so posted on many of the forums I surf while avoiding work I should be doing, I feel even worse about the server "merge" than I did already. Yes I think it's rubbish, yes I think it's collossally mishandled by SE - but to sit and threaten us with internet vigilanteeism or making us social outcasts already, before we've even been made homeless - that's going to help the merge no end isn't it?

Midgard - the server's been on the recieving end of mass immigration itself when they let people shift for free from overpopulated servers. It's the server that in the past has been home to some of the more notorious incidents in history - although the shells involved in that have since gone by the by as people left the game or whatever. It's not a server with a history of scheduling dynamis - that's something that has never ever taken off on Midgard for whatever reason, and there has been people running up and trading glasses in the past - it died down with server populations falling, but no doubt it's going to be an issue - we've always just operated with first LS there goes, or randoming for a zone. That doesn't make us inferior people - it's just the way our server's operated - and it definitely doesn't make us worthy of some form of public humiliation and demonizing... how about meeting people halfway here? The word used by SE was a "merge"... and I really resent the thinly veiled threats that we do it your way or will be ripped apart in some form or other.

To be honest - after reading all this - I'm swaying more and more toward deactivating my account completely so if you do see me on the server it's liable to only be a brief stay. I'm not going to sit and give you some master list of people to avoid - you'll figure that out all on your own very rapidly, and these days, since world transfers - you never know half of the people on a server from one day to the next. But yep, thanks for the "welcome" and threats... always nice to start off on a positive footing.

 

[Miros]

OK I'll bite. I'm from Midgard and I gather we're going to be neighbours soon. Lots of us are incredibly angry about how this is being done - to be honest you're getting the easy end of it, but understand we're faced with lots of us losing our character names, every single one of our LSes being broken - and unlike a standard world transfer, this isn't being done via choice. We're being given no choice about where we go, and for all the talk of having more people to group with - I'm EU and I understand you're pretty much a desert wasteland with regards to an EU community. There's already been a couple of people giving away gear in WG and quitting over the move - and now we're being painted as four-headed heathens on here because we're from a server that doesn't schedule dynamis, and being warned before we've even moved that we're going to be publicly berrated and shamed if we "misbehave" (I've intentionally put that in quotation marks as your definition of misbehaviour is something that is perfectly standard behaviour on our server).

Now I've finally visited here, after the exhortations to do so posted on many of the forums I surf while avoiding work I should be doing, I feel even worse about the server "merge" than I did already. Yes I think it's rubbish, yes I think it's collossally mishandled by SE - but to sit and threaten us with internet vigilanteeism or making us social outcasts already, before we've even been made homeless - that's going to help the merge no end isn't it?

Midgard - the server's been on the recieving end of mass immigration itself when they let people shift for free from overpopulated servers. It's the server that in the past has been home to some of the more notorious incidents in history - although the shells involved in that have since gone by the by as people left the game or whatever. It's not a server with a history of scheduling dynamis - that's something that has never ever taken off on Midgard for whatever reason, and there has been people running up and trading glasses in the past - it died down with server populations falling, but no doubt it's going to be an issue - we've always just operated with first LS there goes, or randoming for a zone. That doesn't make us inferior people - it's just the way our server's operated - and it definitely doesn't make us worthy of some form of public humiliation and demonizing... how about meeting people halfway here? The word used by SE was a "merge"... and I really resent the thinly veiled threats that we do it your way or will be ripped apart in some form or other.

To be honest - after reading all this - I'm swaying more and more toward deactivating my account completely so if you do see me on the server it's liable to only be a brief stay. I'm not going to sit and give you some master list of people to avoid - you'll figure that out all on your own very rapidly, and these days, since world transfers - you never know half of the people on a server from one day to the next. But yep, thanks for the "welcome" and threats... always nice to start off on a positive footing.

This move is going to be a difficult one for the Midgard people and I'm sorry that everyone there has to go through the crap they are. It really should have been done a lot better on SE's end. I don't want you to think that we're threatening though, and I can see how that would come across. We've had very bad luck with some people when it comes to dynamis and honestly I think most of us are hoping that the dynamis scheduling area will be respected.

I am truly hoping the change will be an easy one and that everyone on Midgard will find a new and happy home on Quetz. I'm hoping those who visit QCDN and still play on the Quetz server will lend a helping hand and inform the transfers about QCDN and the dynamis scheduling and hope that it'll be respected.

 

[Miruyasha]

Awww I meant it in jest

I kinda feel like this is when I went from middle to high school, cuz around here our high school is made up of students from 2 middle schools. Get to meet new people even though they've been through the same stuff. I'd like to think each server is unique just because of the people it's made up of.

 

[LadyKiKi]

Ah don't worry about them (Quetz people). Do what you want and then it'll all work out eventually.

 

[Illyria]

Speaking from the point of view of the person for my Dynamis shell is responsible for scheduling.

We have over the past few months had issues with "shell transfers" to Quetz and we have also had issues in the past with JP shells who run without consulting QCDN as well so we have what I will call a sour taste in our mouth when it comes to Dyanmis "zone jacking". I believe you all probably have a very civilized way of handling this on your server and we have ours. Our choice has been to set a schedule by shell basis at the beginning of each month and with the exception of the above mentioned issues it has worked very well for us. None of us can force anyone or any shell from Midgard to join in our system and if they choose not to do so the mass of Quetz will say alot of bad things for some reason that is just how some of our people choose to handle situations. Personally I find that scheduling saves a lot of issues and to be honest your probably not gonna get shells on our server to /random for a zone they "booked' ahead of time using a system we have had in place for however long. I cannot even honestly tell you how our leadership would handle such a situation because I am just the girl who doesn't mind making the schedule.

What I would like to say is this.
To any Dynamis leader who will be reforming their shell on our server. Please considering looking at our scheduling forum and see how it works. It is not a perfect system and sometime leaders have to work together to move zones to fit everything and everyone in. As you will see some nights have few shells while others are packed and I would never expect you to move days because of SE's forced move but obviously neither should we. I find that our system works just fine because it is what we are used to. I welcome you to join in and make Quetz an even better server but WE ALL HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER to make the best of what SE has given us.

As far as SE is concerned... they really messed this up with the Linkshells big time... really big time.

And to my one friend on Midgard... We are glad to have you back hun. Let the memories flow.

 

[Nicholette]

I think you will find yourselves very welcomed Midgard people. The only issues that will arise will be centered around dynamis and I'm sure people can meet in the middle on alot of that stuff it will just take some time to adjust. Endgame wise a friend mentioned you all have roughly 7 active HNM shells and our server really has only 2 with a few of the old school shells joining rarely for an NM so I don't think you'll find it that much more crowded. Some people seem angry about the move but i can't tell you how happy I'll be to have beastmen strongholds won again, not lose the Astral Candy here and there, find people for a party, and to get a teleport when I do an effing shout. Even though it retains the name Quetz it honestly wont be anymore it'll be both, welcome to Quetzgard.

 

[Tristam Green]

Someone from my social shell was saying last night that they'd heard that folks from Midgardsormr were saying that they were going to ignore our dynamis scheduling and just steal zones. Did anyone else hear this also? It might have been in some of the posts that got lost.

Don't ever assume hearsay.

OK I'll bite...(lots and lots of hate)

Calm down. I understand your server is going to have a seriously rough transitional period when it gets moved over to QC. First off, welcome. I may not play anymore, but I still consider the server and this site home, so I'm glad to see new blood enter the fray.

Second, it's always been a key tenet of mine not to trust the word of someone whose user title is "MPK King". It lends itself to unsavory connections.

 

[Shirai]

I'd like to respond on the Dynamis worry as it seems to be the biggest.

I have been talking to my LS a lot about it since the merger had been announced.
I am not sure how other linkshells here on Midgar have been arranging it, I have honestly not had any interest to inquire.
The shell I am in however is one that chooses a Dynamis zone on the day, most of the time even an hour before we go in.
They have however shown a little interest to maybe start scheduling it, if not at least use the schedule to choose a zone which is not taken at that moment.

 

[Dowzer]

They have however shown a little interest to maybe start scheduling it, if not at least use the schedule to choose a zone which is not taken at that moment.

A few shells on Quetz already do this. They don't post a schedule but they do respect others and make sure the zone is open.

 

[ShomeGhuye]

You know, perhaps the question to be asked is not whether or not the midgar people will use scheduling, but rather whether or not scheduling will be at all possible with so many new people. I just took a glance at a few of the "days" in the dynamis scheduling forum and presently with the people we already have they appear pretty full. If our population doubles (roughly) then I can see this being problematic for scheduling, even if everybody agrees to it.

To cesaria-midg: Calling the server a desert wasteland with respect to EU players seems a little extreme. I've met qute a few during the time that I've played and I know most of them still play. Sorry your transition process is so damaging, SE seems to be an expert at doing things half-assed or in an annoying fashion. Give us a shot before quitting. Sure there's some total douches on the server, but there's also some extremely kind and generous people here too.

Anyway, I look forward to having a lot of new faces around. Maybe that will be what it takes to get me playing again. I'm a little worried about having to level up to level 99 though. I have far less free time now and it may be damaging to get sucked back into all this. Guess we'll see.

 

[Xalioniaf]

We have already begun installing separate water fountains and restrooms here on Asura for the incoming Pandemonium immigrants, and I can only assume that Quetzalcoatl is doing the same thing for Midgardsomr.





I kid. I'd be there to welcome everyone from Midgard myself (I'm organizing a welcoming party in Batallia for Pandy peeps!), but I do hope the wrinkles smooth out sooner rather than later.

 

[Tristam Green]

You know, perhaps the question to be asked is not whether or not the midgar people will use scheduling, but rather whether or not scheduling will be at all possible with so many new people. I just took a glance at a few of the "days" in the dynamis scheduling forum and presently with the people we already have they appear pretty full. If our population doubles (roughly) then I can see this being problematic for scheduling, even if everybody agrees to it.

this is true. what with most zones being low-manned and all, a larger populace could well damage any kind of scheduling out there.

Hey SE, while you're breaking six years of established gameplay and clearing up some server space, how about finally making Dynamis instanced like everyone wants?

 

[Carste]

this is true. what with most zones being low-manned and all, a larger populace could well damage any kind of scheduling out there.

Don't forget how much easier it's going to be to low-man/solo zones when the 99 cap is introduced.

 

[Begen]

I was thinking of coming back to the game with the new features from Vanafest 2010, but then I saw the new level cap is 99 which turned me right off. The game is balanced as it is, and SE will just create huge amounts of work to balance the new level cap. Are you ready for tons of updates? D:

 

[Ghost]

Well, I'm going to be joining you guys on QC, fun stuff, it will be nice to finally have more than 40 people "/sea all inv" during peak times. Its just a downer as to how SE handled it all. "Merging" when it really is just a mass transfer from Mid to QC. And then those of us that are going to be forced into name changes, and reforming our social/endgame shells. None-the-less. {/wave} and See you guys around after the merge. Be warned though ~1/2 of Midgard are drama magnets, and at least 1/2 are in the "mine mine mine" attitude. Hope you guys can handle that =3

 

[Xalioniaf]

Don't forget how much easier it's going to be to low-man/solo zones when the 99 cap is introduced.

If people will even want to do those zones once the cap hits 99.