Misc Rant

[Thnikkaman]

Okay, time for Thnikk's rant tri-nombre!
First of all, I just gotta point out the number of people with underleveled subjobs lately. In my opinion, is just lazy. Or this one person I know has absolutely no subjob whatsoever, and thinks (s)he can get parties with it. LvX RNG. Surprisingly got to Lv30 without a sub. I guess it doesn't dis-benefit you a lot, but if you think about it, all the stuff you're missing from sub THF, sub WAR, or sub NIN... extra damage and accuracy, job abilities, job traits, etc.

Mages neglecting spells... I read a flame about something, and within the flame, some guy said that in his party, his WHM didn't have Raise II, and he was high level enough, but he didn't have the money. Once again, lazy. Like, I can see a WHM wanting to level to Lv36 or something fast for teleports or something, yeah. But get your spells in order... as soon as you can get money, get it. Don't be a cheap noob.

The Vermillion Cloak... eight million gil (ish)... Like wow. I can see people wanting to wear it. It's not a bad item. However, compared to almost anything else in the game, I wouldn't pay more than like one thousand gil for it. Why? It disbenefits you in so many ways. Sure it gives you like 10 MP and refresh, but it kills Evasion, gives sh*tty DEF, and takes away any head and body wear you could wear. I can see SMN wanting to wear it, but every time I see a Bard, Red Mage, White Mage, Black Mage wearing it... I'm sorry but that's just sick. It's like that WHM I passed the other day wearing a Physical Earring (at Lv10).

On a final note (for now) I just wanna comment about selling and buying characters. Yeah, I can see people wanting to make some money off of their character to get some of their spent money back, but don't sell your character. Like... It's one thing to sell the gil and equipment off of him or her, but selling him or her to some complete newcomer will just be shits. All it does is makes more people want to quit because they don't even know how to play yet. I've honestly been in parties in Gustav and stuff where a Samurai has asked what a weapon skill is.

Alright. Now it's time for people to disagree with me and flame my ass off. Ohh- can't wait to hear about the Vermillion Cloak. I can guarantee LOTS of hate about that.

 

[Svina]

Rerun.....

 

[Thnikkaman]

One last thing to add... What's up with BoL? I'm starting to get the idea it's a linkshell obviously, but I've never seen it. Everyone I PM or ask never replies. What is it and why do so many people hate it??

 

[Kat]

One last thing to add... What's up with BoL? I'm starting to get the idea it's a linkshell obviously, but I've never seen it. Everyone I PM or ask never replies. What is it and why do so many people hate it??

I wasn't gonna, but I just cannot help myself. Baddddd Kat.

Anywayyy here is the perfect example:

The old BoL would accept someone like you no questions asked. The new and improved BoL would turn you down.

Kay, I'm now down with your silly thread.

PS. The above statement will probably go right over your head, but I'm sure the people who matter will get it^^.

 

[Kat]

I'm done* with ...

 

[Passions]

75PL

you bitching about people buying and selling characters, when you pl people and make them shitty

you seriously like to talk out of your ass dont you? vermillion cloak adds refresh, a "smart" player will have macro's the swap the gear for what they need at the time. if your a whm you go the cure you swap for mind, but unless your needing to spam cure after cure after cure you should have time to put that cloak back on and get an extra tic of refresh. when your resting, what do you equip the get mp back faster? a dark staff, thats it OMG now who's the nOOb. the only thing that you can equip before 72 is seer's tunic for +1mp per tic while resting, the cloak gives you 3 in that time. you come to the forums talking all this shit yet you neglect the think though your thoughts. in my opinion your LAZY and a nOOb cause you got powerleveled or bought your 61 whm cause you know so little about the aspects of this game.

P.S. i wore V CLOAK as blm from 59-68 when ever i wasn't casting cause i have a thing called "Equipment Macro's" i'd hope you'd know what those are by now

 

[Thnikkaman]

The old BoL would accept someone like you no questions asked. The new and improved BoL would turn you down.

Ooh. Is teh burn!! But wouldn't that mean it's going downhill rather than what everyone's saying it's going uphill? So what they only invite noobs now? I's get it.

 

[Passions]

*edit* besides Dark Staff for +10mp, and i'm not mensioning latent effects

 

[Thnikkaman]

P.S. i wore V CLOAK as blm from 59-68 when ever i wasn't casting cause i have a thing called "Equipment Macro's" i'd hope you'd know what those are by now

Yeah, I have my equipment on macro. Either way, the stuff it gives isn't worth 8mil. 1mp/tick is balls. You're looking at a nice total of 20 MP per minute. Whoopty shit. lmao

Yeah. I'm a noob for not spending money on 20 MP per minute, with the detrimental of any and all other beneficial equipment for head and for body.

 

[Thnikkaman]

(Edit) ...for not spending eight million gil on 20 MP...

 

[Thnikkaman]

Defense: 46
Cannot Equip Headgear
MP +10
MP +1%
Evasion -10
Adds 'Refresh' Effect

Yeah... I'd rather have AF body and head any day. Especially post Lv68 (which I expect is when you got Black Cloak) when you can get Black Cloak and Noble's Tunic (worth the 9 mil).

 

[Passions]

Yeah, I have my equipment on macro. Either way, the stuff it gives isn't worth 8mil. 1mp/tick is balls. You're looking at a nice total of 20 MP per minute. Whoopty shit. lmao

Yeah. I'm a noob for not spending money on 20 MP per minute, with the detrimental of any and all other beneficial equipment for head and for body.

you dont need noble's tunic or black cloak either then hugh? i mean 10% cure potency isn't that much i mean you already get that from light staff. and those both offer the same 20mp per min refresh rate. so where's your logic?

btw refresh is only 60mp/min also guess you dont need that then either cause its just worless, not worth a party spot get a DD make it go faster. 100% correct, you dont NEED refresh in a normal xp session. Refresh and VCloak make you able to last longer and keep the down time to a minimum. maybe its not worth 10mil to you, but bashing on those that DO have one saying they are stupid, you sir are pathetic. If they are swaping gear properly, then the DO have better gear then you and ARE playing better then you if both of you were playing at full potential.

VCloak makes your gear better whether you wana pay the 10mil for it or not is your choice but it is a extreamly nice piece to have.

 

[Ajs]

Ooh. Is teh burn!! But wouldn't that mean it's going downhill rather than what everyone's saying it's going uphill? So what they only invite noobs now? I's get it.

Actually, (according to your sig) you're only 61. BoL probably wont' take anyone under 70, and they probably won't take anyone without sky access either. It's not that they're going downhill, but at 61 you wouldn't help in sky much.



About Vermy Cloak on BLMs, any BLM that uses it as their main body armor is a n00b. AF Head + Body is so much better. Macroing it in for healing or just standing around is okay, but for nuking, AF Head + Body (or Shaman's Cloak) is a lot better.

 

[Odon]

Actually AF head and Black or flora cote is the best.. aj.

 

[Passions]

Yeah... I'd rather have AF body and head any day.

you take your af, and i'll take my vcloak and my af and lets see who play's better at the end of the party eh? i bet you anything i can conserve more mp then you and still put that 20mp/min to my advantage. why? cause i i've got everything you have and more. why you need def? or evasion? are you getting hit? cause damn that's sad, i might get hit once or twice in 4hrs of xping as whm. you need the check your regen and cure spells your using cause your doing something wrong. if your pld blows ass then you might have to "Adjust" your curing style. a whm with a ninja is a waisted xp space, to boring for whm tellem to get a blm and own instead of sitting in there board off your ass.

point is, you dont know as much about these things because you havn't tried them. you look at stats and make judgements off of them, never use them in your own experience. so stop making theries and start making facts maybe we'll be more up for listening to you then, if you had some evidence to back up your theries

 

[Passions]

Actually AF head and Black or flora cote is the best.. aj.

i used that for magic bursting and the shaman's cloak for normal nuking and the vcloak for standing around waiting on hate or resting.

8 equipment macros for blm

blm af body is worthless but very nice for enfebbeling magic, which is nice for sleeping and i play enfebbeler when there's no rdm in the party, cause i like the sub /rdm.

 

[Thnikkaman]

Hell, your equipment probably 10x as good as mine, Passions. Why? I spend my whole in game time helping people. Whether it be power leveling, teleporting, giving advice, doing quests, escorting... I never do things to benefit myself. I got one level in the time it took a friend of mine to get fifty nine levels. What does that tell you?

20 MP per minute isn't a bad thing. Hell no. I'd just rather not spend money on it. Eight million gil for 20 MP but detrimenting everything else sucks. It's only good for resting, right? Then it's obviously not going to help you much when it comes to fighting. Hell, it takes me a minute to rest my whole 800 MP pool. 20 MP is nothing.

 

[Passions]

Hell, your equipment probably 10x as good as mine, Passions. Why? I spend my whole in game time helping people. Whether it be power leveling, teleporting, giving advice, doing quests, escorting... I never do things to benefit myself. I got one level in the time it took a friend of mine to get fifty nine levels. What does that tell you?

that your a slow lvler? i help people with things, af keys & coffers, quest, NM fights and camping i do my share of helping others. i dont powerlevel though, that is the biggest waist of your time and imo is makes them worse at there job, cause they are being babied. i lvld blm from 17-31 in 24hrs w/out a pl. NO i didn't get invites out the ass, i was the leader of the party the whole time, i just kept getting replacements and moving the party where we needed the be.

Hell, it takes me a minute to rest my whole 800 MP pool. 20 MP is nothing.

HOLY SHIT i can't even do that as a 72 blm >.< damn you dont need refresh or a vcloak with a mp rest like that. you can just sit down inbetween pulls and be full mana by the time the puller gets back

MERF the average mage takes ~3-5 min the fully rest a 0mp-full

you basicaly just said you get 13.3mp/second back while resting :grin:

 

[Thnikkaman]

Dark Staff, Cookies, Clear Mind... Maybe at the most of like 2 minutes. Really. I get lots of MP per rest tick. Plus, factoring in the accumulation of MP per rest tick every time. Yeah, it only makes sense. That's why I don't eat any pies and stuff, so I can eat cookies and give me like +10 more HMP.

I don't spend ALL my time helping. Actually lately I've spent a good most of my time in my Mog House just chatting to people. But every time I step outside of it it's noobs noobs noobs. Noobs are the reasons I don't level anymore.

 

[Bigboy]

Vermillion cloak is the first piece of gear you can get ahold of with autorefresh on it, and it is usable for more than 1 job, unlike demon's cloak and noble's tunic.

Once you take that into account, it isn't hard to see why it costs as much. Maybe if PLDs didn't buy them for the standing refresh, and other jobs use it for the ~11 levels they have it available before their job specific auto-refresh item. I am trying to think if there is one for SMN, but my mind draws a blank.

Anyways with so much competition for a very versitile item, (at least in terms of the jobs that can use it) and the earliest obtainable one of its kind, people will pay good money. I used to have a royal cloak, but my macro pallet was kinda full to begin with and adding it in showed very little benefit for me, but I am a RDM, so it clashed with the rest of my gear anyways.