My complaint on Ayrie

[Rones]

Wow, you keep spewing it. Good god, enfeebling now too? You know a whm has about a snowballs chance in hell of landing any enfeeble. ESPECIALLY with a rdm hanging out. We're like a fat C+ at best with enfeebling. The only debuff a whm can land with regularity is Dia, lol.

If you are a good whm you certainly can. I was sole enfeebler in my static from 50-65 (had brd, blm, whm backline). Stack on +mnd and appropriate elemental staff and you shouldn't have much trouble unless it is IT++. Its not that whms can't enfeeble, its that you didn't try hard enough and are lazy about it. After you get errant gear at 72 with all its +mnd, your job becomes very easy.

 

[Panda]

XP is XP.

Oh, and on that note, I might get a little hate from this, but for a WHM xp is NOT xp.

WHMs can get parties pretty much any time they sign on. Why should we waste our time in your shitty party when you won't even listen to us when our issues go ignored? When your paladins can't cure themselves?

I know, I know, I sound like an asshole. I'm not saying that WHMs should be entitled to leave a party just because they think its bad - some parties get off to rough starts and take a few fights to get used to each other, and some people need to learn, but when any member sees issues with a party and the party ignores them rather than addresses the issues thats just bullshit.

Not to mention how many times has a party gone to shit and the first person they point their finger at is the WHM for not throwing out enough cures with a PLD who isnt curing, or not throwing out the exact spell that the melee thought should be thrown out at the exact time because we were too busy casting haste on your ass?

Its sooo easy to toss the blame at the WHM. Don't believe the hype. It seems as if the original poster is just pissed for the WHM for warping out of the party instead of the paladin for obviously being shitty at their job.

 

[Ayrie]

Errant?

I fail to see how Errant helps me at 62... no amount of MND+ will really help me, I wear Healer's Briault for 10 skill. And having to cast paralyze 4 times to stick it, maybe... you've practically went half the fight trying to land it, lol. I'm not gonna argue that it can't be done, I've landed a fair share of debuffs in my time, its just that on the mobs a typical 60-70 pt try to fight mandate that a whm will have a HARD time doing it. You'd almost be better off to ask a blm, I believe they are a whole letter grade higher when it comes to that, and they can get a fair bit of mind to support it. I guess its 6 in one, half dozen in the other. They're both going to pale to a rdm, and there is no reason a whm should be called upon to debuff anything other than Dia with a rdm around. ^^

 

[Akisu]

Wow, you keep spewing it. Good god, enfeebling now too? You know a whm has about a snowballs chance in hell of landing any enfeeble. ESPECIALLY with a rdm hanging out. We're like a fat C+ at best with enfeebling. The only debuff a whm can land with regularity is Dia, lol. And I realize I am keeping the paladin alive, its my whole bitch here... and you want haste, and barspells, and debuffs, and enhances. Look, I dunno what hole you crawled out of, but you need to go crawl back in it.

Look me up when YOU learn the rules.

lol... You know what... I land my debuffs just fine, and it wasn't refering to that party, it was in general. Sometimes whm need to debuff if theres no rdm present, sure Id rather let a rdm debuff but I can debuff just fine if needed, you should be able to do that as well if your needed to... quit taking things out of context. My exact quote:

Its also your job to haste and buff party, as well as debuff mobs.

And last time I checked, DiaII is a great debuff. I never said anywhere your job in that party this thread started over was to debuff. Im talking about handling your MP in general.

I dont know what rules you play by, but I dont really care if you go find a party you get 60k xp in. You affected *my* party I was in, I don't give a crap about anything else when it comes to this topic. You want to debate how to play a whm, sure I'll debate. You want to debate party ethics? Ill debate that too. And, Im telling you as whm to whm, you shouldnt have a problem, especialy with all your +mp gear, keeping enough mp while hasting, buffing, and curing, pld or nin.

Without refresh you might run dry, but that wasn't the issue in our party. So, I'm not sure what your even complaining about it "draining a whm" fast.

And yes, Panda. I know. My main is whm, if you couldn't tell by now. As I said before, if you want to leave, leave. Dont drag on in the party for hour+ complaining and whining creating drama and pissing everyone else off, just to warp and leave everyone in a bad situation.

 

[Ayrie]

Akisu, hehe

Okay, your quote just detailed EXACTLY a rdm's job, not a whm's job. Woowoo, point for me. Enfeeble and enhance, not a whms main priority, keeping idiot plds who cannot keep hate (as well as the melee around him) alive is. Sorry if I cannot prioritize to your liking.

As for inhibiting your party... scrutinize Elleshar... and then scrutinize yourself. YOUR party sucked because the TANK could not hold hate, causing a breakdown ALL around him. And if you wanna bitch about someone not holding their weight in YOUR party, look at yourself. I do believe Meeze summed it up best when he said he thought you were a thief.

*claps hands* You have to be the dumbest white mage I know.

 

[Akisu]

Okay, your quote just detailed EXACTLY a rdm's job, not a whm's job. Woowoo, point for me. Enfeeble and enhance, not a whms main priority, keeping idiot plds who cannot keep hate (as well as the melee around him) alive is. Sorry if I cannot prioritize to your liking.

As for inhibiting your party... scrutinize Elleshar... and then scrutinize yourself. YOUR party sucked because the TANK could not hold hate, causing a breakdown ALL around him. And if you wanna bitch about someone not holding their weight in YOUR party, look at yourself. I do believe Meeze summed it up best when he said he thought you were a thief.

*claps hands* You have to be the dumbest white mage I know.

lol... How did I describe a rdm's job?... Curing your pt, hasting melee and buffing your pt with ocasional debuff if needed is rdm job?

And as far as being a "dumb" whm, I never said I was the best, I know I personaly could be a little faster on my reaction time for a status cure on the tank sometimes. Something to improve, there always is, but cause for calling me dumb?

No. Dumb is exploding on a party for asking for barfira, or on a pld for not being the best, if anything, offer positive critisism to him, not insults. That's dumb. And, I've been over my DoT already... maybe you should try reading so I can quit repeating myself over and over for you.

My DoT was low because I was wearing ACC gear. My main concern in that party was keeping up in TP with the monk, for the SC. Without that SC, we wouldn't have been making 500xp an hour. Our party was SC dependant. Still, that can be placed on your lack of hasting members, haste the pld... faster voke/flash recast. Haste me, faster tp gain, maybe if it ballanced out, I could have put my normal gear on instead of acc... haste the mnk >.> you would have had to cast raise a few more times... that mnk was highest member in party, of course hes going to hit more accuratly and for more damage overall then me, being I was the lowest member. Hit like a thf? I don't care, we were getting chain 5's for great xp until you decided to go off on your little tantrum.

But calling me a dumb whm? Name calling? What are you, 10? lol. Seriously, all your argument has been for the most part has been missquoting me, arguing against things Ive already explained and re-explained, and name calling. I doubt you've ever even seen me play whm, so the statement calling me a "dumb whm" in itself is based on nothing.

And, you still haven't defended yourself when I called you a hypocrit, does that mean it's true? You complain about people telling you how to play, then spend an hour insulting others about how they play, and expect them to stomach it, back down and tell you "You know! You're so right! I do suck! I'm the worst <job> ever!" Come'on, really... if that's what you expect... lol... *shakes head*

Can you honestly deny that you wasted everyones time there whining? I have every right to complain about you and your hypocricy, let alone your rude comments and generaly dragging the party down by even not giving the pld stona when he needed it, then complain he can't do his job well...and you seriously think you have any right to call me "dumb"? "Barfira me!" "Dont tell me how to play my job! I have better things to do with my time then get lectured! /Tantrum" then 5 minutes later... "Voke better! You stupid paladin!"

 

[Ayrie]

Standards

I've told you this at least once already.

I apply the same standards to myself that I apply to everyone else. And I apply high standards to everyone. Every member and every party WANTS to be successful, and morale drags when quite the reverse happens.

Take a few psychology or leadership classes and you will understand. Apparently you think that everyone should act like little automated droids doing this or doing that as if pushing a button to turn them on. A whm's top priority is and always will be to keep a good reading on the HP (A+) status of a party. Everything else is second to that.

A rdm's top priority is to see to it that the party receives ample advantage over XXX enemy... in the form of debuffs (A+) and enhances (A).

There is a reason jobs are rated with skill... its to show you where they are strong and weak... do we make a warrior use Sidewinder because he can, and he's a C archery? Hell no... we make him stick to those trusty Axe or Great Axe.

So the same should hold true to magic skills. Do we make the rdm (C) do the healing for the party while the whm (C+/B) handle all the Enfeebles and Enhances?

The only enhancement a whm is solely responsible for is PROTECTRA/SHELLRA status. Because casting Protect and Shell 6 times is a serious waste of mp. If the rdm decided to sub blm (which really I don't prefer) then yes, the whm becomes in charge of Barfira and the like. Once again, solely because it is the most efficient way to hand out the buff.

This was not the case however, as the rdm was subbed whm, and your logic fails to prove itself.

And yes, a player is entitled to say/fuss/whine/whatever they want when someone is creating a huge problem (for example a tank not tanking). Otherwise these people with these faults go through the game thinking they are excellent... and they end up at 62 (or higher) as complete and incompetant idiots.

Do you want to promote a paladin who cannot cast a healing spell on himself and let him think "Hey, its okay!" I'll be damned before I let that happen. And in your case... would I want to see a warrior who cannot pop 50 damage with a swing hit 75? Chances are no again... you'll never be to the standard of competance or quality that is demanded to attain that level.

You go ahead and trudge on with your inferior parties... promote the incompetance that let these morons get this high, you can deal with them... they're in your bed, not mine... sleep with them.

I will continue to hold my standards high, and I will continue to expect high standards out of the people around me. Play time ended at 50, I don't have to deal with it. And as I proved, I do not have to deal with it.

Enjoy your noobfests, I'm going on 65 now, and you're likely still stuck at 61 or whatever you were at when I left you in that forsaken party. I will let my results speak for themselves in this instance. Flame me all you want, but at the end of the day I know that my results speak louder and clearer than any gibberish you can throw up here.

Good bye.

 

[Jimm]

The only enhancement a whm is solely responsible for is PROTECTRA/SHELLRA status. Because casting Protect and Shell 6 times is a serious waste of mp. If the rdm decided to sub blm (which really I don't prefer) then yes, the whm becomes in charge of Barfira and the like. Once again, solely because it is the most efficient way to hand out the buff.

This was not the case however, as the rdm was subbed whm, and your logic fails to prove itself.

I think thats alittle besides the point. I don't assume my RDM is subbing WHM as most of them prefer BLM, especially if there is a WHM in pt. Asking for a barfira from the WHM and being bitched at for telling them how to do their job is alittle overboard. Obviously if the party was fighting Gobs and no barfira was cast, a good WHM (I'm assuming you are one?) would make sure it was up either by casting it themself or asking the RDM to do it. As HP is your #1 concern, I would assume taking less damage with something you can cast or ask someone else to cast would be as well, as opposed to yelling at the person asking for it...but maybe that is just me.

And yes, a player is entitled to say/fuss/whine/whatever they want when someone is creating a huge problem (for example a tank not tanking). Otherwise these people with these faults go through the game thinking they are excellent... and they end up at 62 (or higher) as complete and incompetant idiots.

I can agree that players are entitled to their opinion. Bitching and throwing tantrums? Thats not so much of an opinion as it is somebody with their panties in a bunch. Usually the professional way to deal with somebody not doing something they are supposed to (going back to those leadership classes?) is to go about it in a decent manner. People are more likely to listen to someone who shows class than somone acting like they just got out of Valkurm and still has sand in their ass.

Do you want to promote a paladin who cannot cast a healing spell on himself and let him think "Hey, its okay!" I'll be damned before I let that happen. And in your case... would I want to see a warrior who cannot pop 50 damage with a swing hit 75? Chances are no again... you'll never be to the standard of competance or quality that is demanded to attain that level.

Granted, I wouldn't like a PLD who doesn't know how to play. However, I wouldn't want a player that throws a tantrum over some disagreements and then decides not to cure status effects and warps on my party. Alittle decency goes a long way. I would rather have a PLD I could talk decently to and try to let him know his errors than a WHM who is gonna freak out over something as small as asking for a barfira.

You go ahead and trudge on with your inferior parties... promote the incompetance that let these morons get this high, you can deal with them... they're in your bed, not mine... sleep with them.

I will continue to hold my standards high, and I will continue to expect high standards out of the people around me. Play time ended at 50, I don't have to deal with it. And as I proved, I do not have to deal with it.

Enjoy your noobfests, I'm going on 65 now, and you're likely still stuck at 61 or whatever you were at when I left you in that forsaken party. I will let my results speak for themselves in this instance. Flame me all you want, but at the end of the day I know that my results speak louder and clearer than any gibberish you can throw up here.

I duno where you get off shes going along with inferior parties or shes an inferior WAR. I have been staticing with Akisu for a long time with my MNK and her damage is on par and our parties are almost always 5k+/hour parties which is good in my book. Only reason she was xping with you guys was because I got alittle too far ahead with some pickup parties with friends. I'm glad you hit 65, great. Aki and I can go hit 70+ over December and I'll be sure to avoid WHMs with attitude problems such as yourself.

 

[Akisu]

Again... for the 3rd time... I fail to see where your getting this whole me telling you that you should have used enfeebs in that party... if there is NO rdm, then it falls to the whm.

Also, so what if the pld wasn't holding the best hate in the world, he as doing a decent job. Maybe he was having an off day, or maybe he was having connection problems. When my connection flakes out it's really hard to time a cast between hits, let alone against a fast attacking mob like a raptor. Who cares, the whole point is you made an issue out of nothing if we were getting decently good xp. Actually, we got about 6k an hour before you left... and that was with the arguing, and thats average compaired to the normal 5k and hour I seem to get. I didn't see anyone else complain about xp either.

Noob party? lol... that party you ditched was getting decent chain 5's on IT mobs before you started mouthing off and refusing to do your job. I didnt see anyone else complaining but you. Infact, you came into that party complaining, why? Because I asked for barfira after a gob almost killed us with a bomb.

Did I ask you specificly? No.
Did I ask the rdm specificly? No.
Do I give a crap who has the best formula and cap for the best possible barfira? No.

Anything is better then none, and I'd rather have atleast a tiny bit of reistance to a bomb toss then none at all.

And then you continue to complain about my damage... are just ignoring my posts or what... I had ACC gear on to keep up in TP w/ the mnk. Without our SC we couldn't have got past chain 2. With it, we get chain 5... are you seeing a connection here? ACC gear = faster tp build build... Damage gear = more DoT, but more misses therefore slower TP gain. Get it?

 

[Ayrie]

Applause

I do commend you for sticking up for your friend. And I would expect you to.

But... there is little defense for a gob who waltzes into your party and drops a bomb, people die, its gonna happen. 95% of the time when the mob hits camp the whm is resting mp from the last fight. 95% of the time, the whm tries to rest as often as possible to milk ever tick of mp possible. It is also 50% probable that the rdm is on his feet when the mob hits camp to apply debuffs as soon as possible, and because they have the luxury of refresh at will and convert is always not too far off.

So, how do you expect the whm on their knees to be up in the middle of the melee throwing up barfira?

Akisu keeps throwing this back on me, she has yet to say anything about Elleshar, and that is the true heart of the problem. I can get along just as well with anyone as I can disaggree with them, I don't care. I'll be your best friend, and I'll also chew your ass when you deserve it. I appologized the to monk and mages who may not have understood my problem when I was avidly requesting the paladin use healing spells to hold hate. You look at the end result and base assumptions on the minimal of information presented. I did get a little tissy at Barfira... after being told like 3 times for silena midcast.

I'm not a novice, I know when to remove statuses, and I know that if a gob hits camp I have to barfira if no one else does. But I also know that I was blowing upwards of 600 mp a fight (I hovered around 200 for the longest time out of 680). So when a gob hits camp and I'm at 400, I am going to rest until its neccessary that I get up. I have very little mandate over when a puller decides I've rested enough. I also have less mandate over when a gob decides to drop a bomb and incinerate our party.

As for her performance. Please...

That's all I can say... please.

She wasn't the worst, but by large she was far FAR from being good.

So yeah, I was a little miffed to start, having to full cure the pally every fight, being told when he needed what when I was already casting before he had a chance to finish typing what he had, I was miffed at being told Barfira. Yes, a little. Does a rdm get miffed when people say "Refresh!"

I think so.

What's the difference?

If you're going to nit-pick at me for how I do things, you better make sure you leave no room for error. You also better make sure that you know exactly what you're talking about before jumping in head first. And you had best to point your finger in the right direction next time. This is ment for Akisu, and Akisu alone. Jimm, I commend you for sticking up for your friend.

Akisu, quit warrior now and do us all the favor. Focus on white mage and learn about the roles of the other jobs and how they interact with each other. Obviously you fail to see where this breakdown occured.

Pld doesn't heal, pld doesn't hold hate... who is going to be the first person to say something? The whm.

The pld refuses to change, or better, taunts the whm with casting Cure I and Cure II at best... what's going to happen? The whm is gonna get super pissed.

The pld bitches about needing Silena when its already on the way, what's the whm gonna say to him? STFU and heal yourself and MAYBE I'll silena you.

Pld still refuses to do his stuff right, and then turns on the whm bitching that if I did my job right we wouldn't have a problem what happens? Whm leaves.

This is how the story played out, if you don't like it, find a whm who will be a chump for your loser parties. That is uncalled for, and I reserve the right to be exceptionally angry. My words were not listened to, my words were laughed at, scoffed, and thrown back at me in mockery. To not get angry would almost take saint-like patience, and that's not who I am.

I am fiery, quick to anger, quicker to point out massive flaws and make suggestions. I am notorious for changing something little to effect the efficiency of the party (like greatsword for powerslash instead of ass scythe for vorpal). I weigh and balance everything in accordance with my 600+ some odd levels of this job and that job. I've played jobs (with the exception of bst and smn) to 40+, I have a solid working knowledge of how each should function and how they should fit into the party format. I know the renkei chart forwards an backwards, I know magic bursts, I know what mobs are likely to resist what (weapon and magic wise). I do not go out and make wild suggestions on a whim, and I am prepared to back anything I say up with actions, not words. Akisu, you're a whm, congratulations, but you shouldn't give suggestions out to everyone else and demand they follow it as scripture.

You don't understand the fundamentals of how people work together, how the jobs get along in unison to creat a balanced, efficient party. You're in over your head pointing your finger at the loud one because I didn't fit into your puzzle perfectly. Like Meeze, I will not hesitate to point you critical flaw, I will not hesitate to get rid of a member who is causing us to stumble. Had it been my party, the paladin would have lasted 15 minutes and been on a boat back to his home point, with or without a replacement.

I didn't get to where I am in the game by putting up with bastards like him, and it is impossible to get anywhere in a situation like that. Those parties are riddled with deaths, blunders, anger, frustration, everything. Point your finger at me, know there are at least three on your hand pointing back at you. And while I know when I point to him the same applies to me, I also know that my crap is square and in order. You just don't seem to be able to deal with the fact.

 

[Rones]

Take a few psychology or leadership classes and you will understand. Apparently you think that everyone should act like little automated droids doing this or doing that as if pushing a button to turn them on. A whm's top priority is and always will be to keep a good reading on the HP (A+) status of a party. Everything else is second to that.

What does psychology and leadership have to do with anything you wrote? Or did you just throw that in to try to add some authority to a post lacking support? If you are going to bring that up to insult someone, you better elaborate further.

 

[Ayrie]

Acc Gear

Hey, at 48 I had +52 accuracy, enough that Kabobs still had 80%+ accuracy. You're 62... lets see... decent level 62 gear:

Range: Taphia Sting or whatever it is

Neck: PCC, RK Collar, Merman's Gorget (depending on how much you want to put into it)

Earring: Assault Earring

Body: Haubgergeon

Hands: RK Mufflers

Rings: Snipers (or my preference Woodsman, keep your defense, not gonna dodge crap anyways)

Waist: Life Belt

Legs: Fighter's

Total: I'm counting about 45. And your image shows you to be in a noble's tunic.. seems like you just tried to cheap a job to 75... now who is being lazy?

You want to flame me based on the party, don't base me on ideals, base me on what happened or silence the tongue. You keep detracting away to idealogical banter about 75s doing this and that, cannons, and what if the rdm wasn't there.

Stick to the facts of what we have and you'll survive in this a lot better.

 

[Ayrie]

Leadership and Psychology

The comment is easily summed by this:

If you and those around you are successful, morale will tend to be higher, spirits happier, and everyone will get a long a lot better.

On the reverse:

If you and those around you are suffering from failure, morale will drop, spirits will fade, anger will consume, frustration will run high, and tempers will flare.

I see where this is very valid to the situation. I mean apparently the issue started out being me warping after a fight "without notice." Well, the above model may supply you with insight to the nature of the problem, not just static words while people try to disassociate the feelings and mental standings of those involved. This is a misunderstanding, an argument if you will, scientific method will not apply, and not understanding how feelings fit into the matter is to totally misunderstand the entire situation.

 

[Akisu]

Stick to the facts of what we have and you'll survive in this a lot better.

Here's the facts, which you keep deviating from...

This post was started to complain about you being a hypocrit about the whole situation, then warping out and leaving us for dead.

Your little tantrum about barfira started any and all arguements in the party.

Asking for generaly in party Barfira, neither targeted at whm, or rdm, is perfectly acceptable.

The pld wasn't perfect, but wasn't bad either. We had one death, which was due to a link early on, other then that, no other deaths.

The party wasn't bad. Except for your incessant whining about the pld, along with the name calling from both sides after you started on him... if anything, I would say part of the reason he was misstiming his casts was because he was trying to argue back against your banter.

You don't like me? Great. You want to call me out on my gear? That's wonderful, I don't have to justify myself to you at all. Cheap job? My war is well equiped with the exception of a haub that I lost, along with my nobles from whm, in a personal issue which I really don't feel like explaining. I've already said there's plenty of wars with better gear then me.

Pld doesn't heal, pld doesn't hold hate... who is going to be the first person to say something? The whm.

The pld refuses to change, or better, taunts the whm with casting Cure I and Cure II at best... what's going to happen? The whm is gonna get super pissed.

The pld bitches about needing Silena when its already on the way, what's the whm gonna say to him? STFU and heal yourself and MAYBE I'll silena you.

Pld still refuses to do his stuff right, and then turns on the whm bitching that if I did my job right we wouldn't have a problem what happens? Whm leaves.

Let's try for a more accurate version.

The pld was curing himself, he in no way was telling you to shut up and cure him because he likes to stare at a full bar of mp. He was trying to cure himself, and was. He was holding hate decently, but always seemed to lose it when me and the mnk SC early in fight, which you can blame the mnk for, he was SC opener.

The pld does taunt the hypocritical whm *who just finished complaining about having people tell you how to play...* who is yelling at him to bascily main heal himself with cure1 and 2, because there is no way hes going to listen to any suggestion or comment you tell him after telling him "You suck, your the worst pld ever." in party.

 

[Ayrie]

Cure Spells

Yeah, watch out for that incredibly effective Cure I, its gonna go a long way to keep hate. And I started the "banter" on the curing issue because he wasn't keeping hate. Cure 1 and Cure 2 do not cut it at level 62... Cure 1 isn't even a whole hit, Cure 2 is just about 1. When you have to time it between 2 attacks from the mob, then spell cool down lets another through, Cure 3 is a much more effective tool at this level, cure 4 for when things get really out of control and your hp drops. Cure 1 is a slap in my face. It accomplishes nothing.

My hostility was not unfounded. Nor was it unwarrented. Unless you have something constructive to add, other than the fact that I just don't like you or Elleshar, please, put it in here. If you have some reasonable thing to add about my job performance, please, add it here.

If you want to flame me for my attitude, bitch to your linkshell. I'm sure the people here don't want to hear about your petty problems with an ill tempered whm who had a huge problem with a paladin who cannot properly heal or tank. If that is all, I think we should close this link and let the issue rest in peace, apparently there is nothing constructive but mudslinging to be gained out of this.

 

[Thnikkaman]

I just have one last little thing to say about this whole cure thing. I just wanted to say that I find it's best to use higher level Cure spells, especially after Lv51, and even moreso after Lv68. You're looking at it like without Light Staff:
Cure 1: 30/8
Cure 2: 90/24 (Cure 1 x3)
Cure 3: 172/46 (Cure 2 x 1.9167)
Cure 4: 329/88 (Cure 3 x 1.9130)

With Light Staff and Noble's Tunic:
Cure 1: 36/8 = 6 more HP for same MP
Cure 2: 108/24 = 18 more HP for same MP
Cure 3: 206/46 = 34 more HP for same MP
Cure 4: 395/88 = 67...

In conclusion, you're looking at the higher level the spell, the more MP you save because you use the same MP to cure way more HP. With Cure 1 you're only adding 6, but with Cure 4, you're looking at 67 extra HP for no extra cost. It's how I can go without a Vermy Cloak. I know what I'm doing.

 

[Akisu]

Edit >>> cut off the rest of it for some reason... /Continues from last post...

Yes, tell the PLD to stfu if hes going to harrass you for silena when your casting it, tell him go buy echo drops if he can't wait a few seconds. Seems like that solution would be second nature to you anyway.

Pld still refuses to do his stuff right *as the whm wants*, and then does turn on the whm who has been insulting him for an hour strait, instead of asking "Think you could time your cures a little better? I'm having some problems here..." and offer decent advice instead of "You suck! Cure yourself! <Insert random other insults>"... Then whm leaves... in one of worst possible times. I dont care if you leave or not, just dont leave when theres a chance of harming the pt..

Seriously, if it was so horrible for you, why did you stick around for an hour complaining the whole time? Seems to me you just like to whine.

This is how the story played out, if you don't like it, find a whm who will be a chump for your loser parties. That is uncalled for, and I reserve the right to be exceptionally angry. My words were not listened to, my words were laughed at, scoffed, and thrown back at me in mockery. To not get angry would almost take saint-like patience, and that's not who I am.

Your words weren't listened to for the very reason you'll never listen to me right now, who the heck in their right mind would listen to someone that has spent the last hour insulting them? lol... Of course your going to get laughed at, scoffed and have your words thrown in your face. Not get angry? You started the whole thing.

Next time try asking someone nicely to change their play style, instead of insulting them about it for an hour, and expecting them to jump through your little hoops.

You're complaining Im not talking about the pld? I have been this whole time, Im not sure why he stayed and listened to your banter either.

My point is this, there is NO excuse to warp while the situation is bad and leave people to die in some random zone because you get pissed off at *one* person out of 5. There was also no reason for you to be mad in the first place... The pld had every right to yell "HEAL!" then "SILENA!" in party when his hp dropped to 40 some, because you were "milking every last drop of mp you could", that or just not paying attention. It's funny that it was our first fight though... had full mp.

For you to go off like you did on the 2nd or 3rd fight... over something as trivial as them asking you for silena or me asking for barfira? What, you expect us to generaly assume you are the most elite best whm ever? We don't know you. For all we know, you could not even own barfira... yes, I had a whm like that a week ago in CN, didn't own silena. So yes, there was absolutly no reason for you to go off on a simple thing as that in the first few fights when everyone was adapting to the party.

Then lashing out at the pld? Yes, I know I'm repeating myself again, but you seem to like to hear me repeat things because you bring the same thing up over and over expecting a diffrent answer or something... Lashing out at the paladin for not curing himself enough, after you just lashed out for people telling you what to do... not 5 minutes before... honestly makes you look just plain stupid. What would you think of someone who goes off in public about people pushing them around, then starts trying to push someone else around? You'd think they were crazy, that or it's your boss, either or.

People don't like being bossed around, especially by someone who can't take the tinyest little question, not even directed directly at them. You need to get a thicker skin, then you can start using your claws... Don't dish it out if you can't take it.

Why would I take this to my LS? Last time I checked, this IS the flameboard, and it is the best place to blow off steam when someone reallllllyyy pisses you off. Which I decided to do.

You can play the game your way, build perfect partys and tolerate nothing, but if you decide to come down to my apparent lowly slum level of doing things in such an aweful pickup party, don't complain for an hour strait about something as stupid as some personal thing with the pld, then warp out leaving everyone for dead. If you don't like it, leave without your long streak of complaining. And, if you must complain, put it somewhere where it belongs... like here on the flameboard.

 

[TheGreatJonas]

blah, blah, blah, look whatever you name is...(didnt really bother to make note of it....) I really hate when whms like yourself think you are hot shit just because you level a whm. You are level 62, you havent done shit in this game yet(even on that shitty ass SAM of yours) and with you whiny ass attitude you never will. Since when does fucking asking for Barfira consistute a person attack of such epic porportions that you have to start whining like 6 year old school girl. If it was my party i would have booted your dumbass the moment you bitched about casting barfira, shut the fuck up, cast the spell, and take your dumbass back to your resting spot and cure. it takes literally two freaking seconds to cast that damn spell in the beginning of a fight.

You also have no right to bitch about a PLD not doing his job when you obviously cant do your with even a sliver of professionalism....You do not reused to stona someone jsut because you feel like throwing a world class hissy fit in an exp party. you want to know how to handle something with a little professionalism? You ask politely or suggest something in a manner so that people actualy respect what you have to say. Saying something like " OMG you are the worst PLD ever" is something some level 17 gimp war in the dunes with an underleveled sub would say....

Also about you level a ton of jobs to 40+? so fucking what...a 10 year old child could level something to 40....hell my 8 year old brother could probably log and and do that....and you want a damn cookie over it? You have done nothing in this game! Please dont parade around like you are somebody...i mean damn...since i came back every noob thinks he or she is hot shit now....

As for your Earlier banter about my name....damn fucking right i am the Great Jonas. I am great because of everything i do...i am the best fucking RNG out there. though i am sure some people might dissagree and call my a noob....but i didnt know i had fallen so low as to be rediculed by some shit level 62 whm.

Wait.....I havent fallen that low...I am still the best and prove it everyday....damn i was worried for a moment!

The Great Jonas

P.S. want to see some gear bitch? come check me since you seem to put all your stock in that! You can dream about stuff you will never have! weeeeeeee!

 

[Thnikkaman]

P.S. want to see some gear bitch? come check me since you seem to put all your stock in that! You can dream about stuff you will never have! weeeeeeee!

That's actually really rude. Sorry.

 

[Rones]

I just have one last little thing to say about this whole cure thing. I just wanted to say that I find it's best to use higher level Cure spells, especially after Lv51, and even moreso after Lv68. You're looking at it like without Light Staff:
Cure 1: 30/8
Cure 2: 90/24 (Cure 1 x3)
Cure 3: 172/46 (Cure 2 x 1.9167)
Cure 4: 329/88 (Cure 3 x 1.9130)

With Light Staff and Noble's Tunic:
Cure 1: 36/8 = 6 more HP for same MP
Cure 2: 108/24 = 18 more HP for same MP
Cure 3: 206/46 = 34 more HP for same MP
Cure 4: 395/88 = 67...

In conclusion, you're looking at the higher level the spell, the more MP you save because you use the same MP to cure way more HP. With Cure 1 you're only adding 6, but with Cure 4, you're looking at 67 extra HP for no extra cost. It's how I can go without a Vermy Cloak. I know what I'm doing.

First to correct your soft cap base cure amounts.
Cure 1: 30/8
Cure 2: 90/24 (Cure 1 x3)
Cure 3: 180/46
Cure 4: 360/88

Additionally, you might want to rethink your math. +10% and +20% cures does the exact same thing regardless of the base amounts. All cures are getting multipled by the same percent so it can be factored out for our purposes. Going off hp cured per mp cost cure 1 and 2 have identical ratios which make them equally efficient. Adding 10 or 20% cured onto them doesn't change it. Cure 1 only gets 6 added from 20%, but when you consider 3 x cure 1 = 1 x cure 2, 3 x 6 = cure2's extra 18.

The difference that makes higher lvl cures more efficient is the subtle mp cost differences. While cure 3 is double the power of cure 2, the mp cost is slightly less than double. Same goes for cure 4 and 5. This is even more pronounced if you look at the curaga line of spells.

Curaga costs 60 mp (equal to cure 2 on everyone)
Curaga 2 costs 120 mp (equal to cure 3 on everyone)
Curaga 3 costs 180 mp (equal to cure 4 on everyone)
Curaga 4 costs 240 mp (equal to cure 5 on everyone)

Curaga 3 has double the power of curaga 2, but not double the cost (40 mp difference). Curaga 4 is a huge bargin, instead of double the mp cost of curaga 3 which would be 360 it is only 240, a savings of 120 mp.