My Theory on AV and how to defeat it

Kunel said:
Let me share something with you. Until you all grow up and learn to respect each others ideas and come up with a collabrative plan where you can work togather peacefully, NA ppl will never win against AV. Do you know why JP get shit done more effectively? There is no JP BUTTON, all it amounts to is their ability to work in groups more peacefully and more organized then NA players.
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Very well said :D. JP are a lot more organized, respectful and so on.
 
meeze said:
so...I'm bringing up stuff everyone already knew...which is that the theories are bogus...well obviously there are a few people that think this inovative thinking (IE you and Uzor)
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I never said I think the original theory would work. The only thing I did was defending Gerry, who only COMMENTED on the original theory, at which point you jumped down his throat for NO REASON.
meeze said:
When I start spewing shit about things I don't know call me ignorant, when i tell someone who doesn't know shit to stfu, agree with me, rate me up, take a picture, however you want to deal with it.
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why the fuck should I rate you up, agree with you, take a picture etc.? You're not right, there's nothing to be proud of. You're in the wrong, so I'd much rather prefer rating you down. That, however, is against my own morals, hence why I won't. Besides, I'm sure you'd throw a bitch fit and rate me down as well in order to at least have some sense of pride left in your body. Not that I care, but anyway.
meeze said:
Noob: Hai guyz, i bet mnk/rdm is 1337
Meeze: stfu, it makes no sense
Uzor: dont knock it till you try it!!!!
Meeze: it's been tried, it sucks
Uzor runs away.
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Yeah, because going to bed is running a way.
 
Dethan said:
This thread is not going anywhere, because people like Meeze just know how to kick someone's ideas, we are not going anywhere with people like you.
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It's not going anywhere because someone read that AV was impossible to kill since they fixed the glitch kill method, did an hour of research on sea drops, and came up with a theory that had been tried several times before and been disproven.

I'm all for shells trying methods that they haven't tried before, but others have tried unsucessfully. It's a new experience for the group, and it helps them learn some things not to do, possibly helping them learn what to do. However, random people making unoriginal theories isn't helpful.
 
Kunel said:
Let me share something with you. Until you all grow up and learn to respect each others ideas and come up with a collabrative plan where you can work togather peacefully, NA ppl will never win against AV. Do you know why JP get shit done more effectively? There is no JP BUTTON, all it amounts to is their ability to work in groups more peacefully and more organized then NA players.
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Except that NA's already beat AV. (Before they patched him, obviously.) JPs won't be the first to beat this form of AV, all anyone has to do is come by and /check a few of their members and they'll be too busy sending out tells to concentrate on the fight.
 
want a theory? 72 people, 4 alliances +, when AV drops one, the next crew steps in. No more bitching about who's popset it was, no GM calls for stealing, f*ck the drops figure that sh!t out later, and get the antiloldrg dead.
 
Isomiau said:
want a theory? 72 people, 4 alliances +, when AV drops one, the next crew steps in. No more bitching about who's popset it was, no GM calls for stealing, f*ck the drops figure that sh!t out later, and get the antiloldrg dead.
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Bene..oshi...
 
AV will rape 4 alliances just as fast as he'll rape 2. Insta-cast Meteor can... will kill anyone in range, and Bene will undo all progress whenever he feels like it. The CFH zerg-with-100+-people has been tried before as well, only made more victims for <insert AoE spell here>.
 
dedalius said:
Yea, and soon Sea will be released. Oh wait, this isn't 2005. JPs are just like everyone else.
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i was not refering to sea but in general.
 
Uzor said:
I never said I think the original theory would work. The only thing I did was defending Gerry, who only COMMENTED on the original theory, at which point you jumped down his throat for NO REASON.
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He said that in all of his extensive research it had never been tried, well...let's see:

Necrosis said:
HOW COME WE DIDN'T THINK OF THIS BEFORE

Quick, to sea!
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Mai Ikari said:
This has been tried MANY times before, hasn't worked yet.
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Dowzer said:
Please leave the dead horse alone. :(
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Mai Ikari said:
You must really never go to BlueGartr... This whole thing, meleeing jobs with weapons and matching torques, has been tried several times... Usually with nothing more than a "Yea, we tried, it didn't do shit" mention. It's only the AV kills that get long posts, so I can understand if you never noticed them... but as I said, it's been tried repeatedly, never worked.

Except that one odd effect in Uzor's AV thread a little ways down, but that hasn't been recreated, so I say it was just a fluke.

...waitaminute...

Uzor's thread on AV is still on this page. It's almost the exact same theory.

Why does this thread exist?
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All these people chimed in before me. Gerry was the only one who felt this theory was new, when in fact, everyone I just quoted seems to have heard it all before.

Uzor said:
why the fuck should I rate you up, agree with you, take a picture etc.? You're not right, there's nothing to be proud of. You're in the wrong, so I'd much rather prefer rating you down. That, however, is against my own morals, hence why I won't. Besides, I'm sure you'd throw a bitch fit and rate me down as well in order to at least have some sense of pride left in your body. Not that I care, but anyway.
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It's a joke Luzor...that wasn't even directed at you...you're just mad some noob came up with the same "theory" you, the "endgame vet" came up with.
 
so you keep people outta range, flee a thf in to pull after an alliance wipes to cut the unclaimed regen short, either hope he bene's early or just fight thru it, once AV uses said 2 hr thats it right? i dont remember see'n anything bout him spamming a particular 2hr. (i very well could be wrong on that)
 
Isomiau said:
so you keep people outta range, flee a thf in to pull after an alliance wipes to cut the unclaimed regen short, either hope he bene's early or just fight thru it, once AV uses said 2 hr thats it right? i dont remember see'n anything bout him spamming a particular 2hr. (i very well could be wrong on that)
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He can use any 2-hour, anytime he wants, as many times as he wants... In sets of three. (I think Manafont/Chainspell/Blood Weapon is one combo, Benediction/Invincible/Mighty Strikes is another).

And the usual tactic is to use a few people on level 1 jobs to constantly reraise zerg him, since that avoids exp loss to important jobs (using that BRD AoE reraise song).
 
and the 100+cfh failed too eh? well, thats just shitty.

what if everyone melee'd AV with jailer weapons while wearing torques and AND using virtue stones...:sars09:
 
Wow, this topic went from lame to hilarious pretty fast. As an aside, the obvious way to defeat AV is to have PUPs continually have their automatons (in melee/tank mode) use Shield Bash until AV gives up and dies from confusion. I bet no one's tried it yet!
 
Rappa said:
Wow, this topic went from lame to hilarious pretty fast. As an aside, the obvious way to defeat AV is to have PUPs continually have their automatons (in melee/tank mode) use Shield Bash until AV gives up and dies from confusion. I bet no one's tried it yet!
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Well... he's right there... nobody's tried that yet... because we don't have enough PUP75's in one linkshell to form an alliance yet... >_>
 
Maybe not on this server, but certainly on others.

But pchan would probably be forced to post if I said there wern't 18 PUP75's on this server, so I refrained.
 
Mai Ikari said:
Such a huge whoosh it deserves extra quoting.
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WHOOOOOSH?


To actually add too the thread, we popped AV on Leviathan a little while ago, and while our lvl 1 bst was holding him he sam 2hred at one point with wyverns up, and the wyvern killed the bst. Then we pulled him and he did the hueg AoE+stun move 3 times in a row, it sucked.

We did manage to get him down to 89% though on another pull, then CS meteor made baby jesus cry.
 
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