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Punitan2

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First, sorry english bad...;

I want to write, Party with NA person. I like party with NA person. But the party I have yesterday, last week, 2 week ago, was all bad TT. I play bard job now. It is difficult. I need alot help in party.

I play before SUMMONER. It was difficult. I did many cure. I only do cure in party... I was a white mage. Many people no help with cure me summoner. Many people no help listen Position in party me bard. Many black mage use strong spell alot. Many black mage no help cure white mage.

I want enjoy with NA party. But I am now tired. I no like JP only. I want friend with NA. We all can do good. Need listen some person in party. Need work together I think.

Thank you listening.

Punitan
 
My Japanese is worse than your English, so if you still want to party, I'm up for it.

:P
 
I'm sorry you've had some bad experiences with NA players Puritan, but the truth is, even us good NA players have bad experiences with other NA players who aren't as good. Hopefully your luck will change. Good partys are out there. Good luck to you. Maybe someday you can party with me, id look foward to that.
 
In all fairness I have partied with Horrible JP players before. And I have played with awesome NA players as well. I can't belive that some JP players still don't give us NA player veterans the respect we deserve.

That's my two cents.
 
Punitan2 said:
First, sorry english bad...;

I want to write, Party with NA person. I like party with NA person. But the party I have yesterday, last week, 2 week ago, was all bad TT. I play bard job now. It is difficult. I need alot help in party.

I play before SUMMONER. It was difficult. I did many cure. I only do cure in party... I was a white mage. Many people no help with cure me summoner. Many people no help listen Position in party me bard. Many black mage use strong spell alot. Many black mage no help cure white mage.

I want enjoy with NA party. But I am now tired. I no like JP only. I want friend with NA. We all can do good. Need listen some person in party. Need work together I think.

Thank you listening.

Punitan

Thank you for PT'ing with NA's. I don't think there is anything more rude then someone saying JP ONLY!

Again, thank you.
 
I'll party with you! What levels are you? As Sneaky said, my Japanese is probably a lot worse than your english, but I'm all for making new friends!
 
Hi Puni... I remember seeing you on the seeking list a lot =P

I don't know if Shiia mentioned our SMN PT we are making soon but if you are interested, please send a tell in-game =), we are just waiting for some people to get to level 70 first.
 
yeah it was reverse for me. i had an awesome all jp pt (except for me) once, but one of the worst times i had in ballista was when i was the only american and i got zilch backup besides once when i bassicaly pestered the whm about being poisened
 
It was quite surprising him posting in here. Well that explained yesterday while I logged for a bit asked me if there was any sort of public board for Quetz server where english speakers gather, and I pointed here.

After I read his thread, I went back online and asked him about this issue since I did not quite comprehend what he wanted to say. He was quite tired and also seems to be frustrated aswell.

Well all things happened back in the time when he was a summoner. I posted before about the issue which he was positioned into a pure "Gimp Whm" yes? Well part of his post was about this. Most likly he wanted help, or aid from the party members which he didn't received even when the leader told them so.

His main reason why he posted here was what I have expected. I made a couple of posts about being a bard was hard without the cooperation of the party members. Last night he seems to have got a party invite from NA people. He accepted, since the leader told him it was War, Drk, Blm, Whm as a current set up. Seems that the leader invited the rdm but soon after rdm have left so he invited another blm. Now during this level a 2 melee 4 mages party works but the tank has to keep close attention to the hate.

Now he told me the levels. It was: 44 Warrior (lowest in party) with 21 thf sub (he said the nin and mnk subs were around 10ish), 45 Drk subbed war (adequate sub), 46 whm (large mp pool with erase), 44~45 blm (one subbed rdm and another subbed whm). He said they went to althepa. The reason why he hasn't left was he gives chances to each party he joins.

Target seemed Helm beetles (the one entering from West althepa). Naturaly, he was a little worried. A 44 war as tank and not the best sub to be a tank. So he was worried about what songs to sing for the tank. But since positioning was near impossible due to his lack of english he had to do the usual madrigal, minuette line. Ballad and etude to the mages.

As you expected blm has fired up alot of nukes from the begining. Casting and spamming II levels spells and naturaly it went to the blm alot. Due to the fact that the tank and melees are weaker than the mages, the amount of curing needed was intence, and since blm was no where helping in cures untill the whm depletes the mp, the brd (him) had to empty his mp aswell. Many times he told me, his song was screwed since blm nuked alot, ballad has gone to the melees so he had to recast the melee songs alot to over write them.

After the 8th time his song was screwed since blm has nuked too hard, (even the leader told him to slow down) he had it. He used Warp scroll and went anon. And logged out.

Punitan is my best friend I got, and the most helpfull person I have found in this game. He is patient, and what he ment by "No JP only" means he doesn't want to put the JP only flag and limit himself into JP party only. He likes new faces, and new people to play with. But obviously if those are the people who are "I play how I please" people without thinking twice, even him gets ticked. Its really hard to tick him off. I think it is the first party who he has left without warning and logged out.

He states the same thing as I have mentioned in the previous posts.

I want enjoy with NA party. But I am now tired. I no like JP only. I want friend with NA. We all can do good. Need listen some person in party. Need work together I think.
 
That is a major issue with a LOT of people Puritan. I'm sure the majority of us agree with you. The problem is that our culture in general promotes the star individual. Many do not realize that this game involves a great deal of teamwork and think that they can do what THEY want without any negative consequences. Hopefully you just had a run in with a few bad groups.

One question I have for you though. I have noticed that even when they are in a horrible, just completely wrong party, they will not leave. I commend the Japanese determination to stick with it. I realize not all will do this, but why is it you will not just leave a truly bad party?

Thank you for commenting. Hopefully you will have a few good encounters with some NA people to change your views. ^^
 
I will explain that. Punitan himself told me he took about 1hour to write up all that (dictionary mayhem I believe).

Japanese has a motto of respecting one person to the other even if that person is a complete stranger. The leader usually makes their effort of gathering a party which some people fail to have to motivation or the initial effort of doing so. So it sees as non respectfull when people leave immediately the party just because the group is bad. Yes the JP people (most of them who follow these rules of course) will stay till the party ends as their share of respect towards the party members. My LS pld also stayed up for the group even after he died 5 times in a row and exp resulted a -1000.

Its our culture I believe to stick with the respect towards others. Failing to do so will result as a bad manner in our eyes. Its something different from the Europeans and American people. This is not only for leaving, but for going afk for long hours and such also I believe falls into this same simptome (sp?),

Expect to see people who agreed to join the party to stick till the PT ends. Its our way of interacting with people. So if Punitan has left without warning, using a warp scroll and logged out... you can see how much he got fed up. Sadly this board, this topic won't fall to the eyes of most people who falls into this category. The reason "I" believe he left without word, is that he didn't know how to express it in english.

P.S. @Svina, he seemed interested in the smn party. Although he usually is on when I am GMT+1 time.

P.P.S. Punitan is a lvl 46 brd (current) 70 summoner, 73 white mage. He "Should" be online (since I haven't been on much so don't know about now) around 7pm ~ 12pm GMT time.
 
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i remember now

i pt'd with Punitan a couple of times ^^;

good person

and quite understandable what he said

"Need listen some person in party. Need work together I think. "

communication communication communication~~~ :o
 
There was this guy who had a good Bazaar comment it said:(I think this was it...)
"The 3 C's of partying...
1. Consideration 2. Cooperation 3. Communication"

I thought I might just add that, it's a good rule...
 
Though JP are just as guilty of being stubborn in a party. I've been blamed for the party's death (all JP pt) when the puller brought back a nice train (I was WHM btw). I quote what they were joking about in JP

We should've waited for a JP WHM

Things like this are said a lot it seems when NA are in a (preferrably) all JP party, like we can't read what they're saying. You might not realize it though. This is why I've become so bitter to most of the JP population on this game, which is not to say I'll judge someone before getting to know them, if they want to try and get to know me as well.
 
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