Naruto Anime & Manga Discussion Thread (contains spoilers)

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He was perfectly ready to kill Naruto. Like he said, though, he spared his life on a whim.


Thats what he said but that is not true. He talks big but he hasn't killed anyone and probably won't until later in the series. The 2 things that I dislike most about Sasuke is that he joined Orochimaru(because he did kill the 3rd) and for his Jealousy of Naruto's power. We really don't know if he was doing all these things just for power alone or if he has other motives also. Maybe He did some of these to deter Itachi and Orochimaru from the village?

Hopefully he can do better from here and follow his brothers path, but he will probably do something stupid and side with Madara and try to destroy the village.
 
pfft, Naruto coulda beat Sasuke if Naruto was actually trying to kill Sasuke too :P Sasuke can't win ANYTHING without the other person going easy or without some power that was never his since birth :P the only fight he actually won on his own was the chuunin pre-exam thing
 
He was perfectly ready to kill Naruto. Like he said, though, he spared his life on a whim. You can't honestly compare his blood vendetta with what Itachi did. His vengeance would serve nobody but himself. Itachi, however, wanted Sasuke to kill him, just so Sasuke would be revered as the hero who defeated the "evil" Itachi.

Sasuke can't be called a good person just because he was willing to throw his life away for revenge. That's an extreme amount of bullshit, and hurts everyone who cares about his sorry ass. (Though it'd make those of us who hate him just a bit happier.) Once again, it all boils down to Sasuke being an asshat who didn't choose the right path. Itachi destroyed all traces of Orochimaru and the curse seal inside him and let himself die to Sasuke's hand, passing on his Ameterasu, he wanted Sasuke to begin redeeming himself and protect the Leaf village. Whether Sasuke will bother carrying on his brother's wishes remains to be seen. Personally, I've got no faith in him. Plus, we have Sai now.

let me re-clarify, i never said or meant to say that sasuke is good, he is morally ambigious(read: doesn't care or ponder morality) like how I described itachi before the truth was revealed. All I'm saying is, Sasuke can't take much of the blame because he never had a family to guide him on the "right" path, he obtains friends later on and not before he shapes his mind into killing itachi, which wasn't really his choice.

Yes it was his choice to pursue him, but not his original agenda as his agenda was to impress his father and be on equal grounds with his brother until itachi brainwashed him into other plans. You can't just simply force yourself into another realm of thinking after all of your senses are flooded with mangekyou images, which is a genjutsu and genjutsus are primarily used to distract and distort which makes them vulnerable to be killed or manipulated. Like Sasuke did with Manda or like Itachi did with Sasuke and of course how Jiraiya nearly killed Pein(Pain?) with it.

His character background and his ambigousness in morality make him a good character to drive the plot of the story since his family's history and now what he's done has now affected or was a part of about half or more of the story.

In short if there was no sasuke there'd be no greater depth to the anime than the other's stories which aren't shallow tales either but, sasuke's story complements them and brings them together.


on the other comment mentioned by someone, I think madara wants to control konoha again, Pein fits into it as being god of all lesser countries and madara controls a small part of it.

I'm still confused as to how Kisame wanted to help Itachi, possibly another morally ambigious person(read: has a complicated history), but I highly doubt it.

Oh and another thought, I guess the english dub was right about the cursed seal and Orochimaru link, of course that's not 100% infallible, they should probrably all be gone from those afflicted with it, except the source.
 
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Thats what he said but that is not true. He talks big but he hasn't killed anyone and probably won't until later in the series. The 2 things that I dislike most about Sasuke is that he joined Orochimaru(because he did kill the 3rd) and for his Jealousy of Naruto's power. We really don't know if he was doing all these things just for power alone or if he has other motives also. Maybe He did some of these to deter Itachi and Orochimaru from the village?

Hopefully he can do better from here and follow his brothers path, but he will probably do something stupid and side with Madara and try to destroy the village.

Sasuke wouldn't have received the powers if Orochimaru didnt want him as a vessel. Orochimaru obviously wouldnt go after Itachi since he knows all about the Akatsuki because he used to be a member. Not until Sasuke gets his a$$ kicked by Itachi does he decide to go see Orochimaru, but not because he wants to be on his side. Sasuke wants all the power he can get to kill Itachi and avenge his family. As for being jealous of Naruto's Power, i dont think Sasuke realized how much training Naruto was really getting from Jirayah and Kakashi. Sasuke had it easy which is why he disgusts me with always copying peoples moves ( because without Sharingan he would be crap) like Rock Lee's Taijutsu. Naruto was original at least with his sexy jutsu and multi shadow clone Uzamaki Barage. lol


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Naruto was original at least with his sexy jutsu and multi shadow clone Uzamaki Barage. lol

He made up the Uzumaki barage just to show off though, it was a spur of the moment thing in the chuunin exams because Sasuke had Lion barage...he never really uses it now anyway
 
Another copied move from Rock Lee!! XD Naruto at least made it up like you said.
 
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Posting this early because it's an incredible chapter.

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More flashbacks from itachi and sasuke together as children. sasuke finally comes to the realization of everything madara said and cries, then notices hebi has arrived.

with hebi looking at him with madara, sasuke opens his eyes to reveal that he now has EMS (eternal mangekyou sharingan) and renames his team to "hawk" with the mission to obliterate konoha

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I'm shocked
 
WTF, JUST WTF....FUCK YOU SASUKE...

tch, if my brother ever did that...i would haunt him
 
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES

yesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyeyesYES!!!!!

SASUKE IS GOING TO DIE!!! XD

Oh and his Mangekyou is sorta interesting..

BUT YES HE IS GOING TO FUCKING DIE!!!!!!!!

wee hee hee yahoo haha
 
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it's not too suprising to me either way you spin it, sasuke can't bring himself to trust konoha because either way he looked at it they fucked with his clan by keeping tabs on them and then sending itachi to murder them, itachi never did really trust konoha he loved his brother more. Somehow i don't think itachi would disapprove as danzou has been hinted to be a nasty guy and needs to be exterminated, now the problem is that sasuke wants all of konoha in flames(correct?) so yeah there'd be interference there
 
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES

yesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyeyesYES!!!!!

SASUKE IS GOING TO DIE!!! XD

Oh and his Mangekyou is sorta interesting..

BUT YES HE IS GOING TO FUCKING DIE!!!!!!!!

wee hee hee yahoo haha

I want to see who he beats though.....Rock Lee solo's him...
 
Too bad Naruto's technique isn't even finished and he still devistated the landscape when he used it against Kakuzu. And the toad hasn't even brought him the "key," or him learning that the fourth is his father(pride-based power boost/determination go) and Jiraiya biting it(rage-based power boost/determination go.) Even with a suped up Mangekyo, Sasuke's fucked.

Wait, if Hebi catches up to him, does that mean Kisame is no where to be found?

If Kisame honestly was defeated by Suigetsu, I'm going to be pretty fucking pissed. Since at 30%, that body transferrance was kicking the shit out of Gai and his team.
 
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EMS looks... strange <.<; I can't imagine Madara walking around with stars in his eyes.
 
"OMG he's got the eye of the jew."

Can't f'n wait for the Sasuke vs. Naruto rematch. Even though we all know who's gonna win.
 
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EMS looks... strange <.<; I can't imagine Madara walking around with stars in his eyes.
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The shape of a person's Mangekyou is unique. Itachi/Madara/Sasuke/Kakashi all have different patterns.
 
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EMS looks... strange <.<; I can't imagine Madara walking around with stars in his eyes.

They've shown what Madara's EMS looks like already(assuming "Eternal" and simply blindness preventive are one in the same.) It's just a combined pattern of both Mangekyo. However, since Sasuke hadn't achieved Mangekyo before Itachi transferred his somehow, we don't know what his pattern would have looked like.
 
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YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES

yesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyeyesYES!!!!!

SASUKE IS GOING TO DIE!!! XD

Oh and his Mangekyou is sorta interesting..

BUT YES HE IS GOING TO FUCKING DIE!!!!!!!!

wee hee hee yahoo haha

I really hope he does... cause I hate him >.> god I hope he dies by Naruto's hands too :D

oh dood! know what I just realized? Kishi is making Sasuke even more fail! :D he accepts madara's story ya? so now he's just THROWING AWAY what his brother sacrificed for? lol stupid
 
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I really hope he does... cause I hate him >.> god I hope he dies by Naruto's hands too :D

oh dood! know what I just realized? Kishi is making Sasuke even more fail! :D he accepts madara's story ya? so now he's just THROWING AWAY what his brother sacrificed for? lol stupid

Sasuke is now officially the biggest dick in the history of anime with no redeeming qualities whatsoever.

And it would indeed be awesome if Sasuke dies by Naruto's hands, even though its completely cliche its definately fitting.

Sasuke VS Naruto round 3... its finally happening.
 
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