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Let the flames begin, I can feel them coming anyway.
Alright, so, I know you've all heard this before. I'm sure all you higher level BST's know my plight, and I should just "deal with it" and normally I do. But lately the complete and utter stupidity that seems to have not only infected this game, but breed inside it, is getting on my nerves.
I'm lvl 58 BST. Barely 200 exp into that level, and I finally have my AF body. I haven't exp'd since then (about a week or so). Normally I don't mind dying, it's usually my own fault, and I have noone to blame but myself. I don't have a problem with this at all.
What I DO have a problem with, is the idiots who I am forced to level around from 56-60. Garlaige Citadel really isn't that bad as far as exp and pets. What really is bad is the parties. I don't mind exping around parties, I do mind exping around people who think they're better than me.
In the past few weeks (yes, it's taken me weeks to get from 56-58), I've received nothing but guff from the parties around me. I've been camped on top of every time I've gone to Garlaige. I politely warn people that it is very dangerous to camp on top of me. The usual response is "This is a two party camp, we can share"
NO WE CAN'T.
Parties stay in one spot, the only person who moves around is the puller. That's it. A BST requires room for the fight, ample room to get out of hate range to rest/castspells/get out of AOE, and room to allow a released pet to wander and regain HP without aggroing a party.
Parties do not understand this. They think it's a GOOD idea to camp on top of a BST fighting hellmines, then kill off his pets. The thing that really makes me laugh, is they have the nerve to blame ME when I end up dead on top of them, because I tried to run for my swap pet and got slammed with a beserked double attack for 3-400 damage because there wasn't one there; resulting in the bomb aggroing their party, blowing up, and killing the lot of them.
I've been threatened GM calls, and gotten into countless arguments and tiffs over this sort of thing. I've even tried to comprimise.
"Please, if you're going to try to share this camp with me, leave a few beetles around so I can get a pet when I need it without running all the way across the basement."
They say okay, and then completely ignore this request. I've died and delvl'd twice at 57 because of parties doing this. I try to justify my arguments, ya know, like a civilzed person.
-"Please, it's very dangerous for the both of us to camp here. I was here first, could you possibly try to find another camp?"
"The other camps are filled, we have no choice but to camp here."
-"Would you camp on top of another party if they were here first?"
"No"
-"So why would you consider camping on top of me? I'm just like a regular party. I'm getting exp here too, and camping on top of me is twice as dangerous as camping on top of another party, because a hellmine self destruct could take us all out in one fell swoop."
"You're only one person, we have 6 people here."
-"That makes your exp more important than mine? Suddenly because you have 6 people that gives you the right to force me out of my camp, deny me of exp, because you're more important"
*party doesnt' respond and just starts exping on my pets and every other mob near me, I continue pulling hellmines and stand my ground that it is my camp, and I will not be forced out.*
That's usually how it happens, and let me just say party responses were altered to look somewhat educated, rather than the thoughtless crapass AOL/l337speak you see so often nowadays. Usually one of two things happen:
1. I end up dead while running across the basement looking for a suitable pet, at least I'm away from the party so I'm only a little pissed off that I suffered a useless death.
2. My pet dies and I turn to grab my swap pet and find the party either exping on it, or having already killed it. I keep running but my HP is falling fast, and I end up dead close or on top of the party. The hellmine aggros them and ends up exploding, and the party starts the GM calls claiming I MPK'd them.
3. The extremely uncommon sequence of events. The party actually listens to me, realizing that it is very dangerous where I am and it would be best for them to move, and they do. We both continue happily exping and noone dies.
1 and 2 are both the bullsh*t scenario's I have to put up with every time I try to exp. I'm actually afraid to go exping in garlaige now because I know there's 80% chance I'm gonna end up dead and getting screamed at, and especially devlevel and lose my AF. Yes, I know, it's only exp and I can always level back up. But AF right now is sort of my prized possesion, I already deleveled once and was unable to wear it, but I was only 800 tnl and got it back relatively quickly (I logged on at about 3am and found a camp that wasn't taken).
Now I could go behind banishing gate number 2, probably get some really good experience. Problem is in my time exping in garlaige, I've only seen a party go behind gate 2 for whatever reason once. I don't have anyone or know anyone that would be willing to come all the way out to gate 2 just to open it for me, so my options for exping are as follows:
Garlaige citadel, and dying.
Lab of onzonzo, lvling on DC-T's that take forever to kill, and there's no safe camp at all. To be safe there I'd have to keep sneak and invis up at all times, which would limit my ability to issue pet commands, and heighten downtime considerably from always casting those two spells.
So as you see, this is quite frustrating, as Lab of Onzonzo isn't an ideal exp spot at all. I've done a few duo's at Quicksand caves, and they've been somewhat lucrative, but there's rarely 2-3 BST my level on at the same time (Beastmasters are EXTREMELY rare on my server). Usually I'm not so lucky as to land one of those situations.
This has been bugging me for a long time, and I can't wait till I can hit the Tree and start getting semi-good exp again. Or maybe go to Ulegrand range, I don't know, all I know is that it has GOT to be better than Garlaige. I've been seriously considering just partying from 58-60. I usually wear party-esque gear as I lvl: Spike earrings, Venerer and Sniper rings, Darksteel axe (I shouldn't have sold my Viking's ._.), Jaeger Mantle, Royal Knights Chainmail and breeches.
The only things that I lack the people might frown upon is that I'm wearing my AF helm, gloves, and feet. From what I've seen there's really no decent helms my level that would benefit me anyway, and I have battle gloves for my hands. I could buy feet gear and get Royal Knights boots, but I'm lacking in funds right now. I have a spike necklaces instead of a mermans gorget, which if I'm pushed enough I may get and party...
It's really depressing I've been pushed to something like this...Sorry for the long post, I just felt the need to rant.
Alright, so, I know you've all heard this before. I'm sure all you higher level BST's know my plight, and I should just "deal with it" and normally I do. But lately the complete and utter stupidity that seems to have not only infected this game, but breed inside it, is getting on my nerves.
I'm lvl 58 BST. Barely 200 exp into that level, and I finally have my AF body. I haven't exp'd since then (about a week or so). Normally I don't mind dying, it's usually my own fault, and I have noone to blame but myself. I don't have a problem with this at all.
What I DO have a problem with, is the idiots who I am forced to level around from 56-60. Garlaige Citadel really isn't that bad as far as exp and pets. What really is bad is the parties. I don't mind exping around parties, I do mind exping around people who think they're better than me.
In the past few weeks (yes, it's taken me weeks to get from 56-58), I've received nothing but guff from the parties around me. I've been camped on top of every time I've gone to Garlaige. I politely warn people that it is very dangerous to camp on top of me. The usual response is "This is a two party camp, we can share"
NO WE CAN'T.
Parties stay in one spot, the only person who moves around is the puller. That's it. A BST requires room for the fight, ample room to get out of hate range to rest/castspells/get out of AOE, and room to allow a released pet to wander and regain HP without aggroing a party.
Parties do not understand this. They think it's a GOOD idea to camp on top of a BST fighting hellmines, then kill off his pets. The thing that really makes me laugh, is they have the nerve to blame ME when I end up dead on top of them, because I tried to run for my swap pet and got slammed with a beserked double attack for 3-400 damage because there wasn't one there; resulting in the bomb aggroing their party, blowing up, and killing the lot of them.
I've been threatened GM calls, and gotten into countless arguments and tiffs over this sort of thing. I've even tried to comprimise.
"Please, if you're going to try to share this camp with me, leave a few beetles around so I can get a pet when I need it without running all the way across the basement."
They say okay, and then completely ignore this request. I've died and delvl'd twice at 57 because of parties doing this. I try to justify my arguments, ya know, like a civilzed person.
-"Please, it's very dangerous for the both of us to camp here. I was here first, could you possibly try to find another camp?"
"The other camps are filled, we have no choice but to camp here."
-"Would you camp on top of another party if they were here first?"
"No"
-"So why would you consider camping on top of me? I'm just like a regular party. I'm getting exp here too, and camping on top of me is twice as dangerous as camping on top of another party, because a hellmine self destruct could take us all out in one fell swoop."
"You're only one person, we have 6 people here."
-"That makes your exp more important than mine? Suddenly because you have 6 people that gives you the right to force me out of my camp, deny me of exp, because you're more important"
*party doesnt' respond and just starts exping on my pets and every other mob near me, I continue pulling hellmines and stand my ground that it is my camp, and I will not be forced out.*
That's usually how it happens, and let me just say party responses were altered to look somewhat educated, rather than the thoughtless crapass AOL/l337speak you see so often nowadays. Usually one of two things happen:
1. I end up dead while running across the basement looking for a suitable pet, at least I'm away from the party so I'm only a little pissed off that I suffered a useless death.
2. My pet dies and I turn to grab my swap pet and find the party either exping on it, or having already killed it. I keep running but my HP is falling fast, and I end up dead close or on top of the party. The hellmine aggros them and ends up exploding, and the party starts the GM calls claiming I MPK'd them.
3. The extremely uncommon sequence of events. The party actually listens to me, realizing that it is very dangerous where I am and it would be best for them to move, and they do. We both continue happily exping and noone dies.
1 and 2 are both the bullsh*t scenario's I have to put up with every time I try to exp. I'm actually afraid to go exping in garlaige now because I know there's 80% chance I'm gonna end up dead and getting screamed at, and especially devlevel and lose my AF. Yes, I know, it's only exp and I can always level back up. But AF right now is sort of my prized possesion, I already deleveled once and was unable to wear it, but I was only 800 tnl and got it back relatively quickly (I logged on at about 3am and found a camp that wasn't taken).
Now I could go behind banishing gate number 2, probably get some really good experience. Problem is in my time exping in garlaige, I've only seen a party go behind gate 2 for whatever reason once. I don't have anyone or know anyone that would be willing to come all the way out to gate 2 just to open it for me, so my options for exping are as follows:
Garlaige citadel, and dying.
Lab of onzonzo, lvling on DC-T's that take forever to kill, and there's no safe camp at all. To be safe there I'd have to keep sneak and invis up at all times, which would limit my ability to issue pet commands, and heighten downtime considerably from always casting those two spells.
So as you see, this is quite frustrating, as Lab of Onzonzo isn't an ideal exp spot at all. I've done a few duo's at Quicksand caves, and they've been somewhat lucrative, but there's rarely 2-3 BST my level on at the same time (Beastmasters are EXTREMELY rare on my server). Usually I'm not so lucky as to land one of those situations.
This has been bugging me for a long time, and I can't wait till I can hit the Tree and start getting semi-good exp again. Or maybe go to Ulegrand range, I don't know, all I know is that it has GOT to be better than Garlaige. I've been seriously considering just partying from 58-60. I usually wear party-esque gear as I lvl: Spike earrings, Venerer and Sniper rings, Darksteel axe (I shouldn't have sold my Viking's ._.), Jaeger Mantle, Royal Knights Chainmail and breeches.
The only things that I lack the people might frown upon is that I'm wearing my AF helm, gloves, and feet. From what I've seen there's really no decent helms my level that would benefit me anyway, and I have battle gloves for my hands. I could buy feet gear and get Royal Knights boots, but I'm lacking in funds right now. I have a spike necklaces instead of a mermans gorget, which if I'm pushed enough I may get and party...
It's really depressing I've been pushed to something like this...Sorry for the long post, I just felt the need to rant.
If you want, send me a /tell sometime in game and I can run you around there and you can figure out where the best location for snoll/bunnies are. They didn't change it that bad, really. 
, Anderithe, your job is hella fun XD Nothing like shankin' a mob for 120 damage ever 60 seconds.
