Nerf Treasure Hunter!!

[Sirelrohir]

I don't see why they would nerf based upon manaburn exp parties. SE already fixed it once with the elemental pets in sea (I think that's correct) so that BLM wouldn't abuse that. If they had such a problem with manaburn exp parties then, why wouldn't they have just corrected the problem outright? I think they see this more of a rewards versus effort issue with KS being the main culprit. BLM parties can pump out 30+ runs in the matter of 2-3 hours, making millions of gil each and never having left a single area or provided their own seals. People come in the hopes of gaining some gil, but most walk away empty handed after having spent time farming seals which should have been a fair shot at some decent gil.

Lavi, we've said it a million times before. Dont fault blm b/c other jobs are lazy. You dont want to do ks30 ODS then do a different ks and make more money. It really IS that simple. Blm found a way to make gil, and you want to fault them for that. Everyone says blm are cryin but the reason the nerf is happening is because everyone else was crying louder

 

[alanon]

alanon, the only reason why your uptight about this nerf is because its coming after your job. if it were for any of the other jobs, you wouldnt be as high strung. but since this is your main job, your all defensive about it.

No shit dumbass? Thank-you captain obivous!

who has complained to se about it. name some names. i guarantee you cant. some people are glad to see the arrogant ones that cant get off easy anymore.

Where the fuck have you been? Do a search on these boards and you'll find countless posts callin for a nerf. Hell just do a search for threads started be peregrin and you'll find a few. You gaurentee me I can't find any then the next sentence you tell me how some people are glad for it. Glad to see the arrogant ones nerfed eh? Sounds like someone is bitter and jealous to me.

what is it that i "apparently dont know".

show me proof of a nin burn party

 

[Sirelrohir]

why make it easy? easy isnt fun. you may as well hook up a game shark when playing online games. when i play call of duty, the people that cheat, it makes me wonder what the point of playing is if you cant do it with plain skill. why take the easy way. me personally, i like challenge if its a feasible challenge. would i attempt to do ODS with 2 nin? i would attempt it. just to challenge myself. at the lvl that nin gets nin af from DS. i could have easily raped it with pld. did i? no. i went alone on my nin and solod it. why? because i wanted to test myself. i was wanting to do sam af helm solo too. i didnt get a chance too because my nin doesnt have a buffer to survive a death. otherwise, i would have taken an attempt at it. why? same reason as before. a challenge. getting out of things on the easy path is definately a plus, but why would you want to do this constantly.
everyone wants to win. thats a given. however, what looks better...a win by a cheesy way or a win by the most challenging way possible?

who are u to say that easy isnt fun? just because u like the challenge of making gil in a ks (mainly by extending the time it takes), why do u give a fuck what other people do? Hey, guess what, I have a BLAST when i go do ks30s as a manaburn. I have a ton of fun... and guess what, I dont even charge! Quit trying to dictate what is fun for people. What is fun for you may not be fun for others.

 

[masterorion]

No shit dumbass? Thank-you captain obivous!



Where the fuck have you been? Do a search on these boards and you'll find countless posts callin for a nerf. Hell just do a search for threads started be peregrin and you'll find a few. You gaurentee me I can't find any then the next sentence you tell me how some people are glad for it. Glad to see the arrogant ones nerfed eh? Sounds like someone is bitter and jealous to me.

ok, so those people contacted SE and told them to nerf blm?

and since there are nin burns, there must be pld burns too right?
your idea of a burn and my idea of a burn must be totally different.

 

[masterorion]

who are u to say that easy isnt fun? just because u like the challenge of making gil in a ks (mainly by extending the time it takes), why do u give a fuck what other people do? Hey, guess what, I have a BLAST when i go do ks30s as a manaburn. I have a ton of fun... and guess what, I dont even charge! Quit trying to dictate what is fun for people. What is fun for you may not be fun for others.

dont be mad cuz the nerf stick is coming for u. im not mad. there isnt a reason to get pissed off. after all....guess what im gonna say......it is just a game. the world wont end if they nerf your virtual character.

you probably mean you have a blast when you win the ks30. whats fun about doing a countdown to tell everyone to cast one spell?

 

[alanon]

and since there are nin burns, there must be pld burns too right?

Where did I ever say anything about Pld burns? What does that have to do with anything? Are you just throwing random shit out there and hoping something sticks?

 

[masterorion]

well, what constitutes a nin burn?

 

[masterorion]

well, what constitutes a nin burn?

fast xp? i doubt it.

 

[Prothall]

ok, so those people contacted SE and told them to nerf blm?

and since there are nin burns, there must be pld burns too right?
your idea of a burn and my idea of a burn must be totally different.

Well, SE has to get feedback from players somehow, and boards are an easy way to do that. If they don't look on the boards i can guarantee they talk to some players SOMEWHERE because otherwise thats just the dumbest fucking company ever. So even if its not YOU in particular, there are lots of other dumbasses like you out there that SE talked to or read their posts.

 

[masterorion]

Well, SE has to get feedback from players somehow, and boards are an easy way to do that. If they don't look on the boards i can guarantee they talk to some players SOMEWHERE because otherwise thats just the dumbest fucking company ever. So even if its not YOU in particular, there are lots of other dumbasses like you out there that SE talked to or read their posts.

but, what im saying is basically to prove it. what you just said is stipulation. nothing u just said is fact. it was a half educated guess on how they get feedback. also, if you didnt halfass it and come halfway into the thread without reading, i said earlier that there is a feedback type of section that allows you to send stuff to se. but i said it earlier, and ill say it again, name some names and name how they came up with this fix. thing is, you cant. you can only guess. kthxbigtfo

 

[Sirelrohir]

dont be mad cuz the nerf stick is coming for u. im not mad. there isnt a reason to get pissed off. after all....guess what im gonna say......it is just a game. the world wont end if they nerf your virtual character.

you probably mean you have a blast when you win the ks30. whats fun about doing a countdown to tell everyone to cast one spell?

maybe i enjoy the people im doing the ks30 with? we get to do something productive yet still get to chat. And no one can say that isnt the point of the game. Everyone plays for their own reasons, and perhaps thats why me and my friends play.
Yes, it is a game. Yes I enjoy playing blm... the way it is. But, as with the rng nerf, enough people cryed about it, and now the job MAY get ruined (probably will, looking at SE's track record of 'fixing' jobs). Everyone here is crying about blm being unbalanced and giving different reasons to why it should be nerfed. The thing is, none of the reasons are valid. Not a one. Blm can do a couple of things by themselves. so what? No one forces melee to go on ks30 runs. People want to blame ks30 runs on blm, but blame it on the lazy ass melee that go. People still bitch about DM, but guess what, other jobs are still going to have to do it the same way regardless of blm nerf or not.

I have to honestly agree w/ al. this just seems like a case of petty jealousy. To nerf a whole job based on a few things is ludicrous. Nerfing rng was dumb. nerfing blm is dumb too.

 

[Prothall]

but, what im saying is basically to prove it. what you just said is stipulation. nothing u just said is fact. it was a half educated guess on how they get feedback. also, if you didnt halfass it and come halfway into the thread without reading, i said earlier that there is a feedback type of section that allows you to send stuff to se. but i said it earlier, and ill say it again, name some names and name how they came up with this fix. thing is, you cant. you can only guess. kthxbigtfo

Well, just for your information all read all 20 fucking pages of this thread while im sitting in my moghouse. Just because dont remember 1 thing in all of that dumb shit you said doesnt mean i didnt read it in the first place.

And, well I'm sure they don't just speculate about what to change in the game without thinking about how people are going to react to it. Although, maybe im wrong, SE is fucking retarded so maybe they just poke at the game like some little pyromaniac kid to see what will happen afterward.

 

[masterorion]

in no way am i jealous. i dont do bcnm anyhow. so, if people do these, its not a big deal to me. also, your mind is on the bcnm track...if you read the interview, its to un segregate the blm from making their own xp parties and getting them back into normal parties. apparently blm have a one track mind on the bcnms
me jealous over whom? definately not alanon. definately not over anyone else here either. if i want to do a bcnm i would have done them. it can be triod and i know other people that will go. but its my perogative not to do them. i can make my money other ways. the one thing i dislike are those people that brag about "i did this" "i got this amount of money" etc.

se will NOT undo what they fucked up. they will only try to counteract it. and like i said before...AGAIN. not any single person here knows how this nerf is going to be. everyone has their panties in a wod over something that hasnt happened yet. i forsee everyone that is worried about this nerf saying it isnt all that bad as it was cracked up to be. but who know, i could be wrong. but on the same token, i could be correct.

 

[Sirelrohir]

in no way am i jealous. i dont do bcnm anyhow. so, if people do these, its not a big deal to me. also, your mind is on the bcnm track...if you read the interview, its to un segregate the blm from making their own xp parties and getting them back into normal parties. apparently blm have a one track mind on the bcnms
me jealous over whom? definately not alanon. definately not over anyone else here either. if i want to do a bcnm i would have done them. it can be triod and i know other people that will go. but its my perogative not to do them. i can make my money other ways. the one thing i dislike are those people that brag about "i did this" "i got this amount of money" etc.

se will NOT undo what they fucked up. they will only try to counteract it. and like i said before...AGAIN. not any single person here knows how this nerf is going to be. everyone has their panties in a wod over something that hasnt happened yet. i forsee everyone that is worried about this nerf saying it isnt all that bad as it was cracked up to be. but who know, i could be wrong. but on the same token, i could be correct.

I adressed the bcnm track b/c thats what most people are bitching about (as u said it wasnt a challenge, etc).

As for the xp track, as has been said earlier, monk and war make alot more xp then do blm manaburns. so why pick on blm?

 

[masterorion]

Well, just for your information all read all 20 fucking pages of this thread while im sitting in my moghouse. Just because dont remember 1 thing in all of that dumb shit you said doesnt mean i didnt read it in the first place.

And, well I'm sure they don't just speculate about what to change in the game without thinking about how people are going to react to it. Although, maybe im wrong, SE is fucking retarded so maybe they just poke at the game like some little pyromaniac kid to see what will happen afterward.

touche, the two posts you have so far is totally stupid aswell. think logically. name logical reasons why they shouldnt nerf blm. other than, "it will make it harder". once you have done that to why they should. problem is, you wont name any reasons why they should.
also, like i said before, every job has had a nerf. not only that, but there will be nerfs for all of them in the future...i can guarantee it. so before all of you go off and say "why single blm out", just remember, they will end up going for the others as well. again, as i said before, i forseee smn coming next.
do i agree with nerfs? to an extent i do. it would be nice if they just left shit alone and just tweak the jobs instead of destroying them. but, its not our call.

also, i would like to mention that it isnt just the players that we come in contact with every day on here or in game, but GMs also play on their spare time. have you ever thought about them being some of the input?

 

[Bajaratt]

I adressed the bcnm track b/c thats what most people are bitching about (as u said it wasnt a challenge, etc).

As for the xp track, as has been said earlier, monk and war make alot more xp then do blm manaburns. so why pick on blm?

As has been said earlier, many times, because there's no end game strategy of "throw more monks/warriors at it." For the last time, exp is NOT the reason they're making this change. Seriously, learn to fucking read and make a plausable argument.

 

[masterorion]

I adressed the bcnm track b/c thats what most people are bitching about (as u said it wasnt a challenge, etc).

As for the xp track, as has been said earlier, monk and war make alot more xp then do blm manaburns. so why pick on blm?

why not?

 

[Bajaratt]

That's not meant directly and only to Sirelrohir, but to all of the blm's who just say that and whine for SE to nerf exp for other jobs because they're getting nerfed.

 

[Sirelrohir]

As has been said earlier, many times, because there's no end game strategy of "throw more monks/warriors at it." For the last time, exp is NOT the reason they're making this change. Seriously, learn to fucking read and make a plausable argument.

Baja, that was a reply to what MO wrote. He claims its for xp, im arguing against him. So, why dont u learn to fucking read the context of what I am saying and who I am replying to.

 

[masterorion]

Baja, that was a reply to what MO wrote. He claims its for xp, im arguing against him. So, why dont u learn to fucking read the context of what I am saying and who I am replying to.

this is taken from the dev interview

Black Mage
- they said it's too strong, especially in manaburns. they want to give BLMs more incentive to join diverse parties, but didn't give details.
- there will be new spells.