New thing the RMT are up to

Zoner said:
I'd imagine they just delete the character before the GMs even get a chance to ban it and make a new one and repeat so it wouldnt cost anything(the buck fifty USD is only for additional characters).
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Unfortunately for them, it doesn't work that way. GMs do not see character names, but account values. Make a call on one character, then log on another on the same account. The GM will still respond to you. Happened to me once while muling. And character information isn't destroyed on the server when you delete.

So, that means no matter how hard you try to cover your ass with a level 1 character, you're still going to get banned.
 
Skaw said:
Unfortunately for them, it doesn't work that way. GMs do not see character names, but account values. Make a call on one character, then log on another on the same account. The GM will still respond to you. Happened to me once while muling. And character information isn't destroyed on the server when you delete.

So, that means no matter how hard you try to cover your ass with a level 1 character, you're still going to get banned.
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Well, I'd say they see both names and account values, as in, they can see all of the chars bound to your account :P
 
Skaw said:
Unfortunately for them, it doesn't work that way. GMs do not see character names, but account values. Make a call on one character, then log on another on the same account. The GM will still respond to you. Happened to me once while muling. And character information isn't destroyed on the server when you delete.

So, that means no matter how hard you try to cover your ass with a level 1 character, you're still going to get banned.
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Thats an interesting little bit to know, learn somethin new everyday.

thanks
 
Well i just checked selbina again only to find 10+ lvl1s flee hacking to the mayor.....

One fix i can think of is increasing fame required to get the quest to max, yall have any ideas?
 
There's nothing wrong with the quest. A level 1 cannot get those clays without going through a lot of trouble. The problem is that they are hacking to get to the monument. Seems like the simple solution is to have a GM monitor the monument areas, watch for hacks, and start banning.
 
Foosk said:
There's nothing wrong with the quest. A level 1 cannot get those clays without going through a lot of trouble. The problem is that they are hacking to get to the monument. Seems like the simple solution is to have a GM monitor the monument areas, watch for hacks, and start banning.
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Same thing could be said about a lot of things though *coughTTHatUllikummicough*

However, GMs just don't have that kindof patience for most of the issues, or arrive too late to matter because they're being held up by other calls, ironically.

Alot of people think GMs know when crap like Ulli will pop though, much like how RMT somehow figure it out...in which if thats true they really don't have any excuse not to pop in 5mins before Ulli does and watch crap like TTH clusterwarp to one spot in the room. =\ If they can't catch that obvious crap odds are they won't get ahold of the Monument warpers for a long, long time, especially since they RMT only needto be at the spot for all of half a second to hit a trade macro and warp off. (assuming they do it as fluidly as they can, anyhow. Who knows, they might have some idiots who blip to the spot and take 3mins to trade before zipping off *shrug*)
 
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RMT never stop to amaze me... I imagine them like little mice running in a wheel all day to make gils.

Seriously the GMs have to do something about this, It cannot be so hard to catch them this time...
 
Well after working with [GM]Sunaj for about and hour and a half we managed to ban 30+ RMT(no joke) and atleast 2 banks charaters and selbina is quite for the moment.
 
Zoner said:
Well after working with [GM]Sunaj for about and hour and a half we managed to ban 30+ RMT(no joke) and atleast 2 banks charaters and selbina is quite for the moment.
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Omg more details please :) Got any screenshots?
 
Arctus said:
Omg more details please :) Got any screenshots?
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No screen shots as i'm a PS2 user. Basically i called the RMTs names out to him as they came to the mayor in flocks, gave him names that were there earlier that i wrote down(which wasnt easy considering they have names like Aliecadkulyjklt) and help track them to the bank characters, one which they did a direct trade and a second which bazaared wooden arrows priced at 20,010G which the rmt bought to deposit the gil.
 
The idea itself is quite genius, since they're not getting the gil from people but rather the quest itself. Very smart, if they weren't hacking back and forth and selling it to people. Uzor I believe pointed out that this could possibly "end the ice age of gil" because of price increases. That just proves how RMT control the servers economy more than the legitimate players do. Looks like the GM's are gonna be swinging their banhammers alot in the next couple weeks.
 
y'all finally thinking of quests like that? didn't y'all think about doing stuff like this when 10k was a lotta money and you'd just do those 5k gil quests over and over like someone already mentioned. Now that 5k isn't a lotta money you really don't think about it as much. But when i first did things like warp quest and etc... I thought.. hmmm.. i can just do this over and over and over and 'no one' would know. Remember... ppl were doing Guardian Crawler quest for money back in the day so some ppl were 'getting there' to that kind of thinking.
 
the fact that RMT's are resorting to this type of measure to get gil has a positive light. this is further proof that SE's custom methods were having a productive effect at hindering their opperations.

big ups for SE and tripple ups for Zoner for making a difference.
 
Props to Zoner~!
 
They are still doing it today.

My girlfriend went to selbina to complete a step of the clay quest and we saw a lot of them pos hacking out of the mayor's house to the zone. They then zone tovalkurm, take a right to the beach and pos hack to latheine's zone... all the way to wherever they need to go. We found their bank character too in selbina.

Thing is, we couldnt send a GM ticket because we had to logout. However, she noted 24 RMT names that we saw pos hack... I hope we can send them to the GMs later when we can stay on longer (59 GM calls before ours :/)
 
Someone in my social noticed over a dozen RMT instantly appearing in front of the stone monument in Batallia Downs while he was doing Sandy 9-1. He said he placed a GM call, dunno what the outcome was.
 
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