Next update on EXP

oh yeah thats right you smoke pot and have 4 jobs 75 you win :roll:

You my friend are the piece of shit.
 
Thats fine, if that's your opinion. What I was arguing is that you were making it out to be apocalyptic and how 75 won't mean anything and the world servers will come crashing down. I called BS on that and now we've got 6-odd pages of trashtalking about it. I never meant this to be a flame war, I thought you were being arrogant is all. And you still are. Confused
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I never said it would be the end of the world. I said I disagree with it. Why don't you read over my posts for these... 26 pages... kind of a hard task at this point. But you came here with the 100% wrong impression of my opinion.

And I don't mean to make you look bad. But RoMaeve is not sky. RoMaeve is on the way to sky but you don't need a pass to go there. I'm trying hard not to rub this in...
 
I am fairly sure I partied with you, and if I recall it was the party that a dragoon made level 75... or was really close to it and didn't make it... I
think it was Kira. It was in RoMaeve.If this wasn't you, oops.

And that's right, I baited you, and I tried to prove one point. The point that you are talking about something and trying to add to them the effect of "I've been there, I know." The point is... BULLSHIT. You don't know. You are a TAG-A-LONG. Before you go claiming to have experience all the end game has to offer and saying you are eternally satisfied with it, why don't you pull your head out of your ass for a second and listen to all the other 75s who have spent months actually fighting HNMs instead of pretending to be one?


And I will answer your question. The answer is nothing.I don't have any problems with "next gen" level 75ers. Half of my friendlist is full of level 75s who didn't even play the game when me and you were 75. I don't particulary give a shit if end game is crowded or not as I'm done with that scene anyway.
But I'll repeat myself, because you seem to be hard of hearing(yes I know it's the internet)...
I don't know how much exp will be changed. I am not making any apocolypic conditions. I am merely saying, if you ask me, it's a bad idea.

I say it's a bad idea, you ask why. I tell you why. You argue against the reason. I explain my reason. Yada yada, this whole thing gets blown way the hell out of proportion. Just because you can't convince me to change my mind, does not mean I feel terribly strongly about this whole thing. What's pisses me off, is people like you making stupid arguments. It's pissing me off way more than any exp change. So juist accept the fact that I don't agree with it and get on with your life.

And Konartist, stop attaching yourself like a leech to every person who makes an argument against me. We hate each other. You're a piece of shit. We get it. Move on with your life.
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It's sad the day one must quote himself from a few posts up on the very same page to prove what was said.

And I was just teasing you, alright?
 
Mistaya's Reading Comprehension levels falls to 71.

go away now.

You claim i did something I didn't do, and when I called you on it you made me look like an idiot. I still didn't exp with you no matter where the hell it was, and frankly I was in sky at least a week before you so stfu.

I will now go edit all my posts to say "I'm stupid Fire is right."
 
Hit 65. One more level closer to getting 75 before this damn patch kicks in lol I can do it. I want to do it right :twisted:
 
Mistaya said:
[Since its impossible to show emotion on the internet, I'm speaking this next part calmly and in a friendly manner, as it is not meant to be a flame but if you read it with the same intensity as the above it will sound like one.]

Elemmire, why do you deserve compensation for exp 'wasted'? When the level cap was raised to 55 no one got compensation. When the level cap was raised to 60 no one got compensation. When the levelcap was raised to 70 no one got compensation. When the levelcap was raised to 75 (After NA release) NO ONE got compensation. When merit points were introduced guess who got compensation? If you said No One you are correct!

Do I agree with it? I don't really care. I'm pointing out this is how Square has always updated the game and always will so your going to have to deal with it regardless of what anyone's feelings are on the matter.
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explain to me how raising the level cap to something higher and that no one has spent time getting to yet means they should be compensated? This is completely DIFFERENT!! They are changing something that thousands upon thousand spent lots of time and money working to achieve with the current system of exping. If people exped at the old level caps after it was maxed out..than..they were making the choice themselves!!!!! This is not S-E making a new limit to the game. This is them changing the current limit to something easier!!! The people that already spent time aquiring exp is about to be deleted completely and lost forever. SE is deleting hard work and not giving anything back. Frankly, it's unfair BS. And why should you care if you don't play this game anymore and it doesn't effect you in anyway? If I started playing WoW I would stop caring about FFXI. There'd still be people on FFXI I'd care about...but the game I wouldn't give a damn about if I left.

Edit: oh..and..Konartist...before this thread I had no hate for you but you really don't contribute to any arguement. shut the FUCK up and stop acting like Cohibu and posting useless crap that doesn't contribute to any arguement. You really are doing one thing in this thread... PROVING FIRESTREAK RIGHT ABOUT YOU!!!!
 
damn you Kira T.T you and your...rightness >.> ruining our fun
 
Elemmire said:
And why should you care if you don't play this game anymore and it doesn't effect you in anyway? If I started playing WoW I would stop caring about FFXI. There'd still be people on FFXI I'd care about...but the game I wouldn't give a damn about if I left.
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I'll step in and answer that one, she technically still plays occationally, she just isn't on Quez at this time(long story don't ask). Plus SE seems to be making adjustments to their game to entice players like Mistaya and I to come back and play again. We are sorting out red tape at this time.

We are finished with WoW and looking for the next game, unfortunately there isn't anything so our thoughts turned to FFXI :p
 
Oh, just to answer the question
Elemmire - No one got compensatio when cap was raised (i.e. 50->55); what is meant by that, is that when that was the cap and people got spare exp, it went down the crapper, and when the cap was raised, they got no compensation~

And good god this thread is long..
 
No when the cap was raised, no exp was lost. Over time, however, through updates it's easier to get exp. Additions like sneak, invis, teleports and new and useful gear from NMs and crafting has made leveling a breeze comparitively up to level 50. The same thing has happened since NA release. New additions have made the standard of exp/hour go up, and more people have made leveling easier. This is why I feel the actual direct change to exp/level is just not really needed. It gets easier every patch when they add a new piece of armor and a new leveling spot, just as a side affect of adding more content. What is the reason really for just directly reducing exp costs when as Liefe said the content is where we're lacking.

To try and just end this debate, I'll put forth one notion I think we can mostly agree on. Regardless of if it's "right" or not, which is merely as I think my and Cubwoo's debate proved, is simply a question of different values, the reason they are doing it is simple.
1: There ares still more people who will feel "helped" by this change(regardless of the argument I make that it's not really helping, by my values) than there are people who are going to feel cheated. There are simply more under level 75ers than 75ers.
2. If people level 50 get frusterated they might quiit(nobody on this board really, but 'boo hoo' to the people you know this is intended for).
3. 75ers like me are going to be pissed off. But the odds are we won't quit unless we were on our way out anyway.

I still think it makes for worse gameplay. And I think long run, making game easier = bad thing... but we've all said our points. What's done is done. All that's left is to wait and see.
 
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The ontopic part :p

The reason we left for WoW was because the endgame of FFXI was flat, just like how people have been posting. A lot of our friends were quitting too, most of mine from the day 1 of the NAPC release already quit, a handful of players were left. We left to do something else for 6 months, and saw that SE is putting some effort into making the game more fun. We just lucked out that WoW's endgame is even shittier then FFXI's, I suspect we may see even more players coming back like the best ranger in the game... sup Alteredstate :p

I think the xp cap reduction is awesome, more players will have the chance to see more of the endgame and wonder at the sights of Tu'lia. It shows me as someone who quit playing a while back see that SE wants to put some effort into making the game fun again. It makes me sad remembering a number of friends hitting the 50s and just giving up because of the amount of work(building parties, LFG that sort of thing not actual XPing) to put into their character to advance.
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Before anyone lowers themself to the level of a high school bully on my behalf, I skipped the flame part of GIMS's post, and was applauding to THIS. *Points up* See, the relavent portion. I could care less about a stupid little flame war between two people I don't know, but I totally agreed with him in welcoming the change, so people CAN HAVE MORE FUN IN FFXI. Which is something I've noticed a LOT of players seem to have forgotten lately.
 
Ok no matter who is right or wrong I do have to say this. All of you idiots saying there will be more noobs in sky and 70+ are morons. If anything I have noticed while leveling my second job is that the new up and comer players are far more polished and skilled then alot of us Higher levels were. So if anything I think this is going to put more skilled players on the HNM scene and the sky scene.

Sure maybe they had all of the older 75's to learn from but its a simple fact that 80% of these newer players are very polished and very skilled. I think that this change will be very refreshing if it does in fact make it easier to level. I for one would love to hunt HNMs with people like cubs,vang,narell,sabia,sneakypants and all those are mid levelers who are very knowledgeable and very good over all players.

(oh and Elle anyone who uses the words STFU shouldnt be allowed to post) :roll: :roll:
 
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