Next update on EXP

Dowzer said:
I haven't posted in this thread yet.......and I'll be damned to read the 28 pages that have been posted.

So Im just going to spank my opinion on here anyway, it's quite simple.



For those who are above level 51, the experience points that they LOSE as a result of this update....Should be rewarded back to you.

If you are lv75 at this update, the experience should be rewarded back to you. When that reward caps at the end of experience, LIMIT points should be rewarded as a result.


That is all, kthxbai.
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I <3 you ^^ that's the only thing I want with the coming change ^^
 
Corrosion said:
As I said before, I support this idea. BUT I think that everyone who got Lvl 75 before this update should have a little * next to their name. The star meaning "Attainted Lvl 75 before the XP change". I know it doesn't make up for all the hard work lost, but it would atleast make you stand out from the crowd of the other 75's on the way.

Just a thought... :roll:
Don't eat me please... :shock:
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That thought actually struck me this morning. Then I thought, "wouldn't it be cool if they could leave a player the option to take the long road and earn that distinction, or take the short road and not earn it." In other words, let the player choose if he/she wants to level under the old exp requirements. If they do, great. They earn their star too, and they don't have a bunch of jerks looking down on them for "doing less work."

I would totally take the long way. As I've stated before, I certainly didn't ask for this update. I would've been perfectly happy to get to 75 the same way that everyone else has.

But then history hit me over the head, and I remembered what segregations like that lead to.
 
Elemmire said:
I <3 you ^^ that's the only thing I want with the coming change ^^
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We know, you've already said that on prety much every one of the 29 pages of this thread... but chances of that happening are a million to one against, so let's move on with life, shal we?

As I already said, you don't even know what you're losing with this update. So can we give it a rest at least until tomorrow... and then if it really is the end of your world maybe we can post a complaint somewhere that might matter, instead of an indipendant server board. I'll even put my name on your petition. But seriously, give it a rest.
 
funny...I've only been posting for about 6 pages and only about a page worth of posts. Problem I kept having is that people seem to not care about the loss that we are about to take...
 
you are not taking a loss if you were @1 tnl you will still be @1tnl, just instead of maybe 44,000 it will be 40,000. And if your post is to whine about 4k exp....then I feel bad for you.
 
Sephectja said:
I want to complain to SE about the fact that they now sell FFXI cheaper than when I bought it.

Just live with it and stop complaining >.>
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I don't blame you for not reading the whole thread, but you were beaten, like, 7 pages ago. By me.

Which only proves how full-circle this thread has come.

8)
 
Konartist said:
you are not taking a loss if you were @1 tnl you will still be @1tnl, just instead of maybe 44,000 it will be 40,000. And if your post is to whine about 4k exp....then I feel bad for you.
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See, you're just seeing 75. You aren't seeing the exp lost on all the levels 74 down to 51. Sure, we don't know how much will be decreased, but if it's any significant value, say, 1k off each level average(And if it's any less, then what the hells the point of doing this?), thats 24k. Thats half of another level, two and a half Merit Points, in experience disappearing from the totals of those already where we are.

And this isn't including experience that would be considered post cap after the change, that people worked to rebuild after taking a death. That just increases what work has been lost, since that experience could have gone to merits under the new values.

Sure, you can claim we're whining at the experience lost on One level, but it's not just one. It's affecting 25 of them. You have to look at the big, BIG, picture, and not just do it by numerics, and then you'll understand why so many of us do not like this update. And if you still don't understand, just drop out of this thread and not post anymore.
 
Skaw said:
Konartist said:
you are not taking a loss if you were @1 tnl you will still be @1tnl, just instead of maybe 44,000 it will be 40,000. And if your post is to whine about 4k exp....then I feel bad for you.
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See, you're just seeing 75. You aren't seeing the exp lost on all the levels 74 down to 51. Sure, we don't know how much will be decreased, but if it's any significant value, say, 1k off each level average(And if it's any less, then what the hells the point of doing this?), thats 24k. Thats half of another level, two and a half Merit Points, in experience disappearing from the totals of those already where we are.

And this isn't including experience that would be considered post cap after the change, that people worked to rebuild after taking a death. That just increases what work has been lost, since that experience could have gone to merits under the new values.

Sure, you can claim we're whining at the experience lost on One level, but it's not just one. It's affecting 25 of them. You have to look at the big, BIG, picture, and not just do it by numerics, and then you'll understand why so many of us do not like this update. And if you still don't understand, just drop out of this thread and not post anymore.
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Yes and it effects 22 of my levels on ranger alone and another 12 more on rdm and thf so thats 34 levels it effects me. So in your example thats 34k exp they owe me which means therotically this change would harm me more than it would you, yet I still see no reason to complain. Its just a new system coming in and one thats for the best I believe.

Some people just look for a reason to complain. If anyone feels that SE is giving them the cold hard "shaft" so to speak, by this EXP reduction then give SE the shaft right back and delete your account and stop paying them the 12.95/month + mules.

Just suck it up, move on and get over it, thats all you can really do.



*disclaimer* no flaming or asshatery was meant in the above post.
 
CubsWoo said:
Sephectja said:
I want to complain to SE about the fact that they now sell FFXI cheaper than when I bought it.

Just live with it and stop complaining >.>
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I don't blame you for not reading the whole thread, but you were beaten, like, 7 pages ago. By me.

Which only proves how full-circle this thread has come.

8)
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Im just glad we dont have 8 million different threads about it
 
1) My Predictions are it will be more than 10% total. Even if it's only 10% -2k at the earlier 20k/levels, I have a feeling when you're staring at 30k+ you're going to be talking about at least 5k loss/level. This is 16%.

2) As Liefe said earlier, if it's a little or a lot, it doesn't matter. It's not needed. More content is needed... more perks are needed... end game and mid game. Why even bother making the argument "it won't be much"... if it's not what you consider a lot, why bother arguing for it?

3) And the question I have asked repeatedly and has been ignored repeatedly, if the exp lost was just shaved directly off the top, lowering the max level, and lowering all "perks" of max level at the same time(e.g., we go down 3 levels, Genbu goes down 3 levels, Rank NMs go down 3 levels)... would you be happy at this change?
 
Firestreak said:
1) My Predictions are it will be more than 10% total. Even if it's only 10% -2k at the earlier 20k/levels, I have a feeling when you're staring at 30k+ you're going to be talking about at least 5k loss/level. This is 16%.
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I think it's going to be scaled. As in, maybe only 500 off from 51-52, but 3 or 4k at 70+ so overall it'll be ~10-13%.

2) As Liefe said earlier, if it's a little or a lot, it doesn't matter. It's not needed. More content is needed... more perks are needed... end game and mid game. Why even bother making the argument "it won't be much"... if it's not what you consider a lot, why bother arguing for it?
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Square has said repeatedly they're getting set to offer new content. If nothing else, those new zones sure look like additional Al'cohol areas. Pretty little disco balls.

3) And the question I have asked repeatedly and has been ignored repeatedly, if the exp lost was just shaved directly off the top, lowering the max level, and lowering all "perks" of max level at the same time(e.g., we go down 3 levels, Genbu goes down 3 levels, Rank NMs go down 3 levels)... would you be happy at this change?
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Yes. Why not? Max level is max level is max level. If I were Japanese, I'd have been happy when I hit the 'max level' of 50. Then 55. Then 60, and so on. To take from what you've said, you can make the max level 10 or 100 or 500 or eleventy billion zillion and I, personally, no matter what the requirements are for reaching it become, will take pride in my characters reaching that goal and wear that level happily. I'm not going away anytime soon. I told myself when I bought the game that anything less than obtaining max level in at least one or two jobs before quitting was required. Anything less is failure in my eyes.

Am I glad I'm gonna need less XP to get there? Sure, bully for me, hoo-rah. Does it change my goals? No. They could have raised the level cap or made it take more XP to get to 75 and I'd just keep logging in and take it in stride.
 
They have my money anyway, it'd take a lot to get me to quit with so much invested in the game.
 
not you. You're cool. I was talking to the guy who thinks im a pig fucker.

^^
 
When 75's get compensation for game changes, new players will get 600k vouchers for auction house purchases of Leaping Boots, and will be able to selectively sell things to NPCs for profit. You know, to make it fair.

Looks like if your tnl was 10,000 it'll now be 8000. That's big. Thanks, square.
 
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