Ninja Katana Question

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Okay so I was out camping Orctrap the other as I was level 33 (went from 27-33 one pt so didn't have time before) and I was very heavily distracted by my company (not that I mind, talking > solo time) and so when I got to Orctrap, it was claimed. (Congratulations to Duffman for not only claim, but Nikkariaoe dropping) Well I had spent almost three hours and my patience was gone so I just bought one.

So now I have a Nikkariaoe (19DMG 232 Delay Spell Interrupt rate down 25%) and a Kodachi+1 (20DMG 222 Delay).

Common sens says Kodachi takes main hand, but I am still new to dual wield especially, will Nikkariaoe work offhand, or main hand only? I'm about to LFP so any help on this would be greatly appreciated.
 
it works. only offhand that doesnt are the martial weapons.
 
Main hand it, the DoT will be the same whether you chose to main hand or off hand the weapon, but the weapon skill is determined by the damage of the main handed weapon, so the best choice is to always have highest base damage weapon in main. The only possible exceptions to this rule are weapons with latent or hidden effects and martial weapons, but not always.
 
I'd say just use two Kodachi or something, I think I avoided interruption maybe once while using my Nikkariaoe for about four or five hours. Not worth the gil.
 
Tagrineth said:
I'd say just use two Kodachi or something, I think I avoided interruption maybe once while using my Nikkariaoe for about four or five hours. Not worth the gil.
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Then you were trying to cast all wrong. Say you can get a spell off if you aren't hit between 10% and 80% on the cast time. Spell interruption shrinks that window down, much like fast cast. Nikka makes a huge difference getting ichi back up when you're not evading.
 
Stouter said:
Then you were trying to cast all wrong. Say you can get a spell off if you aren't hit between 10% and 80% on the cast time. Spell interruption shrinks that window down, much like fast cast. Nikka makes a huge difference getting ichi back up when you're not evading.
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Agreed. When I bored the Nikka from Stouts when I was finishing up NIN as SJ it made a huge difference.
 
Couldn't you macro in Nikka with Utsu casts? then switch to a more damaging weapon for off hand? Or do you loose tp when you switch offhands?
 
Stouter said:
Then you were trying to cast all wrong. Say you can get a spell off if you aren't hit between 10% and 80% on the cast time. Spell interruption shrinks that window down, much like fast cast. Nikka makes a huge difference getting ichi back up when you're not evading.
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First of all, thanks for assuming I don't know to cast between attacks.

No, really, thanks for that. I wasn't aware at all.


Second, are you sure that's what spell interruption -% does? I've never found conclusive information on how it works.
 
I used it for one pt.
It's back on the AH now.

Sorry but when you have ZERO times casting uninterrupted when getting hit (freaking hate double attacking mobs... grr Dhalmel) it is not worth 600k.
 
i love that katana, what stout say is true it will not work all the time specialty aginst mandys. Which do fast double attack/ counter moves. Use it agianst mobs like beetles and bats you will notice a diffence.
 
hellstorm said:
i love that katana, what stout say is true it will not work all the time specialty aginst mandys. Which do fast double attack/ counter moves. Use it agianst mobs like beetles and bats you will notice a diffence.
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Or you could not suck and use a stronger katana without relying on a weak crutch. =)
 
Tag, no Ninja in the game went from 30-37 without getting hit even once unless they sucked too bad to keep hate and just did DD instead. It happens, mob double attack, have TP at inopportune times, and suddenly get acc+100 when trying to shadow up.
 
Tagrineth said:
Or you could not suck and use a stronger katana without relying on a weak crutch. =)
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ha well lets see now

FukuroAuction House: Weapons - Katana
Weapon Skill: Katana
Damage: 15 Delay: 190
Slot: Weapon
STR: 1 AGI: 1 Jobs: NinjaRaces: ALLLevel to Use: 28

~85k

NikkariaoeRare
Weapon Skill: Katana
Damage: 19 Delay: 232
Slot: Weapon
Spell Interruption Rate: -25%Jobs: NinjaRaces: ALLLevel to Use: 30

~500k

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Kodachi +1Type: Kogatana
Weapon Skill: Katana
Damage: 20 Delay: 222
Slot: Weapon
Jobs: NinjaRaces: ALLLevel to Use: 32

~180K


you are complaing about 1 dmg and 10 less delay. For that 1 dmg and 10 less delay you get -25 interrupt rate which shows improvement in spells. That not even including that the nikko is 2 lvl earlier and the only other 2 katanas that come near to it pre 30 is the fudo and busuto+1. So crutch nothing it just a better choice. Plus i didnt buy mine, I camp orc trap to get it.
 
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Tagrineth said:
First of all, thanks for assuming I don't know to cast between attacks.

No, really, thanks for that. I wasn't aware at all.


Second, are you sure that's what spell interruption -% does? I've never found conclusive information on how it works.
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Yeah that's nice except that some mobs attack speed is so fast that if you get hit by two of their rounds in a row and try to cast in between those rounds, you won't get ichi off. In fact, most mobs with hojo ichi or slow alone attack that fast. And yes, I used it from 30-Yoto+1's, and it does do exactly what I described.
 
Sarion said:
Tag, no Ninja in the game went from 30-37 without getting hit even once unless they sucked too bad to keep hate and just did DD instead. It happens, mob double attack, have TP at inopportune times, and suddenly get acc+100 when trying to shadow up.
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I know. I never said they did. Thanks for putting words in my mouth.

I never once avoided an interrupt when getting hit with nikkariaoe on, and I really didn't notice that thing about having a wider "no-interrupt range" on the edges of the cast either... and this was from 30-32 when it is actually a strong katana. At 32 though it's worthless. Two Reppu+1 for me. 1 damage and 10 delay is a lot for a ninja at that level =/
 
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