Obama Hoax

Mirewen said:
The world is not all like America, most other countries know about what's going on around us, we don't have tunnel vision.



Can I just say "Wow" oh and "Wtf". I did. You posted a link and made reference to Obama wasting time, golfing after Bush said he gave it up. That reference, that has no relevance to the OP, shows that you have disdain for Obama. Not only did golfing have nothing to do with the OP, Bush didn't either. This was about Obama being slandered under a false accusation. What does that have to do with golfing? Bush? Nothing. You feld the need to slander Obama by putting an unrelated article in it. Obama being accused of "dissing" the constitution is relatable to playing golf how?

I'm starting to think you've got a few bats in your belfry if you think there is anything logical to what you're arguing.
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It does, however, relate to Obama. I didn't feel the need to create a separate thread over the news article. So I posted it here.

(As for Obama dissing the Constitution; He's already taken a massive dump all over it as president.)

There you go again; questioning the logic of my argument whilst failing logic yourself.

Let me sum this up for you:
I posted an article about Obama wasting time, commenting about how I'm not pleased with his priorities.
You defend him, saying Bush wasted plenty of time too.
I say Obama still has played more rounds of golf in 10 months than Bush did in 2-3 years. Also commented on how we're in the middle of two (Illegal) wars.
You mention more Bush time wasting.
I list more Obama time wasting.
You start making retarded arguments about the article being unrelated, and I'm somehow out to hate the president.
I explain, much Like I'm doing now, about posting the article.
You continue to shove your head up your ass while claiming it's unrelated, Obama isn't wasting time, Golf is related to OP, Bush isn't related to OP, etc.

Your inability to comprehend this is mind-blowing, to say the least.
 
What does a presidents sporting activities have to do with how they run the country while in office is what I'm wondering. How does Obama playing more golf than Bush, or Bush having given it up, make a difference? Even the president deserves some R&R, thats why they have cabinet members, aides, assistants, etc etc to help run things. Seriously, drop this stupid argument and focus at the task at hand, that its been a slow news weekend and this is all the media could come up with.
 
Cort said:
It does, however, relate to Obama. I didn't feel the need to create a separate thread over the news article. So I posted it here.

(As for Obama dissing the Constitution; He's already taken a massive dump all over it as president.)

There you go again; questioning the logic of my argument whilst failing logic yourself.

Let me sum this up for you:
I posted an article about Obama wasting time, commenting about how I'm not pleased with his priorities.
You defend him, saying Bush wasted plenty of time too.
I say Obama still has played more rounds of golf in 10 months than Bush did in 2-3 years. Also commented on how we're in the middle of two (Illegal) wars.
You mention more Bush time wasting.
I list more Obama time wasting.
You start making retarded arguments about the article being unrelated, and I'm somehow out to hate the president.
I explain, much Like I'm doing now, about posting the article.
You continue to shove your head up your ass while claiming it's unrelated, Obama isn't wasting time, Golf is related to OP, Bush isn't related to OP, etc.

Your inability to comprehend this is mind-blowing, to say the least.
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More "No you!" I don't expect any less. You're trying so hard to relate the un-relatable.

Here's how I see it;

OP > about Rush slamming Obama for something that he never said and not apologizing.
You > post an unrelated article about golf and how much Obama plays it relating it to how Bush said he gave it up.
Me > sarcasm about how important lack of golf play is to presidency and how even though Bush didn’t play golf, he had plenty of other hobbies.
You > saying Obama played more golf in 10 months than Bush did in 2-3 years.
Me > me again saying that Bush had other hobbies to occupy his time with.
You > saying “Obama is fucking up” (oh look another place you show your disdain for Obama) and saying I hate Bush (when in fact, I never said anything of the sort).
Me > Saying I never said I hated Bush but rather was trying to see how any of this had any relation to Rush slamming Obama.
You > NO YOU. *insult* *insult* hypocrite comprehension blah blah.
Me > trying to get you to explain how any of this is valid
You > NO YOU!!

That about sums it up. I’m done with this completely redundant back and forth with you, like I said, brick wall.

Hexx said:
What does a presidents sporting activities have to do with how they run the country while in office is what I'm wondering. How does Obama playing more golf than Bush, or Bush having given it up, make a difference? Even the president deserves some R&R, thats why they have cabinet members, aides, assistants, etc etc to help run things. Seriously, drop this stupid argument and focus at the task at hand, that its been a slow news weekend and this is all the media could come up with.
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Exactly.
 
Hexx said:
What does a presidents sporting activities have to do with how they run the country while in office is what I'm wondering. How does Obama playing more golf than Bush, or Bush having given it up, make a difference? Even the president deserves some R&R, thats why they have cabinet members, aides, assistants, etc etc to help run things. Seriously, drop this stupid argument and focus at the task at hand, that its been a slow news weekend and this is all the media could come up with.
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Perhaps it is a slow weekend, but with all the serious issues at his plate I'd rather see my President working on resolving them.

What neither of you are seeming to understand is that Bush's outings are being used by the article's writer as a measuring stick to what Obama is doing in a similar time period.

Obama is the Commander-in-Chief of our armed forces, and he's currently against the grain of his Chiefs of Staff. What he says, goes. And nothing is going to be done until he says so - something difficult to do when you're playing golf, etc.

He can play golf until he's blue in the face, this is a semi-free country, but I'd still prefer he take care of the issues at hand.
 
Cort said:
Perhaps it is a slow weekend, but with all the serious issues at his plate I'd rather see my President working on resolving them.

What neither of you are seeming to understand is that Bush's outings are being used by the article's writer as a measuring stick to what Obama is doing in a similar time period.

Obama is the Commander-in-Chief of our armed forces, and he's currently against the grain of his Chiefs of Staff. What he says, goes. And nothing is going to be done until he says so - something difficult to do when you're playing golf, etc.

He can play golf until he's blue in the face, this is a semi-free country, but I'd still prefer he take care of the issues at hand.
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OK, I'm not taking sides here as far as Bush and Obama. Yes, I dislike Bush very much, but at the same time, a president doesnt HAVE to be at his desk 24/7 to resolve issues at hand. Keep in mind thats why we have a checks and balances system in our government. What do you expect a guy to do, sit there and twiddle his thumbs while he waits for congress to do their thing? Let the guy have some R&R he deserves it, after all, he has a mighty fine pile of shit on his plate that he needs to take care of.
 
In 10 months he's played more golf than the previous guy did in 3 *years*. Good grief. With how much Obama promised, and has done in relation, i'd be surprised if he's done anything but play golf and spend time on TV interviews.

He can take his damn R&R when he's dealt with anything on his giant plate of shit.
 
Congress has nothing more to do. They can declare war, but the President is the CinC.

(Note: I dislike both Bush and Obama, so there's certainly no side taking here.)
 
If golfing is his hobby then sure it would add up like that. People just finding dumb reasons to hate the guy.
 
Mostly I don't like him because, well, he's a politician.
 
Mirewen said:
THIS JUST IN, PLAYING GOLF MAKES YOU A BAD PRESIDENT!

Seriously? Bush may have 'given up golf' but he did plenty of other things in his 'spare time'.
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Like almost being assassinated by pretzels and learning how to dodge shoes.
 
aparently golf is serious fuckin business that can judge how good or bad of a president you are
 
Tok said:
aparently golf is serious fuckin business that can judge how good or bad of a president you are
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Maybe if he actually did something people would be able to make more informed decisions on him as a president and wouldn't have to make the decisions based on how much time he spends in front of a camera or next to a tee.

I'll admit i fell for his whole "Change We Can Believe In" bull and i voted for him, but people keeping these complacent/apathetic attitudes are the reason america is going down the toilet, and will probably be dragging most of the 1st world along with it.

But at least people will like america again, right?
 
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Makelith said:
But at least people will like america again, right?
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Whats changing that... as far as i can tell its still

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Cort said:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/10/27/afghan.deaths/

8 U.S. troops have died today.

Now I'm attacking Obama.
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calling out the day to day death tolls in iraq/afghanistan and holding it over the presidents head was utter bullshit when the liberals were doing it to bush and its still utter bullshit to do it to obama today. there are plenty of better reasons to call out obama then 8 soldiers dieing in Afghanistan yesterday. what next? you gonna ask obama if he'd send his kids to die in Afghanistan?
 
Thelona said:
calling out the day to day death tolls in iraq/afghanistan and holding it over the presidents head was utter bullshit when the liberals were doing it to bush and its still utter bullshit to do it to obama today. there are plenty of better reasons to call out obama then 8 soldiers dieing in Afghanistan yesterday. what next? you gonna ask obama if he'd send his kids to die in Afghanistan?
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It wouldn't 'hold it over his head' if he wasn't sitting on his ass over the issue.

His indecision is costing brave men and women, who volunteered for the armed services, their lives.

I'm going to continue 'holding it over his head' so long as we are in two illegal conflicts, and have soldiers is 140+ countries.
 
Every Afgan death from the moment he took office is his fault. In Sept he TOLD THE WORLD our military plan. They had a year to set up and plan. Sorry, but that makes the man an accomplice.

Ok most new is liberal, most talk radio is Convervative.
What has Obama done....mind you this is my score card. I do not like him because from the day I heard him all he spoke of was lies.

Obama told the Dem what he wanted in the bill and told them to write it. He gave a time table of THREE weeks for it to be done in. Did not write it, did not touch it at all. Said do this and pass it by august break.

He has appointed more than 30 Czars. More than any president. Given them authority equal to the Secretary of the same job, but no over sight. Many of whom have questionable motives, or beliefs. Such as placing a value for how much care you will be given based on age. Or the green Czar who was busted by youtube posts saying to steal from the white people and give to the minorities. I think people were not understanding which green he really represented.

Pushed a stimulus package with over 7000 earmarks after stating it would contain NONE. Two thirds of that package was nothing but earmarks. After 10 years that same package will have cost the US taxpayers 9 trillion. Got to love intrest.

He has taken over multiple companies and ripped off the share owners. Force Bank of America to take a toxic company, then denies doing it. Mind you if you watched the news <CNN with barney frank sayng idk where the money went> you would know this. While running for president pushed the banking bail out when 80% of the US said DO NOT DO IT, but as he said thats just multitasking. Mind you it had no safe gaurds, so about half was lost and not found. Almost forgot the newest thing in which he is for granting governemt workers and union members a pass on paying the tax for this health care bill. Oh and how his thing where no one in his group can have been a lobbies for X amount of years of a comapny getting gov. contracts...Guess who runs the pentagon....and which company he had lobbied for.... This was on CNN in Janurary. lol Don't forget the tax evaders he kept trying to place as secretary of finance...Yes the guy there was also busted for not paying taxes.

Oh his presidental campaign was based off Bush, not Mccain. You might have noticed how even during the debates Mccain had to point out Obama is not running against Bush. Lets see....made happy and oh so sorry the US DEFENDED HELPLESS PEOPLE while you were killing them to dictators. Mass printing money so it devalues the US dollar so it will become toilet paper. Planning massive CUTS to the programs that care for our elderly. Oh it will come from the money we will save from stopping the waste....Well why not cut the waste out and put the money to getting medicare out of the red. BTW the WHOLE bill was done without any outside doctors input. So the people who could tell you what changes would lower costs...were...not...consulted. The bill in its current form will only cover three years worth of spending. There are no plans to proide defiect neutral spending after those 3 years. It will take SEVEN years of saving just to cover the three that it will function for. Do the math, we can not afford it.

At the current spending rate, every US citizen will be required in order to pay off the complete NATIONAL DEBT....to pay over 300 MILLION in taxes. Yes honey thats PER PERSON to pay off ALL the US debt. Now if you are talking to pay off just the current spending, well that will be only 250 thousand per person. Once again got to love intrest. The US is looking a lot like the banks that were "too big" to be allowed to fail. You might have noticed some of those still failed.

On the war....hand picked General, his own chiefs of staff, Nato all say the samething....and he says....well I will get back to you sometime....in the next few weeks after I think about it. There is and has been no course of action there since we entered there with Bush. And Cort...President can go to war for 3 months. Congress has to approve for it to go on. So they are just as much at fault. Obama told everyone he had a plan, oh yes he has a plan, but really did not. Well if his plan was to kill more Americans by being a scared little boy....well it is happening. Indesicion is a sign of weakness in a leader. Dems and repubs are acting like 4 year olds who need a spanking. Fl rep grayson called a woman a whore, lies about republican plan saying it was everyone to die fast, and called the current system a holocast. Mind you no one is turned away from the ER. Pregnant woman even illegals are given FREE pregancy care and free delivery, as well as free care upto 6-8 weeks post partum if they have no medical. I am sure the jews who died to the gas chambers wished they had that kind of holocaust.

I do find it funny that Bush bashers never speak of things he did that was good. Like launching the program that has saved so many children from prostitution rings. Obama has gone fundraising more than any president in the history of the US. He has had more R&R in one year than many get. HOw much more relaxed does he need to be? His snipe on cleaning up the mess others left? Sorry those are his messes. He has not and will not take responsiblity for his own actions. It is much easier to pass the buck. Also look at the rating of the people pushing this crap. many are in the 30%. With luck people will vote those idiots out.
This concludes what the president has done in one year!
 
I'd like to know, realistically, if Obama said today we're pulling the troops out and bringing them home, much like he did 8 months ago; with all the red tape how long would it take.

Honestly, does anyone here know? I'm betting no. Not because you guys lack education on the subject, but if you're not in the mess you're never really going to know.

I'm not 100% on a lot of American policies, but I'm fairly sure the President doesn't have as much say as they used to.

E- also, another thought, do you guys think everything he has done and will do, agree to, sign off of is published and/or released for the publics knowledge? The process may have very well been started, who knows though, it may take another year in which they're aware. Things can't necessarily move faster because you're harassing the people who push paper... know what I mean.
 
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Rome wasn't built in a day ya know, neither will our country get fixed in less than a year. Nay-sayers left and right only serves to hinder progress. If you dont have a better idea, or the resources to put an idea into effect, STFU, GTFO, and let the man do what he was elected into office to do.
 
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