OH linkshell Disbanding?

vang said:
Bajarett Im so glad I read this thread now to catch up on the NH news as of late, stealing and spike flail attempting lol. Shut your fucking mouth the next time I say NH steals, I never want to hear you defend it again.

and I was there when we were down at Serket and Maseki was telling other LSes to not MPK the gilsellers who had serket claimed (because he's a little bitch like that) and OH was the ONLY one who did not try to mpk or steal and yet 2 hours later "OMG OH TRYZ 2 STEEL ZRKET!!11"

Fucking liars.

Thanks.
How about until you answer the questions I asked you months ago, you stop running your bitch mouth off Vang? They're right here so you don't have to go look:
http://www.qcdn.org/viewtopic.php?t=14239&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=75

As I said in my posts here, I didn't see Perfectangel anywhere in the pit, I just took Firestreak at his word that she was there. From what I saw, it was a full wipe and therefore not a steal.

As for the serket thing, please tell me how someone not wanting to perpetuate MPKing is a good thing? You probably can't, since you've admitted that you MPK for fun when you're bored.

Oh, and please learn that there's no E in my Name, it's BajarAtt.
 
Uzor said:
Caerloc, Vang was talking about stealing Serket, which NH accused of us doing (and accused us of MPK'ing the gil sellers). He wasn't talking about Fafnir.


Vang said:
Bajarett Im so glad I read this thread now to catch up on the NH news as of late, stealing and spike flail attempting lol. Shut your fucking mouth the next time I say NH steals, I never want to hear you defend it again.


Im pretty sure Serket dont spikeflail, so....
 
Didn't answer what? The same old line that is infamous on these boards from your members? I have called plenty of NH out on it before.


"It may have been an NH member but you can't blame NH for it"


Something to that effect, something like you're saying now, and something like I don't fucking buy it.

It's YOUR LS, YOUR members reflect YOU as a WHOLE. So stop looking for loopholes everytime one of YOUR members fucks up.
 
Caerloc said:
Uzor said:
Caerloc, Vang was talking about stealing Serket, which NH accused of us doing (and accused us of MPK'ing the gil sellers). He wasn't talking about Fafnir.


Vang said:
Bajarett Im so glad I read this thread now to catch up on the NH news as of late, stealing and spike flail attempting lol. Shut your fucking mouth the next time I say NH steals, I never want to hear you defend it again.


Im pretty sure Serket dont spikeflail, so....

Vang said:
and I was there when we were down at Serket and Maseki was telling other LSes to not MPK the gilsellers who had serket claimed (because he's a little bitch like that) and OH was the ONLY one who did not try to mpk or steal and yet 2 hours later "OMG OH TRYZ 2 STEEL ZRKET!!11"

exactly...
 
Caerloc said:
Uzor said:
Caerloc, Vang was talking about stealing Serket, which NH accused of us doing (and accused us of MPK'ing the gil sellers). He wasn't talking about Fafnir.


Vang said:
Bajarett Im so glad I read this thread now to catch up on the NH news as of late, stealing and spike flail attempting lol. Shut your fucking mouth the next time I say NH steals, I never want to hear you defend it again.


Im pretty sure Serket dont spikeflail, so....

Lol you just look really dumb right now bro, asking me if i only read what I want too.

The stealing was in regards to MG, the spike flail was in regards to Faf you dolt. Should I start speaking to NH members with flash cards and crayons?

Sheesh man wtf is the IQ prerequisite to become a member?



Don't reply, either one of you, you have nothing more to say and no ground to stand on. Seriously stfu, it's getting really old owning every NH member that steps up to the mic.
 
vang said:
Didn't answer what? The same old line that is infamous on these boards from your members? I have called plenty of NH out on it before.


"It may have been an NH member but you can't blame NH for it"


Something to that effect, something like you're saying now, and something like I don't fucking buy it.

It's YOUR LS, YOUR members reflect YOU as a WHOLE. So stop looking for loopholes everytime one of YOUR members fucks up.
Since you are obviously above clicking the link and just want to sound like a broken record, here's my post:

Bajaratt said:
Vang said:
Coh beat me to it since I have been playing for the day hoping I would get more posts from you and perfect before I shut you both up with this picture. What do you have to say about this Bajarett?

Oh and btw get the fuck outta here with that lame ass cop out that EVERYONE uses now "Oh another LS mate did it, not me blah blah"

As long as no one is punishing these people in your LS that do this stupid shit, then you (NH) APPROVE of it.

Goodnight, Exit stage right, thanks for playing.

Hypocrites...
Well, I've been playing all day as well, so I just saw this, so I might as well respond now. From what happened I'd have to say that I'm really disappointed that he did that. I don't know what you're expecting me to say, that what he did was perfectly fine? It wasn't, he shouldn't have done that. Your picture isn't "shutting me up" since I was asking a question, not claiming that NH had never done anything like that before.

What I heard about that incident, and this is all second hand, was that he claimed, then logged to give it back. There wasn't a mention of OH wiping and it certainly wasn't a condoned action by the LS. Cohibu's picture proves that just fine. It was also over a day later when I found out, so I didn't have any real information about the incident and forgot about it. Sorry if I dont' catalogue every little thing that happens in the linkshell, especially when something seems to have blown over.

Also, I'd like to know how the fuck I'M supposed to be accountable for someone else's actions when I'M NOT EVEN ONLINE. Yes, it was someone else, and I only found out about them doing it well after the fact. You don't know my schedule, so you not knowing that I'm online isn't that important, but you saying that I'm supporting him is 100% bullshit.

Since I have NO power in the linkshell(No pearlsack, no pull with Maseki, nothing). I can't really punish someone for anything, so I'd love to see how I'm approving their actions by not doing something that I can't possibly do. From what I was told, he was punished, but it wasn't prudent to ask how.

I don't know of any linkshell that has a zero-tolerance policy regarding members, so maybe you'll point those out to me. It'd be a pretty stupid policy to have, since there'd be plenty of strife over people leaving and virtually no loyalty.

All I asked was what Ezikiel was referring to when he said we had stolen something when I hadn't heard of anything, and now you're calling me a hypocrite. Does anyone other than me know what the word hypoctire means? Everyone loves to toss that word around, but very few(none I've seen, but there's probably at least one) seem to be using it correctly. I haven't done anything hypocritical that I'm aware of, so feel free to point those out, but make sure it's an actual hypocrisy first.
You say I'm automatically approving of everything everyone else does, and I prove that I'm not. If by "owning" me you mean completely ignoring this every time I post it, then you've succeeded. We don't need the vang seal of approval to

And for the record, There was no spike flail with OH at fafnir, they died becuase fafnir went hyper. Way to make shit up to make others sound bad vang. You're living on conjecture and second hand to harp on a LS, GG.
 
And for the record, There was no spike flail with OH at fafnir, they died becuase fafnir went hyper. Way to make shit up to make others sound bad vang. You're living on conjecture and second hand to harp on a LS, GG.

No there was no spike flail, and for that all I have to say is you are all very lucky. What there was, was an attempt at a spike flail. Odon positioning himself in a volitile position and spam Cure 3ing Prophecy. To prevent the spike flail from happening, Prophecy had to turn on BlockAid. This meant we had to switch healers who were outside the alliance in, and more importantly, this meant to make room we had to swap damage dealers out, because with blockaid up all our healers had to be in the alliance. Less damage dealers, the speed of the fight slow downed. Fafnir went psycho because time ran out. Would time have ran out had NH not attempted to force a spike flail on us? We'll never know.

What is important to note is... notice the lack of rumors that plagued NH about that? You know why that is? Because we didn't try to make a daytime drama soap about it.

What I find abhorable, is not only have we never been apologized too, but we get accused by YOU guys as MPKers, and on this very post. And instead of trying to work this out maturely, you try and weasel out of it.

Why has nobody said, "We are sorry, Elemmire is full of shit. She doesn't represent us at all. Shut the fuck up Elemmire."

And while she's the only one dumb enough to attach her name to the rumors, I know there are others in NH who say it, and I know who some of them are.

It is not even a point of argument anymore that Elemmire herself is a liar. Merging the Darkdominion Sleepga 2 incident in with the steal and take-back incident as if they were the same when they were on different days is apparent. Accusing us of MPK with no actual MPK incident that ever even occured. Yet while you bicker over the morallity of if it's wrong to steal back what was stolen, you don't even call your own member out on lies. Instead ya'll send me PMs and /tells in game admitting that she is a fucking liar and you're too afraid of upsetting her.
I don't have anything against Maseki personally, but I must admit I find some of the NH members fairly questionable, considering they seem to just ignore what he asks, which is to keep the drama down. I know for a fact he told Elemmire to shut up pages back and she completely ignored him. It has become apparent to me in these months that NH members(at least the older ones) have zero fear of being kicked from the shell, and that they do whatever they please. And members who don't like the way others act remain silent in hopes it will blow over and to not create bad press for NH.
 
No there was no spike flail, and for that all I have to say is you are all very lucky. What there was, was an attempt at a spike flail. Odon positioning himself in a volitile position and spam Cure 3ing Prophecy.

Bajarett just shut up already... Idiot.
 
vang said:
No there was no spike flail, and for that all I have to say is you are all very lucky. What there was, was an attempt at a spike flail. Odon positioning himself in a volitile position and spam Cure 3ing Prophecy.

Bajarett just shut up already... Idiot.
Same to you.
 
Firestreak said:
And for the record, There was no spike flail with OH at fafnir, they died becuase fafnir went hyper. Way to make shit up to make others sound bad vang. You're living on conjecture and second hand to harp on a LS, GG.

No there was no spike flail, and for that all I have to say is you are all very lucky. What there was, was an attempt at a spike flail. Odon positioning himself in a volitile position and spam Cure 3ing Prophecy. To prevent the spike flail from happening, Prophecy had to turn on BlockAid. This meant we had to switch healers who were outside the alliance in, and more importantly, this meant to make room we had to swap damage dealers out, because with blockaid up all our healers had to be in the alliance. Less damage dealers, the speed of the fight slow downed. Fafnir went psycho because time ran out. Would time have ran out had NH not attempted to force a spike flail on us? We'll never know.

What is important to note is... notice the lack of rumors that plagued NH about that? You know why that is? Because we didn't try to make a daytime drama soap about it.

What I find abhorable, is not only have we never been apologized too, but we get accused by YOU guys as MPKers, and on this very post. And instead of trying to work this out maturely, you try and weasel out of it.

Why has nobody said, "We are sorry, Elemmire is full of shit. She doesn't represent us at all. Shut the fuck up Elemmire."

And while she's the only one dumb enough to attach her name to the rumors, I know there are others in NH who say it, and I know who some of them are.

It is not even a point of argument anymore that Elemmire herself is a liar. Merging the Darkdominion Sleepga 2 incident in with the steal and take-back incident as if they were the same when they were on different days is apparent. Accusing us of MPK with no actual MPK incident that ever even occured. Yet while you bicker over the morallity of if it's wrong to steal back what was stolen, you don't even call your own member out on lies. Instead ya'll send me PMs and /tells in game admitting that she is a fucking liar and you're too afraid of upsetting her.
I don't have anything against Maseki personally, but I must admit I find some of the NH members fairly questionable, considering they seem to just ignore what he asks, which is to keep the drama down. I know for a fact he told Elemmire to shut up pages back and she completely ignored him. It has become apparent to me in these months that NH members(at least the older ones) have zero fear of being kicked from the shell, and that they do whatever they please. And members who don't like the way others act remain silent in hopes it will blow over and to not create bad press for NH.

alright.. I said I wouldn't post but you had to piss me the fuck off so here it is. I DID NOT MERGE THOSE TWO DAYS. Go look back in the posts dumbass :) I said they were different. Day you wiped and we took when everyone was down was the day of a maintanence. It was a few days after when DD Sleepga-ed and you guys died. That was the day we fully wiped and left it to you. The day we didn't fully wipe was when we got spiked flailed cause Crosis was in the wrong spot and took hate. About half the alliance was down but back up fast with reraise. Tanks were doing fine but we were weakened and then they went down. We started to cast sleep but it went unclaimed and Prophecy voked RIGHT AWAY and my sleep casting was interrupted. And as I said.. I said you guys ran Fafnir after us. I saw Speakerboxx and others running to our group. If odon actually did Cure III Prophecy than his bad for causing our deaths. Frankly.. I'm sick and tired of you coming in here and thinking you know everything and are completely right at all points in time. You weren't there when Prophecy, Drkstr, Algarius and whoever the other was (I thought it was Uzor.. not PA.. could be wrong.. I don't remember seeing PA during tha time). You claim PA has pictures but you have yet to post them. You come in here and claim all this shit all over the place and don't actually back it up. I asked that we have kaizen members or even JP people that were there in other alliances come and tell what happened for more evidence with people that were ACTUALLY THERE and I just get made fun of or some bullshit like that. Fact is, Fire, you WERE NOT THERE when Prophecy, DrkStr, Algarius, and whoever the RDM was wiped RIGHT after the maintanence. I, as well as atleast 15 other NH members, were there. And I did "shut up" as you like to put it but then you couldn't just SHUT UP yourself.. you had to come and post this post, now didn't you? Just cause Vang was posting in here? You claim so much shit but never truly back it up. I say let's get more people who were there to post as witnesses.. and I really don't like that whole "oh let's let it blow over" bullshit. It should atleast be discussed between the two LS and an understanding come. Letting it "blow over" just makes hostilities at later points in time even worse.

Seriously, Firestreak, instead of posting here again.. how about you take your own advice and shut the fuck up. I know you like to have the last word and all.. but you are seriously pissing me off. I haven't posted for several pages and yet you still seem to wish to continue an arguement. Watch.. you'll have to respond to this post as soon as you see it. You can't just let things go. I'll let this go if everyone else will, but I'm SURE you won't wanna let this go.. you will have to get the last word in.. you always do. Anyways.. I'm done here for good. I'm sick of Firestreak's bullshit with situations HE was confusing in the earlier pages and actually had no first hand experience to even post about such a thing (I.E. Prophecy, Drkstr, Alagarius, etc wiping as they were trying to stall Fafnir) and then going about claiming this and that without any thing to back it up. I would love to get this cleared up and get people who were actually there to post what happened but since it's been over a month I doubt many remember accurately enough (though I'd still want their posts so we can see where things are rather common amongst all of their posts). GG Firestreak. Now get your last word in like you know you want to.
 
Elemmire said:
Firestreak said:
And for the record, There was no spike flail with OH at fafnir, they died becuase fafnir went hyper. Way to make shit up to make others sound bad vang. You're living on conjecture and second hand to harp on a LS, GG.

No there was no spike flail, and for that all I have to say is you are all very lucky. What there was, was an attempt at a spike flail. Odon positioning himself in a volitile position and spam Cure 3ing Prophecy. To prevent the spike flail from happening, Prophecy had to turn on BlockAid. This meant we had to switch healers who were outside the alliance in, and more importantly, this meant to make room we had to swap damage dealers out, because with blockaid up all our healers had to be in the alliance. Less damage dealers, the speed of the fight slow downed. Fafnir went psycho because time ran out. Would time have ran out had NH not attempted to force a spike flail on us? We'll never know.

What is important to note is... notice the lack of rumors that plagued NH about that? You know why that is? Because we didn't try to make a daytime drama soap about it.

What I find abhorable, is not only have we never been apologized too, but we get accused by YOU guys as MPKers, and on this very post. And instead of trying to work this out maturely, you try and weasel out of it.

Why has nobody said, "We are sorry, Elemmire is full of shit. She doesn't represent us at all. Shut the fuck up Elemmire."

And while she's the only one dumb enough to attach her name to the rumors, I know there are others in NH who say it, and I know who some of them are.

It is not even a point of argument anymore that Elemmire herself is a liar. Merging the Darkdominion Sleepga 2 incident in with the steal and take-back incident as if they were the same when they were on different days is apparent. Accusing us of MPK with no actual MPK incident that ever even occured. Yet while you bicker over the morallity of if it's wrong to steal back what was stolen, you don't even call your own member out on lies. Instead ya'll send me PMs and /tells in game admitting that she is a fucking liar and you're too afraid of upsetting her.
I don't have anything against Maseki personally, but I must admit I find some of the NH members fairly questionable, considering they seem to just ignore what he asks, which is to keep the drama down. I know for a fact he told Elemmire to shut up pages back and she completely ignored him. It has become apparent to me in these months that NH members(at least the older ones) have zero fear of being kicked from the shell, and that they do whatever they please. And members who don't like the way others act remain silent in hopes it will blow over and to not create bad press for NH.

alright.. I said I wouldn't post but you had to piss me the fuck so here it is. I DID NOT MERGE THOSE TWO DAYS. Go look back in the posts dumbass :) I said they were different. Day you wiped and we took when everyone was down was the day of a maintanence. It was a few days after when DD Sleepga-ed and you guys died. That was the day we fully wiped and left it to you. The day we didn't fully wipe was when we got spiked flailed cause Crosis was in the wrong spot and took hate. About half the alliance was down but back up fast with reraise. Tanks were doing fine but we were weakened and then they went down. We started to cast sleep but it went unclaimed and Prophecy voked RIGHT AWAY and my sleep casting was interrupted. And as I said.. I said you guys ran Fafnir after us. I saw Speakerboxx and others running to our group. If odon actually did Cure III Prophecy than his bad for causing our deaths. Frankly.. I'm sick and tired of you coming in here and thinking you know everything and are completely right at all points in time. You weren't there when Prophecy, Drkstr, Algarius and whoever the other was (I thought it was Uzor.. not PA.. could be wrong.. I don't remember seeing PA during tha time). You claim PA has pictures but you have yet to post them. You come in here and claim all this shit all over the place and don't actually back it up. I asked that we have kaizen members or even JP people that were there in other alliances come and tell what happened for more evidence with people that were ACTUALLY THERE and I just get made fun of or some bullshit like that. Fact is, Fire, you WERE NOT THERE when Prophecy, DrkStr, Algarius, and whoever the RDM was wiped RIGHT after the maintanence. I, as well as atleast 15 other NH members, were there. And I did "shut up" as you like to put it but then you couldn't just SHUT UP yourself.. you had to come and post this post, now didn't you? Just cause Vang was posting in here? You claim so much shit but never truly back it up. I say let's get more people who were there to post as witnesses.. and I really don't like that whole "oh let's let it blow over" bullshit. It should atleast be discussed between the two LS and an understanding come. Letting it "blow over" just makes hostilities at later points in time even worse. Seriously, Firestreak, instead of posting here again.. how about you take your own advice and shut the fuck up. I know you like to have the last word and all.. but you are seriously pissing me off. I haven't posted for several pages and yet you still seem to wish to continue an arguement. Watch.. you'll have to respond to this post as soon as you see it. You can't just let things go. I'll let this go if everyone else will, but I'm SURE you won't wanna let this go.. you will have to get the last word in.. you always do. Anyways.. I'm done here for good. I'm sick of Firestreak's bullshit with situations HE was confusing in the earlier pages and actually had no first hand experience to even post about such a thing (I.E. Prophecy, Drkstr, Alagarius, etc wiping as they were trying to stall Fafnir) and then going about claiming this and that without any thing to back it up. I would love to get this cleared up and get people who were actually there to post what happened but since it's been over a month I doubt many remember accurately enough (though I'd still want their posts so we can see where things are rather common amongst all of their posts). GG Firestreak. Now get your last word in like you know you want to.

Space Bar, Enter Key, thwy work ^^
 
they are both just really entertaining to read you guys, seriously, thank you for this thread and killing some time before i go eat.

you kids are so cute :)
 
Firestreak said:
First off, I'll say that Ele HAS been ignored, however I read this bullshit through Blackmagik's quote.

Now I don't know what the hell you THINK you typed, but this is what you typed.

wrong again..Prophecy, Drkstar, Algarius, and PerfectAngel had Fafnir.. then wiped.. then we took it. Then a spike flail happened cause a former BLM had hate (note: he left on his own he didn't get kicked like Prophecy kicked DD for making one mistake even though DD wasn't really there it was his brother cause Prophecy FORCED him to go, according to DD.. please see earlier pages for DD's comment on it) and was too far back. 9 of us or so were killed off. People reraised and we still had claim and begin trying to recover. PLDs went down, I was casting Sleep II On it at the time as were others... and suddenly it goes unclaimed and Prophecy provoked it. That's stealing, jackass. Then when you guys wiped again to it Speakerboxx or one of your members ran Fafnir over to the NH group which was waiting to try again, thus, causing us to be killed off without a chance to defend ourselves. Good job, jackasses!

This is not 2 different Fafnirs you are speaking of. Nor is this some maintenence thing. And to be honest the weren't even the same days on the first place. So you can stop adding in lies to try to defend your lies. This doesn't have shit to do with Vang's comments, although what he said about the serket camp was to the best of my knowledge factual. This is simply about accountability. You want to go off off linkshells and say your crap endlessly. I really do hope Maseki kicks you one day. You do not have the mentality to be in endgame because you treat it as if we were all still in the Dunes.

As for Perfectangel, she will back to story that she was alive. I have not talked with her since I asked about the screenshots. Although I am quite curious what your reaction would be if I could get my hands on them. Would you promise to delete yourself from QCDN and get the fuck out of endgame where you so obviously don't belong?

wow.. ok. I really will admit that was stupid of me. I tend to not read over what I post when I type long responses (I should) and I tend to think ahead of myself as I type things up (makes it very hard to write good papers for class when I do that). So I can see where you thought I as mixing two days. No.. we are obviously both in agreement that we saw the maintenance day and the day DD did sleepga II as two different days. I appologize now that my post confused you. Someone can Quote this so he can see it :P

Anyways.. I find it funny you like to point out things when you were not there. The days I wasn't there I don't give a crap about. I was there the day that Prophecy, Drkstr, Algarius, and which ever RDM it was died when trying to stall Fafnir and we got and the day that DD sleepga-ed the flies and caused you guys to wipe. I still don't believe Odon Cure IIIed anyone as you seem to be the only one claiming that fact and no one else has supported you on it (I appologize again if I missed this). I'm sure Odon could clear this up a bit more too but you'd prolly disregard any of what he says and claim he's lying. I remember watching Speakerboxx and others run toward our alliance and Fafnir then looking at us and following and then proceeding to kill us off. During the day DD Sleepga IIed flies + fafnir I remember us claiming it after most of (if not all) OH died. I don't remember seeing anyone up, then again..there was a lot of lag and I have the character filters on.

I also find it funny that I was right. I posted and you had to post again. I only made this post really to appologize and hopefully clear up what I saw. I'm done with this now. You can post as much as you want. I know that you don't have any evidence to back up your claims short of other OH members coming to say the same shit you do so that they can try and save face. That's why I wanted people from outside OH and NH to post what happened cause then atleast they might have a bit less biased a view on things. See ya later, Fire.

Edit: oh ya.. just like to point out.. if Odon so did cure III prophecy.. why did Fafnir go for Quieren first and kill him? Shouldn't it have gone for Odon if he had hate? Ya.. kthxbai
 
Elemmire said:
You can post as much as you want. I know that you don't have any evidence to back up your claims short of other OH members coming to say the same shit you do so that they can try and save face. That's why I wanted people from outside OH and NH to post what happened cause then atleast they might have a bit less biased a view on things. See ya later, Fire.

odon.JPG
 
That post did 2 things btw:

1) fire was wrong about odon trying to flail fafnir (I believe odon was just trying to help, and not trying anything evil)

2) He did cure, and therefore did have hate, and therefore, eventually after we wiped, he and NH itself would be targets.

We never talked shit about our "theories" about odon trying to flail us, but you loved to talk all the time about how we mpk'd you.

Because you know when we're gonna wipe, the first thing on our minds is how to somehow take down NH with us. :roll: People started running once 80% of the allaince were dead, it's a natrual reaction, that's why it may have seemed we ran fafnir towards you, and odon cured us, giving him a spot on the hate list, which is why fafnir would like NH as a target. We never tried to mpk NH, nor had any intention of doing so. You brought it upon yourselves and tried to take blame onto us when all we did was get pwnt by an hnm that you guys had some hate on.

I remember some people from other ls's dying too, I never heard of any of them accusing us of mpk.
 
Daveman said:
That post did 2 things btw:

1) fire was wrong about odon trying to flail fafnir (I believe odon was just trying to help, and not trying anything evil)

2) He did cure, and therefore did have hate, and therefore, eventually after we wiped, he and NH itself would be targets.

We never talked shit about our "theories" about odon trying to flail us, but you loved to talk all the time about how we mpk'd you.

Because you know when we're gonna wipe, the first thing on our minds is how to somehow take down NH with us. :roll: People started running once 80% of the allaince were dead, it's a natrual reaction, that's why it may have seemed we ran fafnir towards you, and odon cured us, giving him a spot on the hate list, which is why fafnir would like NH as a target. We never tried to mpk NH, nor had any intention of doing so. You brought it upon yourselves and tried to take blame onto us when all we did was get pwnt by an hnm that you guys had some hate on.

I remember some people from other ls's dying too, I never heard of any of them accusing us of mpk.

I agree with this point here actually, but I want to put somthing on the table as just somthing to think about.

Ele generalized OH which was I think even she realizes was wrong to do, but it was mentioned eariler in the thread that someone might have taken it upon themselves to attempt this(I'm just saying maybe, though I was there I really didn't see what was happening), I think it was said that Speakerboxx was the one that apparently moved fafnir on top of NH. Being that from what I've heard from this thread he obviously did some bad things to the LS and potentially was a factor in the temporary break. From hearing this I personally wouldn't put it past him to try somthing like this, I don't know if this is true, but it could be and could easily clear up all of this.
 
That's pure speculation, people scatter when things goes bad, it's a fact we've all probably ran ourselves at some point in this game. No one ever said in ls chat "I'm gonna mpk NH" or "I mpk'd them just now" or anything that would even hint to purposeful training to NH. It's still possible that it was on purpose, but I think it's highly unlikely.

"Inocent until proven guilty", I think that's an excellent approach to problems, unfortunatly, alot of people like to reverse the wording a bit. You wanna prove someone trained to NH under their own accord, then go ahead, but you're gonna need some harder evidence and reason than "I saw him run towards us".
 
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